Opponent Stock Report (and Self Analysis) - Week 8

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This is my weekly feature to look back at summer previews, get egg on my face, look over what Michigan did, and then project the rest of the year as we get more real time data.  Last week's taking stock report can be found here.

Prelude:  I did season previews on most UM opponents - I skipped UNLV, Indiana and Rutgers out of boredom, and OSU out of fear.  The rest are below

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Dear readers - the deeper we go into the season the more off my summer views will become as naturally teams will evolve from what we thought they would be and injuries happen.

This summer I predicted there would be a bye week this week. 

I was correct. 100/100.

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A Look at Michigan

The planned destruction of Minnesota Gopher football continues on pace.  I cannot divuldge any other details.  Harbaugh was so confident of it he went to a HS football game.

DEGREE OF DIFFICULTY (DOD!) RANKINGS

Basing games on WHEN they are played and WHERE this was my general view on degree of difficulty for each opponent coming into the year and adjusted weekly,    Again this is not how good the team is in a vacuum but how they match up vs UM.

  Week 8 Week 7 Week 6 Week 5
1 OSU OSU OSU OSU
2 @Utah @Utah @Utah @Utah
3 MSU MSU MSU MSU
4 BYU BYU Northwestern Northwestern
5 @PSU @PSU BYU BYU
6 @Indiana Northwestern @PSU @PSU
7 Northwestern @Indiana @Minn @Minn
8 @Minn @Minn @Indiana @Indiana
9 @Maryland @Maryland @Maryland @Maryland
10 Rutgers Rutgers Rutgers Rutgers
11 Oregon State Oregon State Oregon State Oregon State
12 UNLV UNLV UNLV UNLV
         
  Week 4 Week 2 Week 1 Preseason
1 OSU OSU OSU OSU
2 @Utah MSU MSU MSU
3 MSU @Minn @Utah @PSU
4 @Minn @Utah @Minn @Utah
5 BYU BYU BYU BYU
6 Northwestern @PSU @PSU @Minn
7 @PSU Northwestern Northwestern Northwestern
8 @Indiana Rutgers @Maryland @Maryland
9 @Maryland @Maryland Rutgers Rutgers
10 Rutgers @Indiana @Indiana @Indiana
11 Oregon State Oregon State Oregon State Oregon State
12 UNLV UNLV UNLV UNLV

 

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Stock Up

  • Indiana (+1) -  The MSU game was deceiving as Indiana did Indiana things the last 6 minutes.  But going on the road vs a top 10 team (even if you believe they are only top 20 worthy) after hosting OSU and showing well there means this team has some danger to it.  Especially as they don't rely on the run like most Big 10 offenses so that will cause some issues.  I see Indiana scoring in the 20s vs UM as Sudfeld is the real deal and they have some nice WRs.  If Howard is healthy at RB (he looked 70% vs MSU and still did better than any UM RB could) in a few weeks he also poses danger although I expect UM to stymie him most of the day.  But he is the type of RB that on any 3 carries in a game could go off for 50 - hence the danger.  Thankfully Indiana's D is its normally crap self although they do seem to have a good player or two on the DL.  Being a road game and having a competent QB and good RB - they pose more matchups problems then most teams.

 

 

 

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Stock Down

  • Northwestern (-1) - Nebraska is not a good team.  This was not a good game - the parts of it I could stomach to watch.  Northwestern's QB had a few big runs, and NWs D had a big INT return for a score.  Somehow that Northwestern offense held the ball for the last 4+ minutes as Nebraska could not stop them to get the ball back.  Translation - Nebraska's D sucks.  Connor Cook is going to make mincemeat of that unit.  Justin Jackson was shut down for the 3rd week in a row and I wonder now if he is hurt or last year got to his head.  He is not the same player of a year ago.  The leading rusher was the QB Thorson (9 carries 126 yds) and he was his normal mediocre self in the air (13 of 28).  NW is still living off their Stanford win in the advanced stats and the Duke win is looking decent.  With their schedule they probably still have a path to 8+ wins but its front loaded in terms of quality wins.

 

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Stock Flat

  • OSU - Unfortunately finally Urban Meyer came to the conclusion that a lot of us had held for many months - JT Barrett is more scary than Cardale Jones as the QB of THE Ohio State.   Barrett was sickingly efficient (14/18, 233 yds, 3 TD, 0 INT) thru the air ... and scary again on the ground with his second straight 100+ yd game.  Elliott did Elliott things and the variance between OSU and UM's offenses with Barrett at the helm is disconcerting.  Yes it was only Rutgers but OSU is doing OSU things under Urban and that is getting better as the season moves along.  OSU's defense also continues to improve shutting down a relatively good QB in Chris Laviano (10/20, 117 yds) and eradicating Rutger's 1 NFL talent on offense in Leonte Carroo.  I think OSU's D is the unsung hero here as it has generally been grading out very well and when I look at mock drafts for NFL they have a multitude of early round NFL players all over it.  This version of OSU is scary and I'm not sure where the "we match up great with OSU" stuff I am reading on the board the past few weeks is coming from, but hey "rivalry game" "1969" and stuff like that.
  • Utah - I've long held Utah is not a top 5 team but more like 15-20 but until they lose you have to respect them and give them the top 5 ranking.  They actually have done better than I though the past few weeks although that Cal game was very losable.  But they found a way each week until this week.  Utah this year reminds me of some of the early Dantonio teams in terms a lot of 3 star talent that comes together to be a better team than the individual pieces would show.  Then you look at USC's roster of players and you see Michigan / Penn State of the past 5-7 years.  So this was a game that made sense to lose - talented team, removed of a locker room issue with their coach and with nothing to lose playing an overachieving team that is not super explosive (when not playing Oregon) and simply doesn't have the same level of athletes up and down the roster.   Travis Wilson had a decent game outside of the 4 INTs (24/36) but protecting the ball is job #1 so saying he had a decent game except for the 4 times he handed the ball to USC is not an accurate statement I suppose.  Kesler played error free ball for USC and JuJu Smith (a guy Hoke was after in the same class as Peppers) did cool stuff that playmakers do.  I think both Juju and Adoree Jackson have now been converted to offensive players?  They came out of HS as secondary players (just imagine the secondary of Juju, Adoree, Peppers, Lewis).  Anyhow - sigh.  Playmakers.  As for Utah, still has a great chance for a 2-3 loss season max.
  • MSU  - Speaking of playmakers.  Connor MF Cook.  Damn.  That dude made himself some serious cash the last 3 weeks.  He has no run game for defenses to really respect and yet is single handidly winning games (well except for *THAT*) nowadays.  But even considering *THAT* MSU had no offense vs Michigan aside from Cook.  Same vs Indiana. Same vs Rutgers.  30/52 for 398, 4 TDs and most impressive no INTs... after throwing 52 times.  Watching the game I don't even recall a near miss of an INT that is Cook's usual thing.  Some of the throws were just remarkable at the college level.   Frankly I have no idea why MSU did not do that strategy vs UM ...they seem to love getting themselves in 3rd and long and then unleashing Cook on 3rd down.  Thankfully they played Debord style vs UM.  Also frustrating watch was Indiana getting more pressure on Cook then UM did.  But it didn't matter.  This game they saw it was going to be a shootout as Indiana could actually exploit their young secondary (something UM was totally incapable of) so they let Cook go off all game.  I dont give a damn how he projects in the NFL; it doesn't mean a thing in college level terms which is what we are dealing with.  He is straight dealing right now and for all those who say MSU has zero chance vs OSU ... IMO you fail to comprehend what an equalizer a QB playing at this level can be.  Until a stake is put through zombie MSU's heart, Dantonio runs out of souls to sell (torrential monsoon rain on Indiana's 3rd drive, promptly ending as MSU took over post punt) and/or Cook is out with injury they have a chance in any game if he is playing at this level. 
  • BYU -  BYU beat Wagner 70-6.  I was unaware Wagner played football.  So was Wagner.  To put this in perspective Wagner lost 43-14 the prior week to THE St Francis Red Flash.  Yes seriously.
  • PSU - Reading thru all the PSU-Maryland game recaps and it sounded like a typical Brady Hoke game with all the associated follies; turnovers, penalties, goofy decisions.  I was not a big fan of James Franklin and as each week passes I feel ever more content he is basically Brady Hoke with a better defensive coordinator than Mattison was.  Maryland (!) was the team that finally stymied freshman RB phenom Barkley (20 carries for 65 yds).  They had to turn to Hackenberg who actually had a game for himself.  Chris Godwin averaged (!!) 33.8 per reception on 4 catches.  The longest was 40 so this was not one huge catch skewing his stats.  PSU's D - like UM's for decades - is pretty good vs conventional offenses but really sucks vs dual threats.  They had held OSU to 21 thru 3 last week before Barrett was inserted at QB and then the wheels fell off.  This week a crappy Perry Hills ran all over the defense.  No seriously - he ran 26x for 124 yds.  So PSU's D is sort of Jeckyl and Hyde - against conventional offenses it is troubling; vs dual threat QBs its Michigan of (pick any year from 1992 to 2014).   Unfortunately we have a conventional offense with a mediocre QB and an average OL which is going to face multiple players of McDowell, Calhoun level.  I continue to forecast #M00P in this game as both defenses stymie the offenses.  I will have to research how bad or good PSU's special teams are because it's going to be difficult to count on one as bad as MSU's to give UM's offense all the breaks they received vs MSU.
  • Minn - Minnesota had a bye so did not offer me a chance to drop them in the DOD rankings.  Minn is a poor man's Northwestern.
  • Maryland  - Maryland gave PSU a game I suppose but Maryland's offense is very much UM's offense with Rich Rod in terms of its all abou the QB.  Caleb Rowe was not a runner, Perry Hills is.  So hard to compare apples to oranges.  Maryland is 2-5 and 0-3 in the conf and still probably better than the crap teams below them in the ranks.
  • Rutgers  - Rutgers poses some sort of threat I guess but I've had them this low all year because this is a home game, Rutgers has 1 NFL level offensive player and a joke for a defense.  All these things OSU exploited.  If UM lets Rutgers pass game go off on them, then it shows some fraudulent cracks IMO as we have played so few decent passing QBs. Rutgers shold not get more than 10-13 in this game if OSU could shut them down completely in Jersey and Rutgers D is poor enough UM should easily get into the 20s/30s.
  • Oregon State - OSU lost to a garbage Colorado team and program.  At home.  Colorado had a 14 game losing streak in the Pac 12 before this game.  (last win 2013).  They had a 12 road game losing streak in conference (last win 2012)  Thanks Beavers.  Remember when you got all excited a hung over Stanford team let OSU stick around for 30 minutes before deciding to show up a month ago?  That was cool.  Seth Collins was replaced at starter by Nick Mitchel who promptly went 9/24 with an INT.  The 2 rotated all game.  Which is like Threet vs Sheridan.
  • UNLV - UNLV had a bye thus did not have a chance to fall to 13th.  They play Boise State next week which could beat them into the year 2016.

 

Overall

Rabble rabble rabble Rudock.  Rabble rabble rabble playmakers.  Rabble rabble rabble.

 

Next Week

Pain.  But depending on how early we get a big lead and shut down the offense, maybe less pain than some assume.  But pain.

Comments

funkywolve

October 26th, 2015 at 1:48 PM ^

While the chances of making the college football playoffs were gone, USC went into the Utah game knowing they had to beat Utah to have any chance at playing in the Pac12 title game.  Entering the game, Utah was 3-0 in league play and USC was 1-2.  A loss to Utah would have almost certainly meant the Pac12 South title was out of reach.  A win though and they'd be right back in the thick of the race.  

As it stands they are in the thick of the Pac-12 South race.

bronxblue

October 26th, 2015 at 2:27 PM ^

Good stuff, as usual.  We'll never agree about MSU and Cook, but I respect your takes even if I don't find them all that persuasive (I noted elsewhere that Cook averaged fewer ypa and completion % against IU than is IU's averages coming into the game, and only about 50 yards less per game overall).

USC played well against Utah but Wilson was a large reason why they lost IME.  He threw a pick-6, had two more possible scoring-drive-killing picks, and generally looked out of sorts.  Utah probably wasn't the #3 team in the country, but I'm not sure this is as much USC being back and Utah finally crapping the bed in a game where the other team (cough Cal cough) didn't do them one better.

Franklin has always been a stuffed suit with little else to back it up; all the talk about him winning at Vandy was basically him beating the terrible OOC teams they scheduled and nothing.  He's a competent recruiter, but you are giving him too much credit as Brady Hoke with a better DC.  Hoke took over a meh team and, even for a couple of years, kept them competent.  Franklin took over a good program under O'Brien and they've regressed badly, especially on offense.  And he's had playmakers there.

alum96

October 26th, 2015 at 3:44 PM ^

I dont think USC is "back"; they are just a terrificly talented team at the individual athlete level and when they have a good day they can be scary.  They are also coming back from sanctions and still young and obviously don't have direction at the top.  These athletes need coaching but damn some of the plays they do with the speed and skill they have and you just say "we need those."

Disagree about Hoke vs Franklin.  Hoke was handed a senior laden team and a program without any sanctions. Within 18 months they began taking on all of hoke's characteristics.  

Franklin was/is dealing with the heart of the sanctions at PSU so has scholarship reductions ala USC.  So he at least has some excuse thhat Hoke didn't.  Other than bad OL retention by rich rod.  Meanwhile Hoke and position coaches essentially were the equivalanet of 8 scholarship reductions. I'd toss them both into a bucket and whomever falls out if I handed them the key to say Boston College - I bet their W/L would be nearly identical 5 years hence.

When I did coaching analysis in diaries last winter I noticed Vandy won with D not O.  Franklin is an O guy.  Which is why I have had doubts all the way - his side of the ball never does squat while his DC's side of the ball is always the good to great side at Vandy and PSU. Seeing him talked up for USC right now is hilarious and I have to assume that is his agent's work. 

 

bronxblue

October 26th, 2015 at 4:04 PM ^

Yeah, I didn't mean to come across as saying you thought USc was back in terms of national accliam, only that the national narrative around them was that they were back to being a dominant program.  They have always had great athletes and with the right coach they could be a juggernaut until the next time they flame out due to the inevitable LA temptations.

Hoke was given a senior defense that first year but he also seemed able to coach at least one part of the team pretty well; his defensive lines have always been competent aong with the rest of the defense.  I look at Franklin and I see a guy who never really made any part of his team better; his offenses have been terrible at PSU for the most part despite having some competent pieces.  And while the offensive line has been a problem, that doesn't totally excuse how bad they've looked.  The difference is I could see Hoke be a very good DC for the right team; Franklin I guess could be an OC but it's not like any of his teams have ever looked that great.  

I agree about the USC buzz; that is 100% his agent seeing the trend at PSU and trying to get out while his client still has some name cache.  If he gets hired at USC, I'm not sure you could see the stadium behind that smug cloud he'd bring to LA.

Michigan4Life

October 27th, 2015 at 12:32 AM ^

when it comes to how good of a QB is. There is a reason why NFL scouts are high on Connor Cook (They have him at top 10-15 overall). Connor Cook showed good arm strength, very good accuracy when he makes bucket throws on a consistent basis, and can move a little bit.  Cook is a very good anticipation thrower and throws WRs open.  He goes through the progression and get there immediately which is a skill set that is rarely developed for most QBs because spread offense are basically one/two read offense.

Throw in the fact that Cook is doing it with a mediocre defense(at best), below average running game and leaky (and injuries plagued) OL, you have a case for Cook for being one fo the best QB in the country. MSU would not be 7-0 without him at QB.

Realus

October 26th, 2015 at 2:55 PM ^

They may be the 5th hardest game for UM but only because it's an away game at night.  PSU Dline might be tough but I think we will win by at least two TDs.  Can't wait for the game against Minn to right the ship.  I am looking for a 25 to 35 point win, holding them to under 10.

alum96

October 26th, 2015 at 3:49 PM ^

Not sure how UM moves on PSU well at all.  They have 3 incredible dlineman.  Nassib is possibly outplaying Bosa rigth now.  Zettel is McDowell level but older.  The other DT will probaly be a 3rd rounder.  They also wont be playing 2 true freshman at safety.   We had 220 yds on offense vs a defense that gave up 300 to Purdue and someting like 350 to rutgers.  PSU is about the same on D as MSU with MSU's injuries accounted for.  We have issues passing more than 10 yds down the field.  We hahve issues running against stout DLs.  So how do we attack PSU?  Unless Gentry is ready to play.

Utah and MSU - the 2 legit D we ave faced stonewalled us mostly.  The only 2 teams with multiple serious DL on them.  NW as been proven to be a fraud the past 3 weeks.  So I am not sure how anyone makes the bridge we are going to be marching up and down the field on PSU.  They have 4 star hs kids all over their D and multiple NFL guys.

NuclearLion

October 26th, 2015 at 3:08 PM ^

penn state's punting is absolutely atrocious. the kickoff coverage is suspect. the return games (both kicking and punting) are not terrible, but haven't been very inspiring. and the placekicker is 5' 11" and weighs 270 (and really, what's more important than that?).

despite the lackluster production, we've done what we need to do to win games. it's fugly to watch, but W/L are the most important stats. hack's completion percentage is awful, but the turnovers are way down, and when he hits downfield we've actually been scoring touchdowns (10 TDs in the last 5 weeks...not bad by our current standards lol/cries into beer). maryland sold out to stop the run, and we were still able to score 31.

defense is not nearly as good as a unit this year...losing wartman-white in the season opener was a big loss to the LBs. our other experienced guy (brandon bell) has been dinged up all year too. young guys are talented, but making young-guy mistakes (hence the issues with mobile QBs..they let themselves get sucked in and can't make up for it).

i think you guys are going to break us into tiny little pieces. but i guess that's why they play the game.

alum96

October 26th, 2015 at 3:54 PM ^

How are your DBs?

Oh wait - rudock.  Moot point.

Well obviously you lost the conferences most (?) talented LB last year in hull so expected drop off there. 

I just think football is about matchups. We dont have the dual QB to throw at you.  Hell we dont have the pro style QB who can throw 15 yd completions to throw at you.  So I could see Indiana scoring a lot in 2 weeks since they will just play away from your DL and attack the back 7.

How UM attacks a back 7 with a fierce pash rush and inability to run against stout DLs - that is the question with our current QB.  Hopefully Drake Johnson is getting healed these past 2 weeks because we need the best out of him to try some runs on the edge that failed so bad vs MSU.

But that is good info on special teams.  We need another huge game out of ours.

 

NuclearLion

October 26th, 2015 at 4:13 PM ^

disappointed we missed out on him (not surprised though)...glad to see the kid have some success though.

it could be interesting, but we'll see. fortunately for us, we have a bye week ahead of time, so we should be relatively rested/healed up by the time we see you guys. plus, the white out factor...somewhat over-rated, but hey, even if it's only worth a couple points, i'll take it.

the secondary has played overall fairly decently i think. it goes back to youth and injury though. lucas hasn't really made too many splash plays this year, grant haley has been dinged up and marcus allen is pretty undisciplined. we have a freshman corner named john reid who's been getting better throughout the season, but i wouldn't call him a stud or anything yet. the pass rush has been a big help here for these guys, but like the LBs they tend to be somewhat undisciplined in run support and over-pursue. also, allen just fucking throws shoulders instead of wrapping up, so he misses more than his fair share of tackles.

it's an interesting matchup to see harbaugh vs. shoop...i follow UM as my second team (got my phd there) and i've been really impressed so far. pretty much what i expected to happen...hoke recruited well (excepting the QB situation) so harbz had plenty to work with, especially in the trenches. i have serious coach envy lol.

 your defense is going to destroy our offense though, no doubt. we're improved from last year, but not THAT much lol. still a huge liability against a quality opponent.

alum96

October 27th, 2015 at 2:24 PM ^

If Durkin leaves for a HC job post 16 (and with UM 16 defense is everyone stays it should be stellar again) and Franklin is fired post 16, I want Shoop here very bad.  He is a Yale guy so UM works well for him.  Knows the conf, would be a good pipeline guy to PA, etc.

Yep I agree both defenses wil stymie each other - a bit worried about Barkley and Hack is good for 2-3 very good games a year so we'll see.  Unlike guys like Thorson or Jake who have little ceiling he has a ceiling - he just rarely visits it but on any given night his upside is far higher than Jake's.

NittanyFan

October 26th, 2015 at 5:20 PM ^

I predict this is how the game will go:

Michigan wins coin toss, elects to defer.  Kicks off, touchback.

Penn State starts possession at own 25 yard line, gains 15 yards, punts, 20 yards net.

Michigan starts possession at own 40 yard line, gains 15 yards, punts, 40 yards net.

Penn State starts possession at own 5 yard line, gains 10 yards, punts, 20 yards net.

Michigan starts possession at PSU 35 yard line, gains 10 yards, kicks 42 yard field goal.

Michigan 3 Penn State 0.

Michigan kicks off, touchback.

Penn State starts possession at own 25 yard line, gains 15 yards, punts, 20 yards net.

Michigan starts possession at own 40 yard line, gains 15 yards, punts, 40 yards net.

Penn State starts possession at own 5 yard line, gains 10 yards, punts, 20 yards net.

Michigan starts possession at PSU 35 yard line, gains 10 yards, kicks 42 yard field goal.

Michigan 6 Penn State 0.

Michigan kicks off, touchback.

Penn State starts possession at own 25 yard line, gains 15 yards, punts, 20 yards net.

Michigan starts possession at own 40 yard line, gains 15 yards, punts, 40 yards net.

Penn State starts possession at own 5 yard line, gains 10 yards, punts, 20 yards net.

Michigan starts possession at PSU 35 yard line, gains 10 yards, kicks 42 yard field goal.

Michigan 9 Penn State 0.

Et cetera.  Final score, Michigan 24 Penn State 0.

991GT3

October 26th, 2015 at 6:40 PM ^

and entertaining. Though I agree with much of what you wrote, I believe you are under estimating Minnesota. The are very well coached AND their style of football is identical to Michigan's. Where they differ is the talent level is better with MIchigan. 

Being familiar with the oppostion style of play evens out the playing field. Factor in they are playing at home, this could be a trap game for Michigan. There will be no pain.

Pelini's Cat

October 26th, 2015 at 7:56 PM ^

Worse than MSU's field position wise. They almost held open tryouts for punter. Their field goal kicker is ok, but their kickoff guy has a bad habit of putting it out of bounds. 

EGD

October 26th, 2015 at 8:31 PM ^

I'm gonna go ahead and say i think Northwestern's victory over Nebraska at Lincoln is more impressive than IU playing MSU tough for 3.5 quarters and then imploding at the end.  Thing is, IU probably would have lost anyway despite said implosion because their kicker missed two PATs and an easy FG attempt earlier in the game.

 

UMForLife

October 26th, 2015 at 9:13 PM ^

Great post again Alum96. Thank you. Connor Cook has performed admirably in the last few years. I think Jury is still out on him against a team that can put pressure. We will see. Since we won't play them again with Cook, it doesn't matter to us.

I love your analysis and hope you get to move MN way down because of how dominant we look this week.

triguy616

October 27th, 2015 at 11:51 AM ^

You have your undead references mixed up. Zombies are typically killed by destroying the brain. Vampires are killed by a stake to the heart.

That being said, I agree MSU is more similar to a zombie than a vampire. Zombies don't look good (look like crap every game), but keep on going despite severe damage (so many injuries).