Iowa Snowflakes - The Offense
October 5th, 2019 at 7:44 PM ^
The offense was good last year, and had the defense not shit itself, that offense played well enough to beat OSU.
October 5th, 2019 at 8:05 PM ^
The offense was very unclutch against OSU last year and put the defense in a lot of bad situations.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:32 PM ^
How bad are our other QBs if they refuse to take the job from Patterson?
October 5th, 2019 at 3:32 PM ^
Speed in space ????
October 5th, 2019 at 3:37 PM ^
I would like to shoot this offense very quickly into space. Horrible.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:47 PM ^
When the “Speed in Space” offense was bragged about by the media before the year, I bet they didn’t think it would be defined as two draws and a incomplete pass 3 and out.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:32 PM ^
If Dylan McCaffrey is healthy, I would love to see Shea Patterson never play again.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:32 PM ^
Look y'all, I'm happy with a win, but the offense is absolutely atrocious. Seems we are allergic to what works - QB reads and passing the ball to our good WRs. Let's be honest, this game should have been 30-3 with a semi-competent offense. Nothing but wasted talent.
October 5th, 2019 at 6:20 PM ^
30-3 but in favor of Iowa. Don't know what game you were watching but what UM trotted out there today they will be lucky to score 30 points the rest of the year. The defense saved the offense today plain and simple. Look how many times Iowa was inside the 40 compared the the offensive juggernaut that is Michigan. Defense and only the defense won this game. The offense had absolutely nothing to do with it.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:32 PM ^
Just terrible. Everything they try to do just seems so slow and they make everything seem so fucking difficult. Shea needs to be benched ASAP
October 5th, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^
I don't even have a take I just don't have a clue anymore
October 5th, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^
It’s bad. It’s gross.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^
Offense SUCKS. Patterson is terrible and should be benched.
Offense just sucks
October 5th, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^
"Imma gonna need those keys back"
- Harbaugh, hopefully
October 5th, 2019 at 3:36 PM ^
I have even less faith in Harbaugh than Gattis running this offense, and that should say a lot.
October 5th, 2019 at 4:07 PM ^
I mean, we were 25th in S&P+ offense last year running basically the same offense with more snaps under center.
October 5th, 2019 at 4:33 PM ^
But I was told that Pep was the problem.
October 5th, 2019 at 4:37 PM ^
25th isn't where Michigan needs to be either and a lot of the offense didn't make sense, but at least it wasn't this shit. Seems like Michigan swung for the fences and knocked themselves out with the bat with Gattis. Michigan Football is like the Peter Principle nexus of the universe.
October 5th, 2019 at 8:46 PM ^
Pep blew it. Took way too long when we were losing. No hurry. He blew it. When we fell behind our plodding O had no adjustment to tempo.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^
We were promised speed in space and got three yards and a cloud of disappointment.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^
Obviously the O is terrible. There are some coaching problems, IMO; Gattis is a big disappointment.
But the biggest problem is at QB. And putting in a new QB won’t fix it, because he has the same coach.
Harbaugh ruins his QBs.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:36 PM ^
Harbaugh has had 5 years to recruit and develop a good QB. Still waiting.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:41 PM ^
The only guy who has worked out is Rudock, and perhaps Shea improves the way he did late in the season.
His other QBs: Speight, the worker. OKorn, who was good as a freshman. Peters, McCaffrey, and Milton, all highly rated guys he recruited. And Patterson, a 5-star.
Not every QB pans out. But all of Harbaugh’s guys, except Rudock, have been actively underwhelming and in most cases actively regressed. I don’t know how or what, but something in the way Harbaugh manages and teaches them makes them bad. They aren’t comfortable beating zones, they are nervous in their reads, and they get worse over time as their mistakes compound and they grow afraid of making more.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:48 PM ^
Trust me, the alumni and athletic department know.
When the season really falls apart Harbaugh is gone.
October 6th, 2019 at 5:15 AM ^
Trust me -- don't trust people who say, "Trust me." Except of course anonymous guys on a message board. They are totally trustworthy.
October 5th, 2019 at 4:24 PM ^
I've said it before and I'll stick to it. All of JH's QBs have had it drilled into them not to make a mistake. I'm sure it's done so often that they lose the ability to just play. Then we get hesitancy, never throwing to a spot, second-guess, ball pat, third-guess, ball-pat, happy feet, ok now throw. That's why most throws, especially against zone, have bad timing. Everything is "should I? should I? OK, go....." So the longer they're in the system, the worse they get. Rudock "could" be an outlier since he seemed more NFL-caliber and more able to deal with the risk-averse messages and still use his natural ability. But he STILL had a shit game at Iowa 2016. So don't say the last half of 2016 was continual improvement.
And that to the extra problem, which is Shea's seeming inability to survey the whole field, and we have what we have.
I have no clue and no inside information, but based on results, I think this is pretty right on here.
October 5th, 2019 at 5:07 PM ^
There is information we will never get. But I wonder how Harbaugh trains the QBs to make reads. I remember when he was in SF reading an article explaining how he designs plays with easy reads for his QBs, but other than that, what evidence is there that he is coaching them well? If he, with his scattershot speaking/thinking style, not great at communicating his thoughts on QBing to the players? Does he load them up with detail information rather than encourage them to master concepts first followed by nuance? Does he ONLY deal with basic concepts and expect them to swim on their own?
We don't know and we never will. We can only judge by results. But the results are bad.
October 5th, 2019 at 5:52 PM ^
Speight was the QB at Iowa.
October 5th, 2019 at 6:24 PM ^
Thank you pastor!
October 5th, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^
Bring back Wilton Speight or Brandon Peters! Shea is garbage
October 5th, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^
The key to this whole offense was made abundantly clear on the drive where we started with passes to Collins, DPJ, and Black. First down, first down, first down.
And then, wouldn't you know it: the running game opened up and we gained chunk yardage for the only time the whole game.
Then, of course, we didn't do this again the rest of the game.
Those first few sets of downs are what our whole offense should look like all the time. Throw it to our three NFL receivers. That established, run.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:35 PM ^
Then we threw a jump ball to Bell instead of Collins. It's so dumb.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:40 PM ^
I saw the same thing. That is on the QB. He made bad decisions.
October 5th, 2019 at 4:18 PM ^
It's not like we didn't throw before that though, Shea is just unable to read a zone defense for shit. Play designs aren't doing him any favors by sending 3 routes into the same area and all in front of the safeties.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^
Definite improvement, but play calling still sucks
October 5th, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^
One positive was the first drive of the 4th. Liked the adjustments and should have converted. Despite no points, that drive was critical
October 5th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^
O line cant block rbs cant elude tacklers and QB is just bad.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^
Need to treat the D to dinner
October 5th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^
When do the Speed In Space shirts get marked down 90%?
October 5th, 2019 at 3:52 PM ^
Ironic speed in space shirts might sell
October 5th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^
Offense scored 10 points in the first 6:30 (3 courtesy of the defense giving the offense the ball deep in Iowa territory before the offense went 3-and-out.
0 the final 53:30.
Pathetic.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^
The offense was terrible. Do they not have any run plays different than that run up the middle?
October 5th, 2019 at 6:32 PM ^
No they do not. Sadly there is not one offensive mind on the staff. Hang in there though, all is not lost, odds are they will eventually score on a run up the middle. UM has 8 million riding on it.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^
Enjoy this win, because we aren't beating any better teams with this offense.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:36 PM ^
Don't we play Rutgers again next year?
October 5th, 2019 at 3:38 PM ^
Just a reminder that Michigan is never, ever beating Ohio State again. I have a 8 year nephew, and he, his children, and his grandchildren will never see Michigan beat Ohio State. And I might be underselling that.
Michigan will get beat by Penn State, likely badly, but they can compete with Notre Dame and Michigan State, especially at home.
It's a win. Enjoy it.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^
Complete Shitshow
October 5th, 2019 at 3:34 PM ^
I'm a lot of bit drunk but it seems like we should be able to appeal Shea Patterson's eligibility. I'm pretty sure he should have sat out a year after transferring from Ole Miss.
It doesn't seem fair.
October 5th, 2019 at 3:38 PM ^
Ole Mississippi State Rebel Dogs
October 5th, 2019 at 3:40 PM ^
touche...
These Rum and cokes have caught up to me.