mGrowOld

December 7th, 2022 at 12:02 PM ^

See now I wouldnt delete yours even though it was second because you provided a source and incredibly SUCCESSFULLY EMBEDDED A TWEET which to some posters is more difficult than Chinese calculus.  

The other post has zero content and just the headline.  That one ought to go in my book.

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M-GO-Beek

December 7th, 2022 at 12:26 PM ^

6 years at under $6mil/year, that is pretty close to what he was getting at Purdue (if I recall it was around $5mil/year). I know Louisville is "home" for him, but I would think with the influx of money coming to the BIG Purdue would have been able to keep him, especially with such small difference in pay.  He turned down the Louisville job once before. I wonder if things started souring for him at Purdue for some reason.

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FrankMurphy

December 7th, 2022 at 1:27 PM ^

Not really. Even though Louisville is a relatively recent addition to the Power 5, they have a higher ceiling and more accomplishments in recent years (BCS bowl win, Heisman Trophy winner).

To top it off, he was born and raised in Louisville, played QB there, and got his first coaching job there. Frankly, I'm surprised he turned it down back in 2018.

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BTB grad

December 7th, 2022 at 3:02 PM ^

Their NIL program is apparently getting super serious. They’ve been recruiting pretty well too. They’ve got a 5 star RB and a 4 star top 100 WR committed this class. And with Cincinnati losing Fickell and supposedly fumbling NIL along with Kentucky showing it’s not a top 25 team every year, he’s got a chance to recruit well in Kentucky and Ohio.

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FrankMurphy

December 7th, 2022 at 1:14 PM ^

If Purdue has any sense, Chris Creighton will be their first phone call. It's mind-boggling to me that's he's not being mentioned as a candidate for Power 5 openings.

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Newton Gimmick

December 7th, 2022 at 1:34 PM ^

Yeah, it's puzzling.  It's one thing to get rapid improvement in year 2 or 3 then hop to a better job, and another to get consistent winning seasons in a place like Ypsilanti.  Maybe it's that huge beard he had that made him look like he's 78 years old, even though he was only in his early 50s.  Or maybe he really likes Ma Lou's Chicken, IDK 
 

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spacecowboy

December 7th, 2022 at 1:15 PM ^

I hope UL flails and fails with him but he is a decent coach.  Absolute shit fan base and Athletic Dept.  Terrible Bball start was the story down here so good timing I guess.  Purdue should hire Brian Griese if he has any interest in coaching.  Bob would approve.  

Next thought was Mike Hart or S Moore...  Hope they stay with us for a while.  

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Newton Gimmick

December 7th, 2022 at 1:31 PM ^

Will have to update my rankings.  From just last week:

"I was just thinking, where does Tucker rank in Big 10 coaches?  Is he even top 10?

Here are my very impressionistic rankings, ordered based on whom I'd hire if I had an opening at a random P5 school and was interested solely in wins and losses:

1. Harbaugh - has it rolling, confident, masterpiece gameplans, has built multiple programs

Near-top tier (#2-6):
Rhule, Fickell - great program builders.  Rhule has done it in two different tough situations.

Day - Hard to rank.  Bloom is definitely off right now but he's 45-5 and just 2 (LOL) Big 10 losses.  Respected playcaller, recruits well, even for OSU.  But there's that 3rd base thing, people are understandably wondering if he's Ryan Cooper Coker Helfrich Day.

Brohm - Purdue isn't ranked but they're always dangerous.  Getting that program to consistent New Year's Day bowls is a pretty good accomplishment.  I think he'd do well at a blueblood.

Bert - kind of a turd as a person but the guy knows how to build a Big 10 program.  Will see if he can keep it going if/when Walters moves on.

Next tier (the F's, #7-10)

Franklin - He's fun to laugh at on game day but he's alright overall.  Kind of where Harbaugh was stuck a few years ago: recruits very well, doesn't do well on the road or in big games, but gets you to 10 wins most years.  Feels like one of these years they'll break through?  Maybe.

Fleck - Not quite the momentum some may have expected at this point, but Minnesota is still competitive and they thrash bad teams with a good run game, which is not bad for that program

Ferentz - Iowa is still a tough out even with legendarily bad offense.  One of the most accomplished coaches even if his time may be passing / succumbing to nepotism

Fitzgerald - Hard to rank. Historically he's top 5 at worst but since Hankwitz retired they've been adrift.  Remember when they used to have fun offenses?  Northwestern seasons used to be up/up, then up/down, now just down.

Next tier (#11-14)

Schiano - Expected more growth this year overall but at least they kind of have half a team now, with a stingier defense.  His first stint at Rutgers is still one of the best coaching jobs of my lifetime, but this job may be even harder.  He's a pretty good coach but the results aren't really there.

Tucker - What success he's had is largely attributable to Walker, though he does get some credit for finding him.  He's recruited pretty well and they do play hard when you least expect it.  Then they crap themselves (Indiana scores 39 points with two completions?) when you least expect it.  Sounds like pre-Dantonio MSU?  I still don't really know what his schematic identity is.  And the contract thing will add pressure even if they have an empty 7 wins next year.

Locksley - Great recruiter and pretty good offense but they always seem like a paper tiger.  Has Maryland in the 6-7 wins range, which is about right historically and not-bad considering they have three auto-losses every year via divisional play.  Probably wouldn't do as well at most other programs, as DC area recruiting is his specialty.

Allen - Well, they still play hard for him but overall they're pretty limp without Penix...

Overall I don't think there are any *bad* (or "horseshit") coaches in the Big 10 right now, so it felt pretty harsh to the bottom tier.  But obviously paying a guy 95 mil means the expectations are you get a top-5 coach at the very worst."

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