Lordfoul

December 11th, 2012 at 6:24 AM ^

Big Ten Referee said...

They were on probation for inappropriate benefits a player received in the 90's. scUM was also on probation recently; Do you think they are dirty, too?

 

"Not necessarily, but I wouldn't discount it."

How Beilein landed guys like Burke, Morris, McGary, Robinson, Hardaway, etc with that system and where that program has been recently is absolutely beyond me."

- I wonder how Stauskas would feel about being "etc"?  I suspect he will be the biggest Sparty killer on the team.

CRex

December 11th, 2012 at 9:50 AM ^

How Beilein landed guys like that...

Perhaps by having a shitload of success at WVU and taking solid steps to rebuild the program here.  I'm fine with going that guy's logic though.  It just means everytime MSU Football gets a 5*, we can it as firm proof of improper benefits, considering where that program has been recently.  

MGlobules

December 11th, 2012 at 10:30 AM ^

"The resurgence of scUM basketball has been the most depressing sports development in my lifetime, hands down. Not even a close second (and this is coming from a Mets and Bills fan)."

Lionsfan

December 12th, 2012 at 9:11 AM ^

My favorite quote, a UM fan responds to a guy talking logic with this:

I know most probably won't want to hear my input, but this post is correct. None of Michigan's players were highly recruited, save McGary. Burke, Hardaway, Stauskus, and Glenn Robinson were all 3* at some point. Do I think Beilein is dirty? No, he's built up a program that was in the toilet with guys like Stu Douglass and Zack Novak - hardworking, but not uber talented players. He won with them and winning attracts recruits. As someone else mentioned, it's a "fun" offensive system to watch as well. When recruits see a bunch of threes going up, they take notice. I have the utmost respect for Izzo and MSU's program. I admittedly grew up an MSU basketball fan given Michigan's mediocrity. Here's to building up the rivalry in both basketball and football, because I believe both schools' programs are on the uprise.

And then the next post is a Spartan replying to him with:

Go to hell

bronxblue

December 12th, 2012 at 1:31 PM ^

It also makes me laugh because this person's life must have been incredibly short.  I mean, the basketball team made the final four in 91 and 92, and was a decent tourney team as late as 1998.  Sure they were down for about a decade, but even then the team fluctuated between mediocre and bad.  So yeah, pretty small window to say it was "the worst evar".

MGlobules

December 11th, 2012 at 10:30 AM ^

"The resurgence of scUM basketball has been the most depressing sports development in my lifetime, hands down. Not even a close second (and this is coming from a Mets and Bills fan)."

JewofM

December 11th, 2012 at 10:42 AM ^

they are totally delusional. According to RCMB, possibly only Burke is good enough to start for MSU. What a load of garbage. I also am sick of hearing that Michigan has no depth. Has anyone actually been watching the games this year? We have a 10-11 person rotation so far this year: Burke, Stauskas, Hardaway, GRIII, Morgan, McGary, Horford, Albrecht, Levert, Vogrich and Bielfeldt (when healthy). Not saying this rotation will not be tightened up by the time Big Ten games start, but that is pretty solid depth in my book.

Hardware Sushi

December 11th, 2012 at 1:57 PM ^

Something to keep in mind - I agree about our starters playing more minutes than they should given some of our opponents this season, but I have to keep reminding myself that we're starting 3ish freshman (playing 5!) and every minute one of these freshman starters get in non-conference is a huge learning experience for Big Ten season.

Wolverine Devotee

December 11th, 2012 at 11:28 AM ^

Who cares what those idiots think.

Michigan has beaten them 3 out of the last 4, is 9-0 and is ranked #3. state struggled with loyola this past weekend. 

Congrats. 

bronxblue

December 12th, 2012 at 3:19 PM ^

While I have always respected Izzo for running a good enough program at MSU, I think MSU fans are starting to see the ceiling for this team under him.  He doesn't recruit the type of top-notch talent you need to challenge the best teams for titles.  Even those years they made the Final Four, at no point did I think of them in the same class as the Duke's, UNC's, Kentucky's, UConn's, etc. that they played against.  They have a defense-heavy, grind-it-out style that works against teams with less talent, but if a squad is able to spread them out and can play much more one-on-one, they tend to lose.  That 2000 championship is great and you can't take that away from them, but Beilen's team keeps getting better and seems to have the types of athletes/players you need to beat the best squads in the country; MSU seems to have settled into a "pretty good" plateau.

BTW:  Other fun little note - someone said UM players don't play defense or rebound because that isn't the focus of the players.  Which is kind of funny, since UM is all of 1 RB per game worse than MSU, and scoring are about the same when you factor in pace.  So yeah, not the most insightful analysis.