The Last Two B1G Teams to Win an NCAA Championship
Really wanted Duke to lose, but history remains unchanged: The last two B1G schools to win an NCAA basketball championship are Michigan State and Michigan.
And the last two B1G schools to win an NCAA football championship are Ohio State and Michigan.
*Maryland. Sorry MSU
it's *Maryland, sorry U-M. Right?
Agreed on both counts.
I really don't understand the BTN's dedication to having pre-B1G Nebraska football greats on "B1G Elite" or showing Nebraska-Oklahoma from 1976 on "The Big Ten's Greatest Games."
So they have to put their old stuff on there.
I guess it's the terminology fiction that irks me. Nebraska vs. Oklahoma in 1976 is not, in any way, shape, or form, a Big Ten football game. And Ndamukong Suh never played in the Big Ten conference.
I guess the nomenclature could get pretty messy if they didn't simplify: Greatest Football Players of Schools Currently in the Big Ten.
By the current standard though, it seems like they should be including University of Chicago in the greatest games and greatest players lists.
I'm not a big fan of inheriting some other conference's championships. It had nothing to do with us.
We still produced one of the best title games to watch for what it's worth
I mean, sure, but I'd take the ugliest win any day.
B10 teams will never win another title again unless they play with less physicality.
Always get screwed over in crucial games by the refs in the NCAA Tourney. This year was a disaster when it comes to officiating.
Phantom 3-point foul where he never touched Hancock). That play gave Louisville 3 points instead of none and sat Trey for the rest of the half.
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who are the to teams we assume make the most fouls?
. . .
OSU? MSU? WISC? . . . am I right that we assume these teams make a lot of fouls?
Did two of these three not make the final four?
Michigan makes few fouls, but doesn't make the tourney.
Erik, I really like you as a poster, and that's why I'm askng you to look at the data. I'm an actuary (read: stats nerd) and I still can't find corellation, much less causation. Look at the numbers of calls across conference (we're not last). Look at the call discrepency between us and out of conference teams (and weigh preseason games vs. mid-season games as you will). You'll find nothing statistically significant. There's more, but that data alone is pretty damning, brotha!
Let me change that last sentence: I found nothing significant. I doubt I'm wrong (nerds!) but I may be.
You would actually be wrong to assume those teams make a lot of fouls.
Wisconsin committed the fewest fouls per game in the country. OSU was 40th (of 345)
State? Well State gets called for a lot of fouls. UM committed the 7th fewest per game.
Wisconsin is *whistled* for the fewest fouls per game in the country. That doesn't mean they don't play incredibly physical, foul-intensive basketball. The recent iterations of Bo Ryan's squads have been more offensively gifted, but let's not forget the bug people of Rigel founded their empire on playing defense every bit as aggressively as the Legion of Boom, and dared the officials to call it all.
Pretty sure Josh Gasser alone fouls more often than Michigan's entire team does, he just isn't called for any of them. Dude's also got the sharpest fingernails in the league judging by the amount of skin our wings lose when he's checking them.
saying a Big Ten team is called for less fouls than other teams can support the argument that the refs in the conference are more lenient, not that any of the teams are more finesse.
There were quite a few bad calls in that game besides just that one. That doesn't change the fact that UM forgot to guard Silva the whole second half, but there were a couple of doozies in there by the officials.
Michigan plays with finesse, so they usually don't have the problems that Wiscy and Sparty have in the NCAA. Both are allowed to play football in Big Ten basketball games. They eventually run into a crew that won't let them play that way.
The problem tonight was that the refs still allowed Duke to play "Duke Defense," complete with WWE-style eye-gouges, but didn't allow Wiscy to play "Big Ten Basketball."
That's not true. Big 10 just does not have the "big name" teams like Duke or UNC. Basketball is a game of reffing. The slow unathletic white guy pushes off every time for Duke, and they call it on Wisconsin.
Agreed. Wisconsin basketball has represented everything that is wrong with college basketball for years.
Just because they had a fun, watchable team this year doesn't erase how horrendous Bo Ryan has consistently been in years past. They are the last team to complain about officiating, considering their style. It's the equivalent of Izzo complaining about another team being too physical or another coach complaining too much to the refs.
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Not sure if serious. Allen is a better athelte than Justice Winslow?
I was B1G all the way but cumong, Duke defends and made BIG shots when the game was on the line. Tyus Jones' 3s, Okafor's scoop shot while Kaminsky hugged him...winners right there! I'm not sure how the outcome may have been different if that out of bounds had been called off the microscopic touch of Winslow's fingertip, but the better team won that game no doubt!
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Can we please finally drop the "if you are white, you are not athletic" thing?
It's really lazy, like when they used to say black guys weren't smart enough to play a position like QB.
We have seen plently of evidence all the way up to the NBA and NFL of many white guys that are very athletic.
Not just not-slow, but scary athletic.
Umm as much as I hate the next overhyped white guy from Duke in the making, you can't tell me that all of Wisconsin isn't also slow unathletic white guys LOL
slow or unathletic guy on that duke team that just won tonight.
You mean the same slow, unathletic white guy that won the McDonald's All-American slam dunk contest? Yeah, that guy is terrible.
/rant over
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I wasn't mad when Michigan lost the 2013 title game. I was disappointed, but holy shit what a fun ride it was.
Just being there was amazing. Just 5 years before that they had their worst season in program history.
you could have watched that sham of a game and not have been mad.
I wouldn't have been mad if they had actually lost a basketball game. To lose that joke of whatever it was the officials made it was infuriating.
You are not mad because you are young and think there will be lots of other opportunities ahead, so what the hell.
Then 20 years passes and you realize what a precious and rare event a National Championship is. Then the idea of someone taking that away from you completely pisses you off.
The ACC has won six straight National Championship games against the Big Ten.
Big Ten: Conference solidarity! Go Badgers!
ACC: Man, fuck Duke.
I live in ACC territory and there was not a single person I talked to rooting for Duke. They hate Duke more than we do. They do not feel that Duke "represents" them in any way.
Also: lulz at OSU for their last national title being in 1960.
My mom wasn't even born yet.
They obviously do since they've been to a decent amount of Final Fours and always come up empty handed.
No one cares in Columbus... Nice try!
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