OT: Pistons Hire Stan Van Gundy
Van Gundy will join the Los Angeles Clippers' Doc Rivers and San Antonio Spurs' Gregg Popovich as the only coaches with full authority over personnel decisions.
Question is, will he bring along someone to be the GM, or help with that like Otis Smith, and who will his assistants be?
Link:http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2014/05/13/nba-pistons-hire-stan-van-gundy/9065277/
This should be edited...being reported as a done deal LINK
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Nothing like hiring three previously fired coaches in a row.
SVG did really well with the Magic and took them to the NBA Finals. Yes, Dwight Howard was dominant down low, but he knows how to utilize his team. He never had a losing record as a NBA coach and that's a pretty good accomplishment.
Look at 2008-2009 Orlando Magic when they went to NBA Finals:
PG: Jameer Nelson
SG: Courtney Lee
SF: Hedo Turkologu
PF: Rashard Lewis
C: Dwight Howard
Bench:
PG: Rafer Alston
C: Marcin Gortat
SG: JJ Redick
SG/SF: Mikeal Pietrus
This is pretty average team but he knew how to maxmize their talent and nearly got them a NBA title.
Nothing like hiring three previously fired coaches in a row.
The only available coaches who've never been fired are ones who've never been hired. What are they supposed to do, make Jerry Sloan an offer he can't refuse?
How many living, non-employed head coaches in the history of the NBA are NOT "previously fired"?
At least we know where we stand. That is to say right underneath a falling boulder.
Actually, the Piston job is more favorable. Sign a 5 year contract, get fired after one season and then sit at your beach house and collect millions for a few years.
Wait, Mike Brown is available. He is obviously the best fit.
Though +1 for that. Good job if you can get it (and lose it)
If Stan's not to your liking might I suggest the newly available Mike Brown for your head coaching vacancy?
Mike promises to lead your team to the best regular season record in the NBA AND the even the NBA finals. All you have to do is add LeBron James to your roster.
be an excellent hire, in my opinion. Who better to build in a small market around a big-time young C than a guy who has already done it? I think he'll finally bring in the shooters this team needs around their young bigs. Not sure how he'll handle the PF situation, seeing as he usually tends to prefer a stretch-four, and neither Smith or Monroe qualifies.
Josh Smith seems to think he does.
I'll take Stan Van Gundy over Mike Brown anyday. Get this team to the playoffs and he should be the longest tenured coach here since Flip. It shouldn't be too hard with the core this team has.
I absolutely agree.
Quick question - if you were a HC candidate which roster would you rather take over? The Knicks, the Pistons or the Cavs? Personally (and I know I'm biased) I think the Cavs have the most talent of the three but have had horrible coaching to keep them from showing it.
simply because I have no clue how long Kyrie is going to be around.
It's an interesting question. The internets have (kind of) spoken:
- NYK, http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york.htm
- DET, http://hoopshype.com/salaries/detroit.htm
- CLE, http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm
Each team is likely spoken for next season, with NYK way over. Yet in the 2015/16 season, both NYK and CLE barely have any money tied up. DET a bit different with money tied up in JSmoov and Jennings.
So, in this case, if you're Phil Jackson, you're probably thinking to tank in 2014/15 and get as high a draft pick as possible (wondering aloud if they even have one...) and build for the future through a young stud and some awesome free agents who want to play in NY. CLE could realistically lose Kyrie. and DET has the afore-mentioned tieups to Smith and Jennings in 2015/16 despite some young talented bigs.
I'd take NY.
The NBA salary cap is going to rise by $5 million next year. So that means as things stand the Pistons have like $21 million in cap space. Jonas Jerebko has a player option for $4.5 million and is considering not picking it up. The Pistons can also amnesty him if they want. The Pistons can also not pick up Chauncey Billups' $2.5 million player option. So they could potentially have $28 million in cap space. That's more than enough money to totally revamp their roster. If you're looking to build a team in your own image, the Pistons are a prime spot.
and this is just semantics most likely, but SVG will be the President of Basketball Operations and Head Coach. Wojnarowksi is reporting that Otis Smith will likely join the organization as the GM.
I'm on board with this!
My God how this franchise has fallen.
Those '93 grads are the worst.
Tears in heaven won song of the year in 93.
that the Pistons think that the solution to their problems is this guy:
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7778991/orlando-magic-stan-van-gundy-… You and this "turd" of a franchise deserve each other.SVG had to coach Dwight Howard, who is a walking sack of "player issues." Look at how the "loaded" Houston Rockets did with Howard this year as a reference.
I was hoping to see the Tom Izzo circus roll into Detroit, just for Sparty schadenfreude, but SVG would be a great pick.
He played grind it up slow it down with 2 post players with the Heat, but chose to do 4 out/1 in when he's with the Magic when he had shooters with Dwight down low.
A good coach knows how to adjust to his personnel and SVG has been really sucessful in the NBA. Look at his record as a NBA coach:
2003-2004 - Miami Heat: 42-40 (EC Semi)
2004-2005 - Miami: 59-23 (ECF)
2005-2006 - Miami: 11-10 (resigned)
2007-2008 - Orlando Magic: 52-30 (EC Semi)
2008-2009 - Orlando: 59-23 (NBA Finals)
2009-2010 - Orlando: 59-23 (ECF)
2010-2011 - Orlando: 52-30 (1st Round)
2011-2012 - Orlando: 37-29 (1st Round)
He has been very successful and knows how to adjust to personnel. He certainly will take advantage of Andre Drummond's skill set at C.
He has my endorsement and it's way better than the other coaches in the past few years.
Here's a really good quote from the Grantland article:
"Van Gundy is one of a very few coaches known to shape his system to the personnel on hand, rather than imposing a strict system on whatever roster he winds up with. He can be a “fit” for nearly any job he chooses. (That list, by the way, basically consists of Van Gundy, Gregg Popovich, Rick Carlisle, and George Karl, and that’s it.) Most remember Van Gundy as a four-out, spread pick-and-roll devotee, one of the first to truly emphasize the importance of 3s and experiment with “stretch 4” types with the Orlando Magic. But before that, his Miami Heat teams slowed the pace down, almost always deploying two traditional bigs at the same time, and playing largely through Shaquille O’Neal in the post or an isolated Dwyane Wade on the wing."
We need better players. Go the Miami and Boston route and get a big 3.
Perhaps some insight into potential terms of such a marriage...
Stan Van Gundy and Detroit are negotiating on a five-year, $35M deal, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) May 13, 2014
I'm jealous - SVG would be an excellent hire for the Pistons. Now....who can my Cavs get? I know....Mike Brown! I hear he's available again.
Maybe we should sign him - after all, he has experience and he has been to the NBA finals.
as the Detroit Bad Boys community is now freaking out about Otis Smith coming with.
Gores has looked like a complete jackass until this moment. If he pulls this off, that's something.
that Smith sucks. A lot of it is based in fact, but I don't think that would be a huge concern, as SVG would have final say. Smith did some dumb things, not limited to drafting Fran Vasquez and signing guys like Rashard Lewis to major deals. I just like that they're freaking out because their arguments are never logical and always way too dramatic. It's basically this site after a horrific football loss 24/7.
"It's basically this site after a horrific football loss 24/7"
Or this site 24/7 the last 6 months?
Well, the last 6 months have technically been after a horrific football loss.
which is why I find their despair so hilarious. As far as Pistons communities go online, it's the only prominent one I'm aware of. I just can't bring myself to join it though because it's basically an MLive comment section affair. Which is off-kilter from what I'm used to on most SBNation sites.
I don't understand all of this weird Gores hate that has cropped up of late.
He's basically said, "I will pay any amount of money or do whatever it takes for the Pistons to be successful." Sounds good to me. There are a lot of owners in professional sports where that isn't a given.
He gave Joe D one last shot, and fired him like all of the fans wanted. Now he's throwing his check book at the most coveted coach out there, and landed him.
He has been A-OK as far as I'm concerned.
Actually, Gores let Dumars step down. His contract was done, anyway.
Jeff is the superior Van Gundy.
No. He's really not.
Make it happen.