Question About Lower Rated Recruits and Their Recruitment
January 10th, 2016 at 1:29 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 6:17 AM ^
...is worth 2 beets in the bush?
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January 10th, 2016 at 7:03 AM ^
and who in hades' name negged this gif? it is fantastic.
January 10th, 2016 at 8:10 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 8:39 AM ^
I wonder if he's ever hunted bear
January 10th, 2016 at 9:42 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 10:43 PM ^
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January 10th, 2016 at 1:32 AM ^
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January 10th, 2016 at 1:35 AM ^
Either way, I think they're valid questions.
January 10th, 2016 at 1:38 AM ^
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January 10th, 2016 at 9:11 AM ^
Not a single recruiting analyst nor recruit has even hinted that anyone has been blindsided by a request to greyshirt. It's not right to pose that as part of the question. Sam Webb said that greyshirting was a possibility for one commit on the day he committed. That's almost certainly because it was part of the offer that was given. I ithink it's more fair to assume that anyone in this class who greyshirts was apprised of that possibility when they were offered.
January 10th, 2016 at 9:25 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 12:44 PM ^
I think almost all of us would agree that real grade or behavioral problems are legit reasons to revoke an offer.
Personally, I am also fine with clear, but confidential, deals, "Look kid, we like you, but if we have a chance at an elite recruit at your postion, you may need to grey shirt or look elsewhere, tho having a Michigan offer/commit may help your search esewhere."
Personally, I'm not okay with having a different grade standard for lower recruits, blindsiding with greyshirts or giving the cold shoulder after the fact, even if the SEC does it.
I am definately not okay with going back on a mutually agreed upon hard commit.
Right now, I think we lack sufficient data to know what is happening.
January 10th, 2016 at 2:05 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 1:33 AM ^
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January 10th, 2016 at 1:39 AM ^
There's nothing to "believe in." Either you agree with Harbaugh's startegy to gradually push lower-ranked recruits out of the class or you don't. I can see why it rubs some people the wrong way.
January 10th, 2016 at 1:41 AM ^
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January 10th, 2016 at 1:45 AM ^
I'll admit I don't know the full situation, but when you stop contacting a recruit, that sure sounds like the equivalent of pulling an offer.
January 10th, 2016 at 4:44 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 10:24 AM ^
There is nothing preventing a recruit from claiming an offer was made when no offer has been extended. I would be naive to think coaches don't talk to each other but that doesn't mean a player wouldn't try to leverage actual offers by claiming offers not extended.
January 10th, 2016 at 10:07 AM ^
There are plenty of things to believe in:
- Santa Claus
- Easter Bunny
- Tooth Fairy
- Bogey Man
- Big Foot
- Loch Ness Monster
- Social Security to still be around in 30 years
January 10th, 2016 at 11:11 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 12:37 PM ^
Well, I suppose Gen X has to eventually do something worth mentioning.
January 10th, 2016 at 2:02 PM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 11:11 AM ^
Rats! I was planning on retiring to the North Pole and living off my Social Security checks.
January 10th, 2016 at 11:33 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 1:37 PM ^
May be he can stay in the Equator when he retires. Pole reversal and stuff.
January 10th, 2016 at 2:21 PM ^
Negged for poor science
January 10th, 2016 at 11:17 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 1:35 AM ^
I think it's a combination of Harbaugh underestimating how much top tier talent would be interested so quickly and also him wanting to make a splash with his camps. If he didn't offer and get some recruits from those trips it wouldn't have been such a national story.
I'm sure they feel bad about having to force out some of those guys but that shouldn't have to happen from here on out. Hopefully it doesn't happen every year, I agree it doesn't look the greatest but then again you see kids decommitting all the time too.
January 10th, 2016 at 1:59 AM ^
Agreed. I think Harbaugh was expecting another bottom up rebuilding at Michigan like at Stanford where he had to get feisty 3 star recruits. Once he realized that he could compete and win for some blue chip recruits the priorities changed. I hope that we don't take early commitments from lower rated prospects this early too often. There are of course those underrated prospects which is completely understandable
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January 10th, 2016 at 2:20 AM ^
Why would Harbaugh expect that? He was one of the NFL's hottest coaches moving to a school that has recruited well since...forever.
January 10th, 2016 at 7:15 AM ^
Maybe they did great in camp and then sucked in their Senior year of real football.
I'm not saying that is the case but it's a possibility.
January 10th, 2016 at 1:39 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 9:07 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 11:40 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 12:54 PM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 10:27 PM ^
Zeke got cut for the MSU game.
January 11th, 2016 at 12:42 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 1:41 AM ^
IMHO I believe that if we make an offer up front without stipulations it should be honoured as such. It's a chess match.
January 10th, 2016 at 4:51 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 6:05 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 7:54 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 8:06 AM ^
All offers are "verbal" until August 1 of a player's senior year. So even Rashan Gary could not be "formally" offered until August 1, 2015. However, nothing is final until a player receives written National Letter of Intent paperwork, which then must be faxed to and accepted by the school.
January 10th, 2016 at 7:36 AM ^
if we honored all offers aren't we at risk of having a class size of 100+?
One of the things I admired about Hoke was that he wrapped up classes early and both he and the "commits" (not just offerees) honored their word in almost every case.
I'm not sure it was to our maximum benefit in terms of getting top talent but we ended up with highly ranked classes.
January 10th, 2016 at 8:07 AM ^
Yes to your first question. We've offered approximately 250 prospects in 2016.
January 10th, 2016 at 11:11 AM ^
January 10th, 2016 at 8:09 AM ^
What about if the player gets caught being involved in gang activity? What if he gets kicked off of his high school football team for cussing out the coach? What if he quits the team because he's not getting the ball enough? What if he totally bombs in school and has a 1.8 GPA his senior year? Should he still have his offer honored? Because those are stipulations.
January 10th, 2016 at 10:52 AM ^