Michigan State 14, Michigan 10 Comment Count

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The final play. [Bryan Fuller]

Death by a thousand self-inflicted cuts.

Michigan State's offense didn't look like it belonged in the same league as Michigan's defense, which forced eight three-and-outs, added a turnover on downs, and didn't allow a point after the 8:07 mark of the second quarter. By those numbers, you'd think the Wolverines would've won this game in a blowout.

But the offense, well, it all went wrong with the offense. They turned the ball over five times: a Ty Isaac fumble that killed any momentum from a promising start, a Sean McKeon fumble when they were driving at the end of the first half, and three John O'Korn interceptions. O'Korn's picks came on consecutive second-half possessions as rain fell from the sky in sheets; the coaches continued to call passes despite O'Korn's struggling and the receivers having a tough time hanging onto the ball.

That was it, really. State needed only one long touchdown drive and another on a short field to get the win while Michigan found new and demoralizing ways to shoot themselves in the foot.

After the game, the quarterback dismissed concerns about the playcalling and the weather, instead putting the loss on his own shoulders.

"I take full ownership for this loss," said John O'Korn. "You can't turn the ball over and expect to win and you can't give them great field position all game and expect to win."

"You've got to execute the plays that are called regardless of the conditions and we didn't do that tonight."

His head coach had a different take.

"Yeah, you can criticize that," Jim Harbaugh said about the playcalling. "We were trying to run the ball. We were trying to piece drives together."

It was a depressingly familiar script. Michigan State had the better, more cohesive gameplan, highlighted by their second touchdown, a gorgeous slip screen off a fake end-around that caught the entire defense on the wrong side of the field. Michigan's pass protection repeatedly broke down; Juwann Bushell-Beatty replaced Nolan Ulizio at right tackle midway through the game with little positive effect. The late-game plays didn't break the right way; MSU all but iced the game when Brian Lewerke dropped a third-down snap, frantically scrambled, and somehow rolled over two players to get the first down before touching the ground.

Another familiar sight—stupid Michigan State penalties—gave Michigan a final shot late, first when a holding call stopped the clock on MSU's final drive, then when senior linebacker Chris Frey committed an obvious late hit on Karan Higdon. Yet again, Michigan committed an unforced error. O'Korn found Eddie McDoom wide open around the MSU 30, only for the ball to clang off McDoom's hands. A couple plays later, O'Korn's Hail Mary heave hit the rain-soaked turf.

The bitter taste from this one is going to linger. Michigan could—should—be 3-0 against MSU under Harbaugh. Instead, they're 1-2. This time around, it was the struggling offense finally costing the team a game this season. Even if we knew that was coming this year, it won't sit well that it happened against the Spartans, especially given the preceding bye week and questionable playcalling.

It's going to be a long week for a lot of people.

Comments

Ed Shuttlesworth

October 8th, 2017 at 6:36 AM ^

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Why "should" we have won this game?  The other team outplayed us, took care of the ball, and deserved it.

Little Bro lost a bunch of their team to suspensions, and we lost to them at home in Year 3.  That fact has to be faced square-on.  The shine is off Harbaugh for me.  He might be right there with Meyer, the loathsome Dantonio, and Franklin -- maybe -- but we're deluding ourselves if we think he's clearly better.

The Iron Jock

October 8th, 2017 at 8:09 AM ^

This sucks. But I guess it's what happens when you invest emotionally in a game you have no control over, wear your heart -- or the block M -- on your sleeve and put yourself out there. Sometimes we take lumps. Together. All of us. Many are left screaming for vengence. And I know the kids feel like shit about it. So we're left to vent, and opine. As for myself, reading what others have written here is the only thing that makes me feel better. It's become a tradition of sorts: sitting here with coffee, in the half light of morning, trying to console myself by taking in the shared misery. It's pretty sad. My take? Get Peters or McCaffery ready. Start now. Anything else is wasted time. Fire Drevno. Harbaugh should take over the offense. Tell the O linemen, backs and receivers they'll be benched or replaced if they can't get the job done. Lots of guys want to play at Michigan. Make plays or sit on the bench while we find someone who can. The weather was shit but we couldn't even get into range for Nordin to even possibly be a factor in the first half, before the rain. And finally, Harbaugh needs to be pressed at the presser. No more cute, curt or soft answers allowed. He may try being a stoic dick, but he needs to be held accountable for this loss to a team that looked like it wanted it more and simply manhandled our O line. And what was the gameplan? What specifically was the plan offensively? Because what we saw looked like a clusterfuck. Say what you want about the weather this, turnovers that. Sparty came to play in the same conditions. This one is on Harbaugh and the offensive staff. Sparty was 3-9 last season. It is entirely unacceptable.

tnixon16

October 8th, 2017 at 8:10 AM ^

What the hell happened to the creativity in our offensive play design? There is literally none. We went from Hot Damn to Hot Trash overnight, and I just don’t get why Harbaugh is putting up with that. That alone is what’s killing this team. Because that is the one thing that can mitigate a suspect offensive line. Yet all we do is line up and play Vanilla Ball. Don’t get it. (Thought maybe they were saving something for this game. Alas.)

michfan23

October 8th, 2017 at 8:21 AM ^

You can all neg this to Bolivia if you want, but the one thing that I cannot figure out is how Harbaugh in three years hasn’t imparted his heart on these players. These young men don’t have the fire and intensity of any of teams they’ve played in over a year. No coming out on fire and ready to match the fight. This season has been a shit fest of first half play with the team sleep walking through the game, only to realize they are talented in the second half or fourth quarter. Michigan State played like we expected them to and never once did any change in intensity take place for Michigan. If Michigan lost in a brawl I’d feel better, but most of the them didn’t seem to care that little brother came into their house and stole from them. Not one offensive player seems to want the spotlight. No one carries the team. There is no solid heartbeat.
I didn’t yell, I didn’t even feel all that disappointed because the team didn’t seem to give a shit for 60 minutes so why should I? I could criticize the play calling, which has sucked all season, complain about O Korn who gave us all a glimpse into why Speight is the starter, wonder how in the last decade we have yet to recruit any offensive lineman, and praise the defense for carrying this team. All of that could be argued, but what’s missing to me? Heart, the will to stomp an opponent. I don’t see it. Maybe Harbaugh does, but I don’t. Tonight was “Hokish”, it was embarrassing.

Icehole Woody

October 8th, 2017 at 8:47 AM ^

With O’Korn running for his life all night I was heartened when they put JBB at RT to start the 2nd half. O’Korn flees the pocket prematurely and frequently makes shitty decisions when running for his life. That’s nothing new. Evans, who started, is not an inside runner. Isaac’s fumble was a preventable strip. Higdon ran the ball the best. All WRs looked like freshmen and are not getting the job done. Not even close. Michigan would be better off with a couple more clueless O linemen in there instead of the WRs. Defense was great but you need to score points to win.

MaizeAndBlueJay

October 8th, 2017 at 9:11 AM ^

The true issue with this team and teams of the past ten years is the offensive line. Michigan has won conferences and a national championship with just plain old solid QB play. When was the last great Michigan OL unit? The 2006 team? That was ELEVEN years ago! Harbaugh brought in Frey cause Drevno wasn't getting the job done and honestly, the talent pool just isn't there right now. Hopefully he dedicates recruiting to great o-line talent which it seems like he has with Ruiz and Filiaga. That being said, the playcalling and OC (and by extension, head coach) need to find ways to get around their weakness. I just don't think 5 step drops and multiple long, deep routes on every pass play is helping ourselves at all. Wasn't there just a post on MESH on this blog last week? Can we forward that to Drevno? Passing to our big TE's in the 5-10 yard window or quick slants to our WRs to get their confidence up would be a far better way to structure our passing game. We also need to get some more misdirection in our run game to help the struggling line. I was at Florida-LSU yesterday and each team has struggled on Oline but ran so much pre snap motions, shifts and then misdirection it helped each team run for I believe +170 yards against good defenses. O-line is weak and the center of our offensive issues, but we need to find ways around it. Our D will keep things close for the time being.

Real and Spectacular

October 8th, 2017 at 10:09 AM ^

Looking forward to Brian's recap full of excuses, and then he will have a full year to prep for next years snark filled game preview where he calls them little brother and is completely wrong yet again. Sorry but not sorry.

JBE

October 8th, 2017 at 10:41 AM ^

Harbaugh’s offense is so fucking boring. The defense is so fun. At least there was the train, I guess. Even Lloyd threw out some unique plays here and there.

thesavior

October 8th, 2017 at 10:43 AM ^

"Michigan State's offense didn't look like it belonged in the same league as Michigan's defense"

Did we watch the same game? Because pre hurricane - they absolutely CARVED. US. UP. Post hurricane, sure, we got 3 and outs. But that's all they needed to win.

Whether it was offense or defense, MSU had the better game plan and was better coached. Are we better coached than Hoke years? Sure! But we pay $9 million per year for this? Dantonio is the far better coach, and he's able to own us with far less talent.

Maybe it's time for us to realize that we are just another above average regional program with an above average coach. And maybe we should just be happy with that? We aren't nationally relevant and haven't been for a long long time. And Harbaugh is as good of a coach as we'll probably be able to get. So... Lloyd-like 9-3, 3rd place B1G East indefinitely FTW?

Bertello NC

October 8th, 2017 at 10:46 AM ^

Our first drive of the game really would have been a good opportunity to try something creative. Had second and third and 7’s with the first throw targeting McKeon, which, ok I’m fine with that. The third down play where McDoom was targeted is just not a good option for us imo. Where is Eubanks? Injured?, Gentry?, put your 6 foot 4 freshman Colin’s in the game for Christ sakes. The other ailment that stunting this offense is obviously OL and QB play, which is tbh a slightly frightening issue due to the fact of who our HC is. Nonetheless our QB’s do not let the receivers make a play. It seems they are so worried about not throwing a pic or making a perfect throw that there is no room for adjustment by the targeted player. For example; the sideline fade to DPJ’s where he had his man beat, the ball is thrown out of bounds. That throw should have been thrown right at the yard numbers. Let the receiver make n adjustment and use his ability to make a play on the ball. Hell even if it’s under-thrown chances are is that the cb trailing will get called for PI. To me that’s coaching. Or lack there of. You’re not going to have perfect throws 100% of the time right roping the sideline. Don’t use the sideline as an extra defender to have to throw against. This is something that seems to plague us continually and I can’t for the life of me understand it with who’s our coach is.
IMO this offense needs to solidify who the playmakers are.

In my general observation as an armchair QB/coach this is how I’d roll from here on out:

QB- Peters- the fact we lose OKorn, and Wilton is done for this year and who knows with next year. Somehow someway they need to implement even a little rpo elements.
RB- higdon, Evans, issac, Walker. (it’s a interesting move, but I would have been repping Kwitty Paye as a power back or FB).
FB Hill, Poggi, Mason, Paye
TE- McKeon, Gentry, Wheatley
HB- Eubanks, Poggi
LT- Cole
LG- Bredeson
C- Kugler
RG- onwenu
RT- JBB
WR- DPJ, Colins (for dedicated, simple routes that can get him on the field)
Slot- Perry, Scheonle, and more perry, Evans, McDoom

This offense needs to start hammering down who has the best playmaking ability, who adds explosion, and stick with them. There needs to be changes made. Look at who we have who can make plays and coach the hell out of them. Get creative!

Wolverrrrrrroudy

October 8th, 2017 at 12:13 PM ^

If / when we lose another - I could see going with Peters. Until that happens we are a one loss team still playing for a playoff spot. Laugh if you want, but who saw Penn State turning it around last year after they lost to us. It's a tough loss, but hopefully that takes the shackles off and if we win the next two games we are in good shape.

Bertello NC

October 8th, 2017 at 12:24 PM ^

Ya the Peters move might be a little knee jerk. But the other issues I feel need to be tweaked. It needs a little shakeup. Not wholesale. But tweaks. Well designed plays that put our guys in pos to succeed and has the defense guessing. We do not have an OL yet to play the way we have been and expect continued success imo. Need more wrinkles and some element of surprise.

I Hate Buckeyes

October 8th, 2017 at 11:03 AM ^

Pay Harbaugh 12 million a year now, maybe he will come up with a better game plan against rivals. I hope between podcasts and planned vacations for the boys he can get a winning percentage against rivals...

LV Sports Bettor

October 8th, 2017 at 11:06 AM ^

of a TIGHT ENDS COACH. WOW!!!!...........overreact much after a loss? Million things need to be improved on offensively but I highly doubt bringing in another TE coach will all of sudden be the key to getting things fixed.

ramverine79

October 8th, 2017 at 11:34 AM ^

Everybody wants to keep talking about all the offensive talent not being utilized but I just don't see it. Throw out recruiting rankings and go by the eye test on the field.

I watch a lot of college football and in my view we're below average at running back, receiver and quarterback. Tight ends are above average. Hard to identify the level of raw talent on the line but it does not seem all that high but obviously experience and cohesion are just as important there as physical talent.

I don't care how many 4 stars are out there, I see a lack of speed and athleticism at the skill positions outside of DPJ and that goes way beyond youth. Our backs get what's blocked and little more, the receivers struggle to get open, even on fly routes which should be an opportunity to showcase athleticism against inferior talent and we all know the QB issue. Yes, we're obviously young - so is Michigan State. 

I'm just as frustrated as everybody on the offensive game plans but I think the bigger issue is talent. There is just no explosiveness which means you've got to move down the field in 5-8 yard chunks, which means more plays and more chances for errors and turnovers, requiring perfect execution. That's hard enough to do in the NFL when it's your full time job, much harder for college players.

Everybody compares us to Stanford. Comparable, conservative offenses, but look at the difference in talent at running back the last few years. When our offense executes a run play perfectly we get maybe 15 yards. When they do, McCaffrey or Love take it to the house, whether's it's from 20 yards or 80. They have had QB issues as well which is why they've dropped a couple games but raw talent helps cover up a lot of issues.

micheal honcho

October 8th, 2017 at 11:49 AM ^

We play football like it's a cerebral game.

It is NOT!!

It is an emotional game!! Practice is cerebral but games are won/lost on emotion and motivation.

Who is our emotional leader on this team?? Who is going to call people out on the sidelines when they make shit plays? Give shit effort? Tell me who that guy is and I'll tell you when we will have a championship caliber team. Until then, get used to it.

remdog

October 8th, 2017 at 11:56 AM ^

And all the fair weather fans here should just root for other teams if you can’t take a loss. Harbaugh is a great coach but he’s not perfect and not a miracle worker. He’s working with young inexperienced kids who make mistakes. Everything had to work perfectly for MSU yesterday and it did - 5 turnovers to 0, perfectly capitalized on two scoring opportunities and a second half monsoon to prevent a comeback. Add in Michigan playing its second string QB and without its top WR due to recent injuries. It’s hard to build a top program and it doesn’t happen overnight. There are some ups and downs since so much depends on a player or two, namely the QB. And there’s random BS that happens. It even happens to Saban and Meyer. Saban, despite stockpiling immense talent, barely escaped with a win over a crappy Texas A&M team yesterday. Meyer got his butt kicked at home by an Oklahoma team which just lost to a crappy Iowa State team. That’s college football. If you can’t handle the ups and downs, maybe you should find another sport to root for. Or just quit being a sports fan. This program is on the right track and if Harbaugh stays longer term, many more big wins will come.

Puget Sound Blue

October 8th, 2017 at 12:11 PM ^

I'm all for having patience, and things are looking better overall than they were before Harbaugh was hired. Nevertheless, this loss stings and it should. Michigan was at home playing a team with less talent and with even more holes to fill than Michigan had. The defense did its job for the most part (although I wonder if some of that had to do with MSU playing safe) and gave the offense opportunities to win. Michigan had a chance to win even on its very last drive, and came up short.

Yes, it's a young team, but even more experienced players struggled. Isaac and O'Korn are fifth-year seniors. Higdon's what, a junior? McDoom's a sophomore - okay, that's still a little inexperienced, but he should have been able to make that catch and he didn't.

Players didn't execute and MSU was better-coached for this game. There needs to be improvements - there's still a chance to make this a good season, but it's got to start now.

NateVolk

October 8th, 2017 at 12:32 PM ^

MSU wanted to score more points. This idea they shut it down purposely isn't based on reality. Maybe after it turned into a deluge weather wise they stopped passing. But before that, no way. He wanted to pound us and make us look bad on national TV.  

The calculus that we couldn't move the ball would have been a dangerous guess because we DID move the ball. Right before the half where we fumbled. Then pulled it within 4 with a quarter and a half to play. 

He had them in the shotgun numerous times when the weather got bad too. If he was playing out some master plan of icing the ball and not trying to score, he's not the coach everyone says he is. 

And I think we all know he is a hell of a coach.

 

Amaznbluedoc

October 8th, 2017 at 2:05 PM ^

Kirby smart - coach 2nd year. Sure, he’s coming on the heels of Richt who was better tha .700 but he has a young team that is playing lights out. James Franklin - takes a program on the ropes and turns them into national contenders in his third year and they look even better this year. The one who shouldn’t be named looses a tough game against ok and they bounce back and will likely be strong conference contenders. So your rationale is because we expect excellence and are witnessing mediocrity that we should like it or root for another team? I’m sorry but instead of European adventures, signing day t.v. Shows, and all of the continued hype, I want Michigan football.

remdog

October 8th, 2017 at 5:28 PM ^

yes, 4-1 with the youngest team in college football after losing one game because of 5 turnovers to 0 with half the game played in a driving rainstorm with your backup QB, etc, etc, equals mediocrity. LOL And do you recall our score against Franklin last year? And do you recall how we were literally on the cusp of the playoffs last year and derailed by some questionable officiating? And don’t get me started on Georgia... You just can’t pick and choose data points.

Mannix

October 8th, 2017 at 5:53 PM ^

No B1G championship since 2004

No Natty since 1997

2 wins vs OSU since 01

2 wins vs Sparty since 07 

From 05-13 Michigan was a pedestrian 37th in win percentage. 

Franklin won the B1G last year in spite of the beat down. 

michfan23

October 8th, 2017 at 1:45 PM ^

I’m curious to see if my suspicions of Michigan being a “weak/soft” team have anything to do with coaching and preparation. Let’s not forget that this was coming off a bye week where you’d think they would have had ample time to get the team motivated.
Alabama doesn’t seem to have issues motivating players. Either they get people with better characters or the coaches motivate players better. My vote is on the latter.

MBA77

October 8th, 2017 at 12:56 PM ^

Think what PSU went through. Their whole program decimated in the most ugly and public way possible. And now they are #4 in the country!

I think Harbaugh has been spending way too much time reading his own press clippings ... and believing them. He's suppposed to be a "quarterback coach," and while Speight was OK, JOK was deer in the headlights all evening. Two weeks to prepare, and this is what we got?

Offense is pathetic. Up front blocking stunts don't work in Q:1, yet they keep trying it. None of the running backs are strong/quick enough to break anything with any regularity. Need to re-think.

I throw 100% of the blame on the head coach. He's had plenty of time to get something going with this team, and they are barely mediocre. They weren't even fired up coming into this game; you could see it.

Too many needless penalties. And Harbaugh should put in a rule: NO—I repeat NO—celebrations for a good play or a score unless and until Michigan is ahead. The penalties and this other foolshness speaks to an undisciplined bunch of kids. And that, my friends, lies squarely on the shoulders of the head coach.

Extremely doubtful that we will win against PSU in two weeks, and we won't have a prayer against the school down south who is getting BETTER every week.

When is sombody going to call Harbaugh out? I repeat—he's had enough time to show some progress. Gee, we may be able to beat IU and Rutgers.

Huge disappointment.

Amaznbluedoc

October 8th, 2017 at 1:32 PM ^

I thought a good night’s sleep would moderate the sting of that loss, but it has not. Before everyone negs me out of existence like they did two weeks ago when I raised similar issues there are some legitimate questions about the direction of this program. In three years, the D has been building but the team play and o are in shambles. What is the character of this squad? When I watched the former players come in the tunnel yesterday hugging each other and reliving their moments, I wondered whether years from now these kids would do the same? I’m tired of the excuses. Georgia with a large number of freshmen are tearing it up. The pedophiles have turned around their program to become a serious team two years in a row. Dantonio walks into our house with a bunch of walk ons and scrubs and makes his squad look more Michigan than the wolverines. I’m sick and tired of the hype, the European adventures, the recruiting shows, and other b.s. Just play Michigan football. Yes this is a game but right now ohio and little bro own us and I feel we’re more of a NW caliber team. Sure we’ll beat Rutgers and MD, and (hopefully) IU, but really? Poor coaching, poor execution, and 2nd tier caliber football.

Amaznbluedoc

October 8th, 2017 at 1:33 PM ^

I thought a good night’s sleep would moderate the sting of that loss, but it has not. Before everyone negs me out of existence like they did two weeks ago when I raised similar issues there are some legitimate questions about the direction of this program. In three years, the D has been building but the team play and o are in shambles. What is the character of this squad? When I watched the former players come in the tunnel yesterday hugging each other and reliving their moments, I wondered whether years from now these kids would do the same? I’m tired of the excuses. Georgia with a large number of freshmen are tearing it up. The pedophiles have turned around their program to become a serious team two years in a row. Dantonio walks into our house with a bunch of walk ons and scrubs and makes his squad look more Michigan than the wolverines. I’m sick and tired of the hype, the European adventures, the recruiting shows, and other b.s. Just play Michigan football. Yes this is a game but right now ohio and little bro own us and I feel we’re more of a NW caliber team. Sure we’ll beat Rutgers and MD, and (hopefully) IU, but really? Poor coaching, poor execution, and 2nd tier caliber football.

Ed Shuttlesworth

October 8th, 2017 at 1:33 PM ^

Yeah I"m not sure another round of "Hoke left the cupboard bares" are in order after this debacle.  Hoke actually left behind a ton of talent.  A little unbalanced, but nevertheless -- a ton of talent.

And this is Year Three.