Joe Burrow Confirms that the cash from OBJ was real
In an interview with Pardon My Take Podcast, Joe Burrow was asked straight up if the money from OBJ was real. His reply is comical. "I'm not a student athlete anymore, so yeah the money was real."
The NCAA will do nothing about the cheating that goes on in this sport.
Any school that continues to play by the rules is ignorant. You can sit on your high horse and point the morality finger all you want, but don't complain when fans stop showing up and stop spending money. We'll stop letting buckeyes in the big house when you start showing that you're ready to take football serious.
Link to podcast - interview starts at the 32 minute mark. https://podcastone.com/pardon-my-take
January 15th, 2020 at 9:08 AM ^
No, no. The NCAA said it was fake. Shame on you for doubting such a reputable institution.
January 16th, 2020 at 12:29 AM ^
How do you expect us to take you seriously when you can't even take your jorts off in the shower?
January 15th, 2020 at 9:10 AM ^
Pure thug take. Er... slug take. Uh, shrug take?
Seriously though, doing things the right way matters, and I suspect that's just something that this board will have to be divided about.
January 15th, 2020 at 9:28 AM ^
If you are one of the few schools doing something a certain way are you wrong or is the rest of the country wrong?
I am fine if the school wants to keep doing things the 'right' way, as long as they dont expect us to pay for a product that will never progress to more than what it is.
January 15th, 2020 at 9:47 AM ^
So the only “product” you will pay for is a spot in the playoffs? Good thing not everyone feels that way, because if they did there would be no one at the vast majority of college football games played.
January 15th, 2020 at 11:06 AM ^
Why would anyone continue to pay similar prices that OSU fans pay for 10-3 or 9-4 every year? That's ridiculous. I paid $150 for a end zone seat to see us get our asses beat by them AGAIN. Ticket prices for big games have literally almost tripled since 2005. And someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the seat donation is tax deductible any longer.
January 15th, 2020 at 11:55 AM ^
You really don't even need to go back all the way to 2005. 2015 endzone seats for both MSU and OSU (which section 17 would be considered) were $95 per ticket. I wouldn't consider a $35 increase from 2005 to 2015 to be that bad. The problem is 2017 were $125 and this year were $150 or so as you mentioned.
You're also correct the seat licenses are no longer able to be counted as contributions for tax purposes.
January 15th, 2020 at 2:44 PM ^
Ugghh. That fucking game.
Up by 2 scores in the fourth quarter. LLoyd and that goddamn quarter back pooch punt to leave the game in the hands of an inept Jim Hermann. O$U registers only one third down the last two drives (which of course they fucking converted).
One of the most ignominious episodes of the "Game" I can recall. . .
January 15th, 2020 at 4:07 PM ^
Why would anyone continue to pay similar prices that OSU fans pay for 10-3 or 9-4 every year?
Well then, if you feel you'd get better value at OSU, then may I suggest buying their product instead? In fact, I'd probably calculate Wins/Dollar ratio of every school and which ever D1 team has the maximum value, take your money there.
I'm sure you'd be super happy with the results this year if only you'd have paid $59/game instead.
January 15th, 2020 at 11:06 AM ^
Why would anyone continue to pay similar prices that OSU fans pay for 10-3 or 9-4 every year? That's ridiculous. I paid $150 for a end zone seat to see us get our asses beat by them AGAIN. Ticket prices for big games have literally almost tripled since 2005. And someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the seat donation is tax deductible any longer.
January 15th, 2020 at 1:31 PM ^
There are no paying attendees at the vast majority of college football games played.
There were just under 900 teams playing college football in 2019 in the USA.
January 15th, 2020 at 9:57 AM ^
Perhaps you should not view this as a consumer-product relationship.
January 15th, 2020 at 10:47 AM ^
Why not? CFB is big business, including (and especially) for Michigan.
January 15th, 2020 at 11:10 AM ^
Exactly. It is the umbrella for many sports than generate zero revenue. We have a playoff budget.
January 15th, 2020 at 4:48 PM ^
Affection. Many (perhaps most) people watch college sports because they have some form of affiliation with the school (directly or indirectly). It is "their school" and not just a product chosen by a consumer out of various options. Similar analogy for Olympics - most people do not transfer their support to another country's team simply because they may have a more appealing "product".
January 15th, 2020 at 8:52 PM ^
Wow, crg is a total sucker.
January 16th, 2020 at 8:05 AM ^
Stay classy.
January 15th, 2020 at 10:17 AM ^
I'm really curious though, and honestly wondering when I see people write stuff like this, what is the "right way?"
Who sets the right way? Is it the NCAA? Is it the Big Ten? Is it Michigan? And who within Michigan? The president, the AD, the head coach, etc.? The collective will of the fans?
It seems arbitrary in terms of what is right or wrong, especially if the NCAA is willing to lie for LSU when LSU goes against its own "rules."
I could easily argue that morally, paying people for their talents /services is right when you are profiting off of their work. I could also argue that that it's hard to support capitalism without supporting this.
January 15th, 2020 at 11:56 AM ^
The issue with paying players when it is illegal is that you become captured by the corrupt regulator. They have the ability to end you on a whim. Look at what happened to USC.
The solution is to fix the problem by announcing that we will be openly challenging the rule in the near future and defend ourselves in the court of law and public opinion.
January 15th, 2020 at 3:31 PM ^
These days, winning is the only "right way". After the past 10+ years, I'm all aboard the whatever train is going the way that leads to winning.
January 16th, 2020 at 8:48 AM ^
Do you honestly think these kids are not compensated for playing college football? They are suppose to be there for an education first People think they only get free tuition that is just the tip of the iceberg of everything they get. If we want to play college athletes then set it up like a minor league for the NFL. Drop the word university from the teams and have them pay the university a rental fee for using the facilities. Players don’t attend class and make it a job and hopefully players develop enough to make it in the NFL someday
You can still have many schools that decide they still want to abide by rules and have true student athletes and educate athletes. Since probably more then 90% of P5 players do want an education and have no chance at the NFL you get a nice balance. But let’s stop with this paying amateur athletes to play a sport in college
January 15th, 2020 at 10:55 AM ^
Rigging the law so that players can't profit from their work isn't the "right way." It's the NCAA way.
January 15th, 2020 at 12:27 PM ^
Doing things the right way does matter. Following rules that no one else follows, and that the rule maker doesn't enforce isn't the right thing though.
History is littered with rules that deserved to be broken.
January 15th, 2020 at 5:02 PM ^
Doing things right is important. Deciding what is right based on arbitrary rules decided on by a corrupt institution is illogical.
Why is is right to pay Jim Harbaugh 7 million but it is wrong to pay players what they're worth? UM will look down their noses at other programs and all they'll have to show for it is being on the wrong side of history.
January 15th, 2020 at 9:10 AM ^
i watched that video yesterday and two things were clear. first, that the money was real. the body language, the hugs, the prolonged whispering in the ear would never occur if you're handing out monopoly money
second, pretty sure OBJ's blood alcohol content was not .00% nothing necessarily wrong with that, but lets hope he wasn't driving.
January 15th, 2020 at 9:15 AM ^
LSU sideline was packed with stars. OBJ Moss etc. must’ve been one hell of a celebration.
January 15th, 2020 at 9:15 AM ^
If LSU told the NCAA (rather than just the media) it was fake, this should get them nuked. But presumably they haven't officially told the NCAA anything yet. It'll be interesting to see how this develops.
January 15th, 2020 at 9:48 AM ^
The coverup is worse than the crime they say. It’s crazy but it illustrates in plain site how impotent the NCAA is. The whole system needs to be torn down and rebuilt.
January 15th, 2020 at 1:56 PM ^
As Brandon Quinn tweeted -- LSU still employs Wade Ward as their Men's Basketball Coach. I don't think they give a F.
January 15th, 2020 at 2:27 PM ^
If you think players getting money is what's wrong with the NCAA..
https://twitter.com/jasongay/status/1217517982550757378?s=20
January 15th, 2020 at 9:16 AM ^
Video I saw showed him giving it to Jefferson (who is going into the draft. I doubt he only gave money to players going into the draft, but I am sure that is what LSU will say.
January 15th, 2020 at 9:53 AM ^
An LSU official already said it was fake money. So their initial cover-up was wrong and now they'll have to backtrack and find a way to deal with it.
My guess is they say that any players who received money from OBJ that aren't leaving gave the money back.
January 15th, 2020 at 1:32 PM ^
It was a celebratory loan so the players could go out and buy victory party supplies - balloons and streamers and stuff.
January 15th, 2020 at 2:31 PM ^
Not only was that their "explanation" but did you happen to catch their rationale for saying it was fake? They essentially said that because play money was found somewhere on the field, at some point after the game, that meant that the multi-millionaire who pulled a wad of bills out of his pocket was distributing fake money.
It's such a nonsensical explanation, one has to wonder why they even bothered. They clearly DGAF.
January 15th, 2020 at 11:50 PM ^
People are, in general, fine with total BS as explanations for things.
January 15th, 2020 at 6:31 PM ^
it worked for Chase Young!
January 15th, 2020 at 8:48 PM ^
Paper trails with cash?
January 15th, 2020 at 9:16 AM ^
Agreed, let's stop pretending to prioritize school for kids with NFL potential and antiquated rules around student athletes and give them what they deserve (and what's probably needed to sign top 5 classes).
January 15th, 2020 at 9:48 AM ^
Agreed. I've come to the conclusion that we should make it as easy for football players as possible, just like the other top programs do, online classes, whatever.
The ones that want an excellent education (most of the players I think) have all the resources they need to get one. But if there's a 5* QB that wants to practice 12 hours a day and take online classes, let him. It won't affect our academic reputation in any way, since most people already assume (correctly) athletes are not doing the same work as regular students.
Fuck it. Lets win. Even the ivies cut some corners with their football players.
January 15th, 2020 at 9:52 AM ^
What if it’s a 5 star QB and he wants to play a little golf in the summer?
Make golf a curriculum option.
January 15th, 2020 at 2:50 PM ^
Shea could be the GA!
January 15th, 2020 at 10:06 AM ^
Why stop there? Just cut to the chase and spin off the revenue sports completely from the school and them simply be school-sponsored semi-pro franchises, open to the legitimate students as well as non-student affiliates.
Or, we could have this be something only for real students - which is what college football was for the first 130+ years.
January 15th, 2020 at 11:08 AM ^
Every read Stagg v. Yost? It might change your belief that cfb was something for real students for the first 130+ years. Certainly cfb has had shady dealings for a long time.
January 15th, 2020 at 11:25 AM ^
Lmao schools have been paying players and cheating in other ways from the start.
January 15th, 2020 at 1:05 PM ^
hmmm. nope.
January 15th, 2020 at 10:48 PM ^
What do you mean? It’s pretty well documented - many players in the early days were not even students. Seriously, pick up a couple of books on the subject.
January 16th, 2020 at 12:36 AM ^
Ummm...YES.
January 15th, 2020 at 9:19 AM ^
UM is just about as successful as a football program can be while at least pretending that NCAA rules matter.
And I'm OK with that.
January 16th, 2020 at 10:26 AM ^
Sorry, but I'll never be OK with 2-17.
January 15th, 2020 at 9:30 AM ^
You done messed up OBJ!