Best and Worst: MSU

Submitted by bronxblue on November 1st, 2020 at 11:37 PM

Worst: This is What We All Wanted?

Up front - this one section is going to delve a bit into COVID-19. Feel free to skip.

Honestly, I've been pretty ambivalent about the college football season happening in 2020. Once it became clear that a full-blown pandemic was sweeping across the globe and poised to linger in the United States, the notion of trying to piece together something resembling a football season felt immensely illogical. It was never a question about "if" it was possible - there was a will and, if you weren't too worried about the impact of thousands of potential infections on college students, a way. It was basically the same (cynical) logic applied to students returning to campus - it's been a staple of people's lives for decades and those with money on the line didn't want to slow that gravy train. Fast forward a couple of months and you've got nearly-empty stadiums dotted with human heads adorned with masks and Fathead cut-outs cheering on teams missing key players because a highly-communicable disease...communicated itself to them. And sometimes they didn't even get that far, cancelling games not because there was some great epiphany about the ludicrousness of trudging through a season at the same time daily positive tests counts eclipsed 100k and about 1,000 people died as games were played, but because teams are contractually obligated to cancel games as "punishment" for athletes testing positive for a disease that, again, seems to be lingering over this country like a damn fart cloud.

But beyond the banality of it all is the fact that the conference pivoted so many times you assumed they must have travelled a half-dozen times. First the season was delayed, then cancelled, then re-opened and delayed, then finally played, and during those tumultuous months players across the conference had to make decisions regarding their future health and financial well-being. Michigan was hit with a number of players potentially sitting out the year, including Jalen Mayfield, Nico Collins, and Ambry Thomas, the latter only a year removed from a bout with colitis, a condition whose treatment can weaken one's immune system and make you more succeptible to COVID-19. While Mayfield ultimately decided to return, both Collins and Thomas decided to remain opted out, major blows considering both were some of the most talented players on their side of the ball in the conference, if not nationally.

Fast forward to this game and two of the glaring weaknesses Michigan had, namely their lack of two good corners and a legitimate #1 receiver, were in full view. On the defensive side, Gemon Green gave up the first TD to White but otherwise, in my opinion, continued his solid play from last week as Jayden Reed had only 1 non-catch for not-18 yards. Not stellar by any means (his PI call came during that period in the 2nd quarter when Michigan was getting called for everything and it felt dubious). But the other corner spot, whether it be Vincent Grey or Jalen Perry, was eviscerated by freshman Ricky White, who repeatedly beat his coverage deep for huge gains on lobs by Rocky Lombardi. Some of the passes were on-point throws and credit should go to Lombardi for them, but others were absolutely ducks that better corners would have picked off. That was the thing watching this game - it was like a slow-motion car wreck in which one team just didn't seem to have any idea how to defend some rather unimpressive playcalling. I know there are personnel limitations on this team but Michigan's defense consistently looked out of sorts throughout this game to a degree I really haven't seen in some time. People will point to the OSU game last year but that was a game where Ohio State put players in positions to succeed despite Michigan having a coherent-enough gameplan they tried to execute. This game was more inexplicable, like daylight savings came early and the team seemingly overslept and groggily mucked through the game for 4 quarters. A week after flying around and generally looking like your standard-issue Don Brown team with some question marks at tackle and corner, the defense looked lost and ill-prepared, a damning indictment for a season with only 8 games and extra weeks to prepare. I recognize that Minnesota is probably worse than we all expected, but it's still a pretty good offense that Michigan largely bottled up for 4 quarters, yet MSU's absolutely-predictable offense stymied them. Michigan failed to collect a sack after picking up 5 last week, and only had 2 TFLs a week after grinding Minnesota down with 9. MSU had pockets of success running the ball but this was a Rocky Lombradi-led passing attack that was allowed to sit in the pocket (admittedly at times with heavy protection) and throw to whomever he wanted.

On the other side of the ball, Joe Milton had the type of stat line (a) was absolutely not how they drew it up, and (b) probably should have resembled Lombardi's day. Milton threw the ball 52(!) times, completing 62% (!!) for 5.8 ypa(!!!), with no TDs or picks. On the one hand, Milton made some easy throws and kept the offense moving despite being put in some bad spots (7/17 on 3rd down despite an average distance of 9 yards), and led the team on the ground with 59 yards. On the other hand, throwing the ball 52 times for under 6 ypa meant he rarely tested MSU's corners downfield and most of his rushing came on him bugging out of pockets or being forced to run because of MSU's pressure; I didn't rewatch the game but I only remember one or two designed runs. I have high hopes for Giles Jackson, Roman Wilson, and AJ Henning going forward, but this offense absolutely lacks a long downfield threat and it shows. And without that real threat to stretch defenses, MSU was able to commit a ton of defenders closer to the LOS and smother the rushing attack while also constricting passing lanes. In fact, Milton got lucky a couple of times that balls weren't picked off as he threw just outside the grasp of a LB he clearly didn't see (in the case of Simmons on one completion) or into double coverage. MSU's defense isn't like it used to be but they still have P5 players on it, and when a team only has to worry about slants and screens to RBs they can shut those down. Collins would have provided that deep threat to loosen them up.

All that said, in no way are these absences excusing a loss like this. MSU out-executed Michigan and just played better; unlike recent MSU wins in this series they deserved to win based on their performance in this game. Still, Michigan is the more talented team and should have been able to overcome these losses against a team with a new coaching staff and limited practice time. I know I'll be in the minority here so whatever, but I really wasn't as impressed by MSU's gameplan on either side of the ball as much as I was dismayed by Michigan simply not executing the way they have both toward the end of last year as well as against Minnesota. I'm sure the UFR will show some wrinkles I didn't see, but Michigan's failure to get to Lombardi or keep up with MSU's perfectly average WRs wasn't because MSU pulled out a bag of tricks or showed formations that should have surprised the staff or players. Once it was clear that MSU wasn't going to allow a ton of inside runs, it fell on Michigan's offensive staff to go back to the outside runs, jet sweeps, etc. that were working and stop, for example, putting Haskins in the wildcat near the goal line and give away the game to the defense. From a physical standpoint Michigan's secondary should have been able to keep up with Ricky White, yet technique breakdowns led to numerous long completions.

This season was always going to be strange; I doubt we'll see the majority of teams in the conference even play their full truncated season of games, and those that do will feature a fair number of players sitting out due to positive infections or the fear of contracting the disease. But one of the few consistent thru-lines is that all but the elite teams are wildly inconsistent week-to-week. Michigan looked like a world-beater last week while MSU looked to be losing the talent battle to Rutgers; this week it's Michigan that looked lost and ill-prepared while MSU played like a team that could at least give any non-OSU team trouble. Next week Michigan could go to Indiana and run the Hoosiers off the field while MSU gets lost in the cornfields against Iowa. We really don't know, and it's why this season has always felt so surreal and irrelevant. At least MSU did Michigan the solid of making this irrelevance clear 2 games in.

Worst: Caring is Overrated

This is a small point but I wanted to make it early on because I think it informs the rest of this diary - I despise the notion that players "care" more about games than others. I've talked about it before and, well, nothing's changed in my view after this game. That's always been the constant refrain in this series; whichever team wins tends to get the reflexive "they just wanted it more" platitudes based mostly on the final score. MSU played better than Michigan and should be commended for that, but Michigan didn't suddenly lose their interest in beating MSU after two straight years of smashing them into a fine paste. Similarly, the assumption that MSU suddenly found a new gear to motivate them against Michigan after Mark "the chip on my shoulder has a chip on its shoulder" Dantonio was replaced with Tucker is crazy. Reducing a complex game of football into a single factor treats the losing team as lacking in some moral character and creates some illogical conclusions such as "this 5th-year senior decided to mail in his final game against MSU".

Now, that doesn't mean teams can't come out "flat" emotionally in the sense that early mistakes or bad calls can snowball on a group of people who are under stress. Look no further than last year's game against Notre Dame, where Michigan hamblasted a top-10 Notre Dame team 45-14, picking up 437 yards (including 303 on the ground) versus 180 for the Golden Domers. That's a huge rivalry game for both teams and, given the fact the teams won't play each other until my 4-year-old is in college, had sufficient bragging rights and "stakes" in play. And yet, Michigan absolutely dominated the first half of that game and Notre Dame always seemed a step slow and "disinterested" throughout, to the point that some wondered if perhaps they had shut out Brian Kelly a bit. Well, Notre Dame hasn't lost since and just got a home game against Clemson without their Heisman-trophy candidate and likely top-5 pick QB because of a positive COVID-19 test that was a day too late.

Sometimes shit just doesn't go your way, and when it doesn't go your way against a rival it stings doubly. MSU played well enough to win this game and they did, and that's enough without analyzing the psyche of college players. The gameplans weren't great (and I'll get into why next) and the breakdowns didn't help, but people trying to read into the posture or body language of players as some proxy for the willpower of the coaches and players feels foolish.

Worst: Round Holes and Square Pegs

So yeah, about the offensive playcalling. MSU's defense isn't particularly intimidating but the one thing they've been able to do for a decade now is stop Michigan from consistently running inside. Michigan knew this last year and focused more on throwing the ball, to great success. And that's been one of Josh Gattis's defining traits as his tenure at UM has progressed - his ability to gameplan for what the defense doesn't want you to do, not just what Michigan would like to do. Obviously the offense has a core philosophy of running the ball (both from the backs as well as the QB) while mixing in the passing game, but unlike during past eras when you could set your watch to the playcalls on standard downs, this version of the offense typically tried to maximize advantages and minimize mis-matches whenever possible. Look no further than the first halves against OSU and Alabama for evidence.

Initially, I thought the offensive playcalling against MSU had regressed, that it was how it felt: a series of minimal runs into stacked boxes and setting downs on fire. And yet, on review the playcalling was more balanced, with 12 runs and 17 passes on first down before that last scoring drive featured a dozen passes. And those runs generated the same number of first downs or TDs (5/12) as passing did, though they had more success on that front in the first half than the second. Still, it obviously felt like a slog from the jump, and upon reflection I think that's because Michigan never felt like they could stay on schedule. They generally scored on drives where they didn't take a penalty or suffer lost yardage; all but one of their scoring drives were "clean" in that respect (their first TD featured the one MSU sack of the day), while only one of their non-scoring drives went off without a loss or penalty. Now, that's not particularly unique to most college offenses, but with a young QB and an offensive line performance that warrants a racheting down of expectations, Michigan found itself too often behind the sticks and unable to catch back up.

Some of that is because the offensive line struggled all day maintaining the line of scrimmage. MSU repeatedly found gaps in the blocking, sometimes with only 4 linemen, and that led to plays being re-routed or busted before they could get going. Even on some of Michigan's longer runs (I'm thinking of a Haskins's big run in particular), the backs wound up making guys miss or change direction multiple times in order to evade tacklers before they got into the open field. Compare that to last weekend wherein backs were in the open field before a defender could even get a hand on them. Milton was only sacked once but was forced out of the pocket multiple times, and overall it looked like MSU was able to consistently push back the interior of Michigan's line when they wanted to. Part of that is likely personnel but some of it also felt schematic.

What was perhaps most infuriating was a return of Michigan's reticence to run their QB on early downs. By my count Milton only ran the ball three times on first down, and only one seemed to be designed for him to do so. Obviously with the depth chart the way it is and MSU cheating up you don't want to expose your QB to excessive hits, but Michigan has a stable of good running backs that'll get defenses to bite if you give them a reason, opening up rushing lanes for Milton. Last year we all sort of assumed Patterson didn't run for reasons beyond the playcalling, but this was a game where Michigan could have used Milton's legs more efficiently and not, say, trotted out predictable wildcat runs.

And because Michigan's running game never got started, Milton wound up throwing the ball 52 times, mostly on short and intermediate passes. Honestly, if you had told me before the game that one QB would have completed under half his passes but averaged 10 ypa while the other completed 62% but only for 6 ypa, I would have assumed Milton was the one with the inconsistent howitzer. On the one hand it's a testament to Milton's maturation and ability that he never seemed panicked or manic with the ball in his hands; he made some poor throws here and there but he generally seemed to roll through his progressions and get the ball out on time. But that's not an optimal way to use Milton in this offensive scheme. Now, part of that seemed to be that the offense wasn't trying to stretch the field; on a couple of third downs Milton threw behind the marker and expected his receivers to pick up the yards after the catch. I understand that Michigan's speedy receivers are capable of mountain-goating away from defenders, but it rarely felt like Michigan's receivers were getting downfield separation or that Milton was really looking for it. Because this game, like all conference games this year, are shot like TikTok videos it was hard to see much downfield, but after watching MSU get a number of DPIs it was annoying to not see Michigan push the ball downfield and take their chances. But if you're afraid that your rocket-armed QB can't throw the ball downfield accurately, that's a major limitation for this team and one that dramatically lowers the ceiling going forward.

Best: Young Guns

I don't want to completely dismiss the effort offensively. Milton throwing the ball 52 times isn't optimal, but he didn't turn it over and generally played within himself. Both Wilson and Henning look like legitimate players as true freshmen, and Blake Corum picked up two TDs and was one of the few guys who looked demonstrably faster than the guys trying to bring him down. These are guys who can stretch the field and make this offense hum when fully operational, so if they're already integrated this deeply into the offense despite the available talent that's a positive sign. On the other end of the spectrum, Erick All struggled again bringing in the ball, though he did block well on some of Michigan's longer runs. Milton clearly has a comfort level with him and that's always valuable for a young QB to trust his TE, but All absolutely needs to start pulling in some of these throws given the matchups he tends to get.

As for the defense, I maintain that Gemon Green looks like a good #2 corner on this team. The problem, of course, is that they don't really have a #1 and that's going to kill them against teams that have multiple downfield threats. It certainly did in this game, and rotating Perry, Gray, and even Daxton Hill didn't really provide much relief. In fact, Michigan got some relief only when they shifted to two-high safeties which helped a bit but also left other parts of the field open. MSU didn't make them pay as much as they could have but teams with better offenses will, and it'll likely be pretty ugly. Again, we're only talking about 2 games and at least some of the corners' issues seemed to be misreading the play and letting guys get by them so perhaps it can be ironed out a bit, but Michigan still needs someone to emerge as a #1 corner on this team or, barring that unlikely outcome, a second, decent #2 you can help with additional coverage.

Worst: Pass Rushmore?

One of the more startling occurrences in this game was the complete lack of a Michigan pass rush. A week after both Hutchinson and Paye demolished Minnesota's offensive line, Rocky Lombardi was rarely touched despite MSU fielding a pretty forgettable line. Now, some of that seemed to be by design; MSU did a good job of chipping in with additonal blockers when necessary and Lombardi got the ball out quickly when he felt pressure. And yes, there were a number of un-called holds, but nothing egregiously different than past games. Still, MSU's offensive line isn't demonstrably better than recent vintages, yet Michigan's ends couldn't get past it. And this lack of penetration extended to the linebackers, who also struggled to get into the backfield and disrupt the MSU offense. If I was a massochist I guess I could re-watch and focus on the line, but I'll leave that to the experts.

Michigan's defensive line is only going to survive this year if they can consistently compress the ends of the pocket, and this is an ominous sign if Michigan can't do so consistently. Again, it's a weird year and this was a weird game so I'm not going to read too much into these struggles unless they persist, but the Indiana game is suddenly a referendum on whether or not this team will be able to consistently generate pressure on the QB in this league.

Worst: Whistling Pass the Graveyard

As a preface because I'm sure every MSU fan who stumbles upon this post (which they totally don't care about), Michigan didn't lose this game because of the referees. MSU was boned by stupid calls as well (there was an illegal block call that seemed like...plain ol' blocking to me) and could have lodged a couple of credible complaints had the game gone the other way. Still, a week after it felt like the refs were exceedingly lenient with holding against Minnesota, it was annoying to watch UM get called for some questionable pass interference calls (I'm thinking particularly about Gemon Green's after UM tied the game at 7) while MSU was just as grabby (an incompletion to Mike Sainristil to end Michigan's first drive in the 4th quarter jumps to mind). If the refs want to call a tight game that's fine but they need to be consistent (a) in its application to both teams and (b) throughout the game.

One of the stats I noticed in this game was that MSU had more first downs by penalty (5) than they did rushing (3). I've been writing about these games often enough that it felt like a disparity I've seen before, so I went back and looked at every game under Harbaugh and how many first downs each team got via penalty. Here's what I found.

In the last 6 games of this series, MSU has averaged a shade over 4 first downs via penalty (Michigan averages a shade under 2) and only 5 by rushing. And even that's a bit misleading, as MSU picked up a total of 20 first downs running the ball in 2016 and 2017 and have a total of...8 first downs running the ball the last 3 years. At no point since Harbaugh arrived have they "won" the penalty battle, and yet Michigan isn't particularly penalty-prone; I couldn't find a breakdown between offensive and defensive penalties but anecdotally I don't remember Michigan being egregiously dinged on defense. Again, this isn't an excuse for Michigan's loss but it's still a surprising stat.

The other issue I had with the referees, and this went both ways, was their apparent unwillingness to review questionable catches. While I think Grant Perry's reception near the goalline was correctly ruled a catch, I would have totally understood had it been investigated. But that Reed non-catch on MSU's game-winning drive absolutely shouldn't have counted and possibly changed the outcome of the game, as MSU would have had to punt and Michigan subsequently scored on the ensuing drive to pull within 3. That's sadly been a pattern in college football this year, but it was still weird to watch them review Lombardi's clear 4th-down conversion to end the game while more dubious plays remained unquestioned.

Worst: What To Make Of It All?

A lot has been made about how inexcusable this loss was, how this was clearly Harbaugh's nadir as a HC at Michigan. I get that feeling, and there's no excuse why Michigan lost to MSU after how both teams looked in week 1. But at the same time, this is an incredibly weird season. Look no further than the fact that the home team is under .500 this year (6 wins vs. 7 losses), and only Maryland won as a home team this weekend. Michigan played poorly, and both the offense and defense underwhelmed both schematically as well as on the field, but like I said up top what did people expect given how this season started? Teams are juggling spots, trying to figure out rotations and lineups, and every week we're hearing stories about guys contracting COVID-19 and games being delayed, cancelled, or played with significant chunks of rosters missing. Michigan's been lucky, I guess, that they haven't been hit hard yet, but it feels somewhat inevitable. Anyone expecting a sane and predictable season was just setting himself up for disappointment.

That's not to excuse Harbaugh, but this is sort of who he is. He's a good coach and he raises your floor but he's not going to break the ceiling that Michigan has been ramming into for the better part of 3 decades while other teams like Alabama, OSU, Clemson, etc. have smashed through. He's tried to shake up the team on both sides of the ball, bringing in guys like Brown and Gattis, and while there have been glimmers of positivity you can't only tweak at the margins so much before you either need to accept the current reality or dramatically upset the status quo. And while it's easy to say "blow it up and try something new", college football is littered with programs that tried to reset and realized too late that there's a deep chasm of pain just below your "average" season.

We'll see how this year plays out; I said when the season started I expected UM to go 5-3. Considering they've still got games against ranked IU, Wisconsin (in some form), PSU, and OSU at the end, that feels about right, give or take a game. If that leads to a referrendum on Harbaugh so be it, but there's also a good chance some of those games aren't going to happen, or the particulars will be so altered by player absences, that looking for a change because of it feels like a fool's errand.

Worst: Death to Frippery

The wildcat was innovative when it popped up in the NFL, but the fact it came into vogue with Ricky Williams sort of shows its shelf life. Yet, every time Michigan got close to the goalline Haskins saddled up under center and took a direct snap, usually smashing into the line for a yard at best. I sort of understand the deployment of this offense when you have Shea Patterson as your QB, but Joe Milton is bigger than Hassan Haskins AND has the added benefit of being able to credibly throw the ball. I screamed when Michigan tried to run a pop-pass on third down at the goalline after running with Haskins the play before, not only because it almost got picked off but also because there's no damn reason to do so with a credible dual threat already at QB. It cost Michigan 4 points that time and, arguably, the game. Much like how I hate isolation offense at the end of a basketball game, I wish offensive coordinators would just run the offense they call the rest of the game and not try to out-think a defense that has seen these formations before and know how to respond.

Quick hits

  • I was surprised by how many UM players came up lame throughout the game. In a game where UM looked a step slow throughout, seeing so many players have to come off the field for stretches was a bit alarming.
  • A week after Moddy missed 3 FGs, Quinn Nordin hit a routine FG and generally looked competent doing it. That was refreshing and, I hope, a glimpse of a non-terrifying future on special teams.

Next Week

So yeah, next week it'll be a battle of 2(!) ranked teams as Michigan travels to Bloomington to face 2-0, ranked Indiana. I'll be honest - I don't have a single read on this game. Michigan could get skunked for 4 quarters, they could dominate an Indiana team that needed a miracle to beat PSU and hasn't looked all that impressive, or it could be yet another game in this series where things explode in every direction and you just hope you're the one standing in the end. My gut tells me Michigan isn't as bad as they looked against MSU and they pick up a close win against the Hoosiers, somehow winning two road games against ranked teams for the first time in Harbaugh's tenure, but who the hell knows anymore.

Comments

Erik_in_Dayton

November 2nd, 2020 at 12:25 AM ^

I'm impressed that you pulled this together. As far as keeping Harbaugh, you are of course right that things could be much worse. As we all know, he's won nearly ten games per year and made two NY6 bowls. And he seems to run a tight ship off the field. Things are unquestionably better than they were under Rodriguez and Hoke. But only the blindest optimism could lead us to believe that he's going to even come close to catching OSU.

So, what's the answer? I...don't know how much I care at the moment. We've got the most important election of our lives and the pandemic. And anyway it's impossible to know if replacing Harbaugh would pan out. We've been on this merry-go-round for years now, and it's tiresome and not terribly important. 

 

bronxblue

November 2nd, 2020 at 9:04 AM ^

Yeah, my general feeling is this is the new normal (if they had beaten MSU they would have lost to some other team on the schedule in similar fashion), and I don't know how that changes.  OSU is so far ahead of the pack at this point that only a self-inflicted implosion will likely change that.  And there are simply more important things going on than caring about a coaching change.

Mgoczar

November 2nd, 2020 at 12:42 AM ^

As always appreciate the post and I'm 100% thinking along the same lines. Hope is Milton improves throughout the year. I really want to see improvement; that's the referendum. If they keep struggling with passing or running then yes , I think high time to make some changes. 

andrewgr

November 2nd, 2020 at 12:45 AM ^

I don't greatly object to anything you said, it all seems reasonable to me.  In particular, I share your sentiments about the entire Covid-19 nonsense; I swore before the season I wouldn't watch college football this year, and avoided any pre-season participation, but the day of the first game, I caved.  I do have some minor disagreements that probably don't change your overall narrative.

First, I think you are overselling Thomas and Collins.  Neither one of them has done anything that would lead me to say that they are some of the more talented players nationally.  I also don't think there's any way to argue that either of them should have been considered pre-season locks to be 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd team All Big Ten.  Ohio State alone has 2 Wide Receivers that I would draft ahead of Collins without any hesitation (both for the NFL and if I was playing NCAA dynasty mode or whatever.)   

Second, I found your 1st down via penalty research interesting, though I don't really know what to make of it (plus small N and all that).  I will say that if one team is consistently throwing long passes, and the other team is consistently throwing underneath and check-downs, I would absolutely expect the first team to pick up more first downs via penalties than the second team.

Finally, I have a litmus test for whether a Michigan fan is in any way dealing with reality, or if they're just drinking athletic-department supplied Koolaid.  UM's recruiting at CB and at DT has been below average for both of the past two season.  By 'below average', I don't mean for Michigan-- I mean for Power 5 teams.  Even if you're not willing to go that far, it should be absolutely established, accepted truth that they have failed at those two positions in a major, game and season altering way. 

If someone had a version of this season that they were envisioning-- or worse, publicly talking about-- that didn't account for the 100% probability that those two positions were going to cause real problems all year long, then that person was not dealing with reality.  Period.  It's not debatable, it's not a judgment call.  It has been obvious before, during, and after each recruit was evaluated and signed.  The Minnesota game didn't change either of those two failures, just as another year isn't going to change them-- barring transfer portal magic, those two spots are going to be big problems in 2021 as well, though most fans will choose to believe that a year of experience and practice is going to fix it.

Thanks for your always entertaining diary entry.

bronxblue

November 2nd, 2020 at 10:40 AM ^

Both Thomas and Collins were some of the top returning players in the conference this year, with Collins being listed in the first round of a number of drafts.  Thomas is a mid-round prospect so I recognize he might not be a top corner nationally, but I absolutely believe Collins would be one of the best WRs in the nation had he played this year.  That's obviously subjective but my point is that Michigan is without two of their top players at positions they absolutely could use them.  

The first-down penalty stat I pointed out was more that it's been a consistent discrepancy now for 6 years.  That's spanned multiple coaches and offensive systems, players, etc.  And even in this game MSU got one of their PIs on a short-ish throw to Reed, while Michigan didn't get a similar call on two downfield throws I remember from Milton.  And again, MSU has gotten 5 penalty-based first downs each year for the past 3 games, so it's not a one-off instance.  And I dug a bit into MSU's other games and they didn't get this type of penalty-based "luck" in other big games.  So it might just be a coincidence but something I saw.

I agree about the recruiting at DT; I think corner recruiting has been fine, though maybe a small step down from the Lewis-Long-Hill run.  I honestly don't know what's happening at DT, though.  They got Hinton and Smith and are in on a couple of bigger names this cycle, but there are gaps in the recruiting over the years that will absolutely hurt them in a couple of years.  Probably why they're trying all of these 3-3-5 and bulking up DE tricks to compensate.  

Yo_Blue

November 2nd, 2020 at 12:52 AM ^

Thanks for this, BB. I needed to hear some sane, well thought-out opinions after muddling through Twitter and FaceBook.  I hope we can continue the season and get all the games in but like you I'm not feeling too optimistic.

Next week should be interesting against a pass happy offense with a QB capable of tucking and running.

Go Blue.

bronxblue

November 2nd, 2020 at 10:19 AM ^

Yeah, Penix next week will be interesting.  On the one hand he's got some wheels and a couple of good receivers around him plus Scott at RB.  On the other hand, Indiana hasn't looked that good thus far this season and probably should be 1-1 with a somewhat-desultory loss at home to PSU and a decent win on the road against Rutgers.  So I have no idea what to make of them next weekend.

Hotel Putingrad

November 2nd, 2020 at 1:32 AM ^

That's a lot of words to say, "college football players and officials are inconsistent."

Although, truth be told, the reason why Harbaugh's Michigan tenure has been so disappointing is because of its remarkably predictable consistency, in terms of which games will be wins and which will be losses.

DonAZ

November 2nd, 2020 at 7:22 AM ^

At the end of the Hoke era, my hope for Michigan football going forward was to win the games they should, and at least play competitively in games where they're over-matched.  It's one thing to lose to Ohio State; it's another thing to lose where the outcome was never really in doubt.  Harbaugh's first season or two showed promise in this direction, but now things have regressed.  I hold no realistic hope Michigan ever gains entry to the "elite" status of college football, but to move up to a level where Ohio State has to play it's A-game to beat us would be nice.

bronxblue

November 2nd, 2020 at 9:10 AM ^

Sure.  But literally that's been the truth about sports since they were invented and yet people still spend their lives trying to dissect it with some deeper meaning.

I agree there is some predictability with Harbaugh, but when it breaks is always hard to pinpoint.  Sometimes it's a loss to a mediocre MSU team, sometimes it's failing to adjust your defensive scheme until it's a game too late, etc.

 

bronxblue

November 2nd, 2020 at 1:49 PM ^

I'll try, but it's not as much fun anymore with how that business is going as well.  Sadly, even the inspiration for this column (Brandon Stroud's Best & Worst columns) turned out to be penned by a guy who stole nude pictures from female wrestlers' phones without telling them and was generally a creep.

But yeah, if Michigan beats Indiana I'll try to pull some Undertaker and Midnight Express references out.

Todd92

November 2nd, 2020 at 6:54 AM ^

"Still, Michigan is the more talented team".  People keep making this inane statement after the dumpster fire.  Based on what?  MSU looked like the more talented team.  More talented QB, OL, WR, DL, LB, and CB.  The homers that populate this board are perpetually delusional.

bronxblue

November 2nd, 2020 at 9:25 AM ^

Like I said, this is a weird season where one week's performance is rarely predictive of the following week's.  MSU couldn't crack 2 yards a carry against Rutgers last week and gave up 12 TFLs and 3 sacks; this week they barely give up anything.  Last week Michigan swamped Minnesota for 5 sacks and 8 TFLs, then this week Minnesota only gave up 1 sack and 3 TFLs to Maryland.  

My point is football is weird and we're two weeks into a season of weirdness.  MSU played better and won, but LOTS of teams have won this season despite not being objectively better than the teams they play.  If me saying that Michigan is more talented than MSU really bothers you so be it, but basing your analysis on one game isn't any more internally consistent than me basing it on, say, recruiting rankings and NFL draft prospects.

Tex_Ind_Blue

November 2nd, 2020 at 2:05 PM ^

Given the very disparate behavior/game plan of MSU against everybody else and against UM, is it remotely possible that they are deliberately "hiding" stuff and UM is getting caught? 

The referring is beyond comprehension! 

On a personal note, I have never felt worse after a UM loss, even though I am watching them play only since Purdue '99. Not sure if I can take this type of effort from the coaches anymore. 

It is what it is I suppose. 

Grampy

November 2nd, 2020 at 7:24 AM ^

Nice summation of not only a very flawed game, but of the amorphous dread (as opposed to a simple case of BPONE) that hangs over the fanbase, this board included.  I can't bring myself to go on a rant about the program, unlike so many others on this board, because it seems like just a cheap response to a problem I have virtually no insight on.  Thanks for finding words that seem to capture how I feel better than anything else I've read on this board since, oh say, Saturday at 3:40 PM.

bronxblue

November 2nd, 2020 at 10:17 AM ^

Yeah, it's just...it's a weird year and we have 2 data points to pull from.  Michigan probably isn't as good as the team that we all sort of thought they were when they smashed a top-20 team on the road; they also aren't as bad as they looked against MSU at home.  People trying too hard to divine more from these two games feels like an exercise in speculation.

Montana41GoBlue

November 2nd, 2020 at 8:00 AM ^

A lot riding on the Indiana game, could say entire season.  Unfortunately the Harbaugh record at Michigan as a ranked underdog is not good,... 0-8.

"Of the games that Michigan has been 'favored', specifically in ranked-vs.-ranked matchups, the Wolverines are 6-3 when they have a higher ranking than their opponent and 3-2 when they are ranked lower.  When Michigan isn’t 'favored', unsurprisingly, it’s 0-8."

SD Larry

November 2nd, 2020 at 8:17 AM ^

I salute your patience and grit to write a piece like this after a game that surely disappointed you as much as the rest of us Bronx Blue.  Stay well and lets hope its an easier piece to write next week. 

bronxblue

November 2nd, 2020 at 10:07 AM ^

I was thinking about it but I weirdly found some positives that I didn't assume I would.  It was just...a bad game to watch and Michigan played poorly.  But this wasn't an evisceration to the degree we've seen in past years.  I'm not happy about the current state of the program but it's just such a weird year that it can be hard to get too up or down because the world can change in a week.

1VaBlue1

November 2nd, 2020 at 10:43 AM ^

No, Michigan didn't get eviscerated like it has in some past MSU games.  But the mere fact we're talking about a loss to MSU is an evisceration.  Consider the recruiting paths and general trajectory of the two programs, this was like losing to Toledo.  MSU fields, maybe, four P5 players that would get in the 2-deep at Michigan.

This game was a failure of coaching, full stop.  (I'm not calling for his head, or even Brown's, but I will admit it for what it was...)

1VaBlue1

November 2nd, 2020 at 10:40 AM ^

"That's not to excuse Harbaugh, but this is sort of who he is. He's a good coach and he raises your floor but he's not going to break the ceiling that Michigan has been ramming into for the better part of 3 decades while other teams like Alabama, OSU, Clemson, etc. have smashed through. He's tried to shake up the team on both sides of the ball, bringing in guys like Brown and Gattis, and while there have been glimmers of positivity you can't only tweak at the margins so much before you either need to accept the current reality or dramatically upset the status quo."

The reason he hasn't 'broken through' the ceiling is because his teams show up one week prepared and ready to play - witness Minnesota's destruction; then show up the next week completely unprepared and lacking any motivation.  When he gets them ready for a game, his game plans and team execution are outstanding: 2016 Game, Alabama, UMinn, various UF games, even FSU - the list is long.  But then there are always games like Saturday, when there is no objective reason for how poor they look.

You can chalk it up to a "weird season" if you want.  But it's more than that - it's a yearly repeating malaise where he just overlooks some opponents and doesn't care about others.  I don't think we'll see another performance like this one again this year.  But we'll see it next year.

1VaBlue1

November 2nd, 2020 at 11:47 AM ^

I don't disagree with most of this...  Not sure I follow the 'symptom' line, though.  Other than an institutional commitment to not engage in outright recruiting violations (bagmen), I don't buy that there are any long term (ie: multiple coaches over 20 years) issues holding back Michigan football.  There are only individual coaches that don't get the job done.

I firmly believe that JH has done everything he can to get it going, though.  Except for the (too frequent) yearly occurrences of not being prepared.  Even bagmen and 5-stars aren't going to beat being unprepared...

So what is your thought about what such a 'larger issue' is?

bronxblue

November 2nd, 2020 at 2:02 PM ^

I do think the recruiting front is significant; Michigan seems to recruit at historical norms while other teams at that upper tier just do more.  And it's not limited to UM - schools like PSU, ND, Texas, even USC recruit pretty well but simply don't pull in the elite talent year-in/year-out you see at some other schools.  And that's a big reason why each of those teams are definitively a step behind your OSU/Alabama/Clemson/UGa upper tier.  And that isn't necessarily because of impermissive benefits (though that's definitely a factor), but also just a shift in how college football works and there being a finite number of players and teams that can compete at that level. 

I think the difference is decades ago you'd see a couple of dynastic teams (think Miami, Nebraska, Oklahoma, USC, etc.) but you still had some diversity at the top.  From 1980 to 2000, for example, there were 16 teams that laid claim to some form of a national title (situations like 1997, 1990 with GT and Colorado, 1991 with Washington and Miami being examples of dual champions).  There absolutely were your dominant programs during that time (Nebraska, the U, etc.), but teams could break through because the playing field was more level.  You still had regional limitations in recruiting and development, for example, with far fewer kids criss-crossing the country for camps (which barely existed) or even visiting campuses.  By comparison, from 2000 until last year we've had 10 different champions, and it's unlikely we'll see a new name at the top of the list this year.  There's a coalescing right now in the sport, and the teams that got in at the right time are now a tier above everyone else.  

I think Michigan was prepared for this game in the sense they had a gameplan; they didn't execute it at as well as necessary and the coaches didn't compensate accordingly when it was clear parts of it weren't working.  They need faster corners, strong defensive tackles, and better run blocking.  The QB needs to be able to throw the ball better downfield and his receivers need to catch those balls/get more separation when they occur.  Some of those issues are fixable this year, others aren't, and I guess my point is that I'm not sold the latter can be fixed simply be replacing the guy at the top.

Tex_Ind_Blue

November 2nd, 2020 at 2:10 PM ^

I think Michigan was prepared for this game in the sense they had a gameplan; they didn't execute it at as well as necessary and the coaches didn't compensate accordingly when it was clear parts of it weren't working.  They need faster corners, strong defensive tackles, and better run blocking.  The QB needs to be able to throw the ball better downfield and his receivers need to catch those balls/get more separation when they occur.  Some of those issues are fixable this year, others aren't, and I guess my point is that I'm not sold the latter can be fixed simply be replacing the guy at the top.

--- I get the lack of players and slightly short on skill aspect. But what would explain the gameplan part? How can they be up and down so much, week to week? 

AlbanyBlue

November 2nd, 2020 at 9:40 PM ^

I'd say it's worse than that. Michigan isn't elite, and they are slipping relative to other teams in the Big Ten East. When Harbaugh was hired, it was "let's be competitive with OSU", then later on "well, we can't really beat them as much as other Michigan regimes did, but let's be second in the division". Now it feels like we're even with PSU, or maybe even a bit behind. Under Harbaugh, the positive has always been "we beat the teams we are supposed to". Well, they came in overconfident for this one, and lost to a team they should have handily beat -- maybe not by 25 or 21 points, but perhaps by 10 or so. And they lost the game because the gameplans on O and D did not put the players in the best position to win. So are we slipping even further? It feels like we are.

And next year, the D looks to be in worse shape.

MGlobules

November 2nd, 2020 at 9:10 PM ^

That's my take: they needed to let Milton run on early downs, assert himself, show what he could do. 

And I agree: it wasn't that MSU wanted it more. But M has had a LOT of games under Harbaugh that were slow-developing train wrecks where everyone just seemed to get tighter and tighter and tighter. A coach who can calm his kids and keep them loose--or energized--doesn't seem to be lurking inside Harbaugh any more. 

AlbanyBlue

November 2nd, 2020 at 9:33 PM ^

Thanks for slogging through this game on re-watch to write this. It's always a highlight of the blog, and I appreciate it. 

I won't say this was a "pleasure" to read, but it was well-done. We disagree on a fair number of major things, but you make a good case for your stances. Thanks for the work.

MinWhisky

November 3rd, 2020 at 11:16 AM ^

Usually, I enjoy reading your 'column' as I think it generally offers some useful insights.  Not so this time.  It just seemed like one excuse after the other, especially for JH.  

This is what I sent to someone after the MINNESOTA game: 

  • Looks like they made the right decision with Milton.  The defense will get annihilated by OSU -  the D-line is not stout, the LBs make lots of mistakes, and the CBs are awful.  Harbaugh’s still a p.... 

If even I could see that, why couldn't JH, and then take some steps to prevent what happened vs. MSU?