NBA Draft Combine
Today is the first day of NBA draft combine.
Nik Stauskas measured out at:
6'5.25" in socks; 6'6.5" in shoes, 6'7.75" wingspan, 8'6" standing reach and 206 lbs.
GRIII measured out at:
6.5.5" in socks, 6' 6.75" in shoes, 6' 10" wing, 8' 4.5" reach and 211 lbs.
GRII wingspan and standing reach is a bit disappointing but he has explosive leaping ability that makes up for it.
Nik measured out exactly as expected but has the same wingspan which will hurt him a bit, but not too bad.
Gary Harris came out shorter than expected at 6'2" which will hurt his stock as a prospect. Payne measured out at 6'9" which is fine for him as a PF.
Measurements can be found at: http://stats.nba.com/draftCombineAnthro.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=100
the larger measurments are in shoes, not just socks.
You confused me, being the first post.
Luckily, I didn't overreact and neg you.
noah vonleh measured at only 6'8".
Really want the Pistons to stay away from that guy. And I think they will.
2nd longest in the combine, more than some 7 footers. his standing reach was 6th. His height/length is not a concern.
Guys with long necks/big heads are taller, that doesn't translate to basketball like a standing reach does.
possible that Gary Harris could wind up being more of a point-guardish like substance?
because he's way too short to play SG in the NBA even 6'4" is cutting it. That's a big problem for Harris who isn't a true PG.
he could be effective at point. It would probably be a struggle to begin with but I bet he could be a handful at the point, Billups style.
no problem telling Ben Gordon and Delonte West that. I guess the others are alright, but if that is who you are hanging your hat on.....
Bradley Beal is the most promising young SG and he's a little over 6'4" in shoes, the same as Harris. It might hurt his draft stock a bit, but it shouldn't prevent him from succeeding. He's got a 6'7" wingspan, which about the same as Beal.
Weren't these the shoes he played in? Explains his sprained ankle.
Stauskas did get measured today, came in with 12% body fat. The body fat thing could be a bit of a red flag, as his is the highest of any player measured so far. Also the highest of any SG in the Draft Express database, which appears to reach back all the way to 1987.
damn maple syrup in his stringent Candian diet.
I'd have to think that they would be more interested in how he actually moves. Fortunately they test shuttle speeds, vertical leap etc.
That is an interesting fact though.
Harris measured 6'2.5" in socks, so likely he'll coming in around 6'3.75" with shoes, which is rounded up to 6'4", which isn't extremely short for an NBA SG. His nearly 6'7" wingspan should help him play the 2 at the next level.
Payne, likewise, is nearly 6'10" in shoes, and has a 7'4" wingspan, which is plenty for the PF position.
Vonley, I think, is the most hurt by this. Though your listed height is without shoes, he'll likely only be 6'9" with shoes, and his skill set is more in line for the C position than the PF position, and he'd be fairly undersized for either spot. That could push him out of the lottery. EDIT: Was looking at the wrong wing span and reach though, both of which Vonley has very good measurements in, helping him a bit.
Vonleh's game is indeed well suited to play PF in the NBA imo. He didn't score a ton at IU, but its tough for freshmen to do so. He has flashed the ability to step away from the basket and hit shots out to the three point line as well as some dribble drive skills. I think he gets his shot off much quicker than Payne and in the long run is much better suited to play PF than Payne is. I see him as a poor man's Anthony Davis.
Why wouldn't Mitch be there for the non-workout stuff (measurements, interviews, etc.)?
Apparently this happened:
Minnesota asked Stauskas how many pennies were in a million dollars. Said he got it right.
— Mark Snyder (@Mark__Snyder) May 15, 2014
U.S. or Canadian dollars?
Would this be such a popular comment on here if it was said about NFL prospects? They are the ones playing a sport that often causes brain damage.
Some early hype on Stauskas from ESPN
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/10930456/nik-stauska...
Chad Ford highlights a workout done with Stauskas, McDermott, and Payne, among others, and how Stauskas was really impressive.
Key section:"Stauskas is making a play to be more than just a shooter, and the early returns look really good. He was absolutely terrific in the ballhandling drills he was put through on Tuesday.
Stauskas told me he grew up playing point guard until a late growth spurt moved him to the 2. While he wasn't a primary ballhandler at Michigan, he showed the ability to initiate the offense this past season. Based on what I saw in drills, I think he's got a chance to get into the conversation with Marcus Smart and Tyler Ennis. He isn't a pure point guard, but neither is Smart. And his ability to shoot off the bounce means he's going to have the ball in his hands a lot, regardless of what position he plays.
We have Stauskas ranked No. 12 on our Big Board, and if teams are convinced that Stauskas can play some point, he could end up passing Ennis on draft night."
Based on todays Grantland article about Van Gundy I think the odds the Pistons draft Stauskas has gone way up. If Stauskas athleticism checks out I think he's staying here. We need someone to space the floor badly and Stauskas would be the perfect complement to Drummond.
Van Gundy stresses
-No gambling on D, play position defense.(sounds similar to a system we're familiar with)
- Floor spacing on offense- Hmmm
- Utilize the 3-Ding ding ding
With the 8th selection the Detroit Pistons select from Michigan....
Players projected to be in the top 20 generally didn't participate.
6'9" without shoes with that standing reach and wingspan is plenty big enough to player center in the league and is better than Dwight Howard and compares favorably to a lot current starting centers. If GM's think he can play PF and C then I bit he moves into the lottery by the end of this process. He can be and inside-outside guy like Sheed and play both positions like him as well. If the Pistons had another pick in the teens this is exactly the kind of guys you want on the team to play the kind of offense Van Gundy wants to play. A three man big rotation of Drummond, Monroe, and Payne would be excellent if they could trade J-Smoove for a wing that could shoot.
#NBACombine Top Spot-Up Shooters (SF) 1 G Robinson (31/50), 2 M Ejim (30), 2 R Hood (30), 4 T Antetokounmpo (29), 4 L Ross (29)
— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) May 15, 2014
you're an attorney /s
Go Blue!
Patric Young from Florida came in a bit taller than I expected. I assumed he was just a buff 6'6 type guy similar to Ben Wallace. 6'10 in shoes is a solid 3 inches taller than I expected to see. Neither here nor there though. GRIII and Nik measured well and should be moving up boards as we speak due to workouts and measurements. Also, guys knocking Vonleh because he measured 6'8 without shoes are crazy. That's pretty standard for the PF position. He'll be 6'9.5 with shoes and has a freakishly long wing span at 7'4.25. If anything his measurements helped him, not hurt him.
/JayBilasVoice
The "wingspan" drinking game during the NBA Draft has become a staple. You'll always hear him say "Tip it back America" after he says it the first time.
Doug McDermott said Nik Stauskas is "one of the best I've seen" off the dribble. The two have been working out in Chicago for a few weeks.