Stats/Takes from UM's hosing of the Hoosiers

Submitted by kyle.aaronson on October 16th, 2023 at 12:50 PM

What is this diary? Each week, I take a deep dive into the box scores and team pages from Pro Football Focus, Game on Paper, College Football Data, and more for as many Big Ten teams as I can manage. Often, life makes it impossible to cover every team, but I try to always cover OSU, MSU, PSU, and whoever Michigan is playing in the coming week. I try to generate a couple blurbs based on the statistics I find compelling from each game/team. Really, there’s no formula. This is just a very paper-based, statistical approach to evaluating teams. And, also, sometimes I watch a little bit of film if I don’t believe the statistics and want to know what the heck is happening (see: Drew Allar).

Note. Since I had a bunch of free time this Sunday, I decided to try to get the Michigan content done and published before all the hard work the guys do makes my stats/takes irrelevant. You can think of this as the first released single to the album I'll drop later this week.

MICHIGAN defeated INDIANA (52-7)

THE WOLVERINES STAND ALONE

Even more so than in weeks prior, the analytics make one thing abundantly clear: Michigan is playing like the best team in the country.

  • F+ hasn’t been revealed yet this week, but they’ll be first by a healthy margin.
  • PFF gives them their best overall grade (97.2) by a pretty healthy margin, too (the second highest graded team is Air Force at 95.6) .
  • College Football Data has them with the best net predicted points added (0.572) by yet another healthy margin (Oregon [0.407] just edges Washington [0.405]).
  • They have an average victory of 39.3 to 6.7.

WORSE AGAINST NOBODIES

If they wish, talking heads can continue to parrot the narrative that Michigan ain’t played nobody because, in all fairness, it’s kind of true. But guess what happens when the Wolverines play teams that are slightly better than nobody: they win by more. In the four games they’ve played against teams ranked worse than 80th in SP+ (ECU, UNLV, BGSU, IU), Michigan’s average victory is 37.0-5.8 (+31.2). In the three games they’ve played against teams ranked in the 50s in SP+ (Rutgers, Nebraska, Minnesota), Michigan’s average victory is 42.7-8 (+34.7). The only logical conclusion is that when Michigan plays Maryland (32nd in SP+), they’ll win by about 37 points, and when Michigan plays Ohio State (2nd) and Penn State (8th), they’ll win by about 40. That’s just how growth works.

MCCARTHY'S STATISTICAL HEISMAN CAMPAIGN

After yesterday’s results, Michael Penix Jr. will win the Heisman unless something (a) awful or (b) bananas happens. His raw numbers (384.3 passing yards per game) are too gaudy for the national media (who still thinks total yardage is a good way of determining who has the best offense) to ignore. However, on an efficiency basis, J.J. McCarthy is at least his equal, if not better.

I forgot to add it to the table, but McCarthy also bests Penix in QBR (which is opponent adjusted). McCarthy’s first with 92.6, and Penix is second with 91.7.

And that’s just passing data. What about what McCarthy brings to the table with his legs? He’s run the ball 24 times for 203 yards (8.5 Y/C) and three touchdowns. Penix has run the ball just six times for 20 yards (3.3 Y/C) and zero TDs.

It’s not going to happen. Hell, McCarthy might not even get invited to New York. But I’m going to keep beating the drum until my fingers bleed.

BLAKE CORUM'S USAGE

Last week, I discussed how a decreased workload for the star RB was probably optimal this year because last year he became optimized around 120 carries. He’s on pace to hit 120 carries around the end of the Purdue game (aka the last preseason game). Here’s a CHART that compares his yearly workloads.

ONE PLAY AND THAT'S IT

Each of the four Big Ten teams Michigan’s played this year have scored exactly one touchdown against them: Rutgers scored on a 69 yard catch-and-run slant on the opening drive; Nebraska scored on a 74 yard run in ultra-garbage time; Minnesota scored on a 35 yard prayer at the end of the half; and Indiana scored on a 44 yard trick play that fooled a young safety. Outside of these plays, Michigan has allowed its Big Ten opponents to gain just 3.65 yards per play.

ROTATING DEFENSIVE LINEMEN

In the comments section of the game recap post, one “bweldon” said: “One stat I found interesting was the number of snaps that the D-Line had that game as well as that not a single player on the DL is averaging over 30 snaps a game.  That is the sort of rotation and depth that Georgia had the past 2 years.    That makes a huge difference later in the season.” Here are two pie charts showing (first) the snap distribution amongst Georgia and also Michigan defensive ends that average 10+ snaps per game, and (second) the snap distribution amongst Georgia and also Michigan defensive tackles that average 10+ snaps per game.

The easiest thing to note is: “Georgia has one additional end and tackle that averaged 10+ snaps per game.” The easiest thing to question is: “Does that matter?” Is your team more efficient if you have six ends and five tackles to rotate? Or can we assume that five ends and four tackles keeps your team’s defensive line fresh enough that you’d rather play your five/four best rather than your six/five best? Or did Georgia just have more awesome players than Michigan? I think one day there will be enough good football players to answer this question, but I don’t really feel like that’s the case now. Also, how much does this change in the more challenging games? I didn't have enough time to figure that out.

See you all later this week for around the Big Ten stats!

Comments

kyle.aaronson

October 17th, 2023 at 12:26 AM ^

Totally agree. I just wonder where the diminishing returns are. At how many snaps is a defensive lineman maximally effective? Obviously, it's different for each player (I'm sure Mason Graham can, at this point, handle a higher snap count better than Kenneth Grant), but if there are (say) 100 DT snaps to go around in a game, can we give Graham and Jenkins 40 each and give Grant the other 20? Or is that too much workload, and it makes sense to throw Benny out there for 10.

I just went and looked at the snap counts for Georgia's championship win over Alabama in 2021. The Georgia defense was on the field for 87 snaps and 361 defensive linemen snaps (4.15 per snap).

  • They basically played 3.5 edges.
    • Travon Walker (75 snaps, 46 outside)
    • Nolan Smith (60 snaps, 57 outside)
    • Robert Beal Jr. (29 snaps, all outside)
    • Tramel Walthour (12 snaps, 10 outside)
  • They put their LBs on the edge sometimes, too.
    • Channing Tindall (15 snaps outside)
    • Quay Walker (12 snaps outside)
  • They basically played 3.5 edges, too.
    • Devonte Wyatt (48 snaps inside)
    • Jordan Davis (47 snaps inside)
    • Jalen Carter (46 snaps, 44 inside)
    • Travon Walker (75 snaps, 27 inside)

I guess this means maybe we're half a guy short inside and half a guy up outside? (Obviously, YMMV on certain players.) It's almost certain that Michigan isn't going to be in a game with 87 defensive snaps (clock rules, style of play, etc) that they also have a chance to win, IMO. If it's a 70 play game, can Graham and Jenkins go 55 each and the other 30 go to Grant?

I dunno, man.

Tex_Ind_Blue

October 18th, 2023 at 1:30 AM ^

I think the coaches are always tinkering with of usage of various players, especially the DL. Keeping them "fresh" is on to Herbert and to some extent the nutritionist I suppose. 

You are right, every player handles the game and snaps differently. I don't recall anyone trying to tempo Michigan this year, has anyone? That might be keeping them fresh as well. 

To me very illustrative would be UGA-OSU and UGA-TCU games. How did they adjust from a rockfight to a blowout? How did Michigan do against TCU and what was different from the Purdue-Michigan game? 

DesertGoBlue

October 16th, 2023 at 1:43 PM ^

Great data, thank you for taking the time to compile all of this. 

The Corum data is interesting. I realize you're already putting in a ton of work to generate the above, but if you're taking requests, a Corum graph by game that layers in YPC could be enlightening. 

Thanks again! 

DesertGoBlue

October 17th, 2023 at 5:31 PM ^

Yes, was thinking Y/C for each game. That might help demonstrate the actual workload by game. You could get extra fancy and break out explosive runs in a double bar graph format, as in Y/C on runs > 20 yards (is that the cutoff for "explosive"?) and Y/C all others. I think that would call out how much wear and tear Corum experienced running into a +1 box for <3 YPC last year, which my memory recalls happening more often than one would want. 

Generally, it feels like we're setting less downs on fire this year by running straight into a stacked box. This might help illustrate whether that is accurate. 

Thanks again! 

4th phase

October 16th, 2023 at 1:46 PM ^

Another point of comparison to Georgia. Their sp+ ratings last year were 37.3 overall, 42.3 offense, 6.7 defense.

Michigan right now is 25.1 overall, 38.2 offense, and 13.5 defense. 

Puts in perspective just how dominant Georgia was last year.

k.o.k.Law

October 16th, 2023 at 2:02 PM ^

Did you check defensive team plays per game?

Guessing that GA defense being on the field for more plays accounts for that difference.

Meaning, if our D were on for more plays, we might have more D line with 10 or more

plays per game.

:)

Good stuff, thanks!

kyle.aaronson

October 16th, 2023 at 5:27 PM ^

I absolutely meant to and then I absolutely forgot. Here they are:

  • 2021 Georgia: 15 games, 1,003 snaps, 66.9 snaps/game
  • 2023 Michigan: 7 games, 386 snaps, 55.1 snaps/game

I suppose you could make the case that more snaps means more guys getting to 10+ per game, but it could also be that if they were facing more snaps it means the other team is scoring more cause they're on the field more, and thus the games are closer so we'd just end up giving more snaps to our better guys rather than our fourth stringers.

kyle.aaronson

October 17th, 2023 at 12:28 AM ^

This is arithmetic I probably won't get around to doing, but it's a good question.

Also, good point with "bend but don't break," but I think the same general logic applies. Games are going to be closer if the other team is on the field longer because they may not necessarily score more, but our offense will be on the field less frequently, and thus our score will be lower.

Soulfire21

October 16th, 2023 at 4:45 PM ^

It's wild to me that the team performed terribly in the 1st Q, down 0-7 at the end, and Tuttle still managed to get a pass in the 3rd Q (or maybe the very beginning of the 4th, whatever it was).

What a thorough annihilation it was during the 2nd and 3rd quarters. If we played that well in the 1st, we'd have scored about 70 on them.

MGlobules

October 16th, 2023 at 7:37 PM ^

That notion of Corum being 'optimized' at a certain number of carries. . . I like it. But what kind of data do we have that says it's a thing? Is it really a thing? I take it that the idea is that that was the point at which he was breaking the longest runs, working most efficiently. How do we further operationalize this idea? Can we?

drjaws

October 17th, 2023 at 3:00 AM ^

The only logical conclusion is that when Michigan plays Maryland (32nd in SP+), they’ll win by about 37 points, and when Michigan plays Ohio State (2nd) and Penn State (8th), they’ll win by about 40. That’s just how growth works.

from your lips (fingers?) to Gods ears  

TeslaRedVictorBlue

October 18th, 2023 at 11:14 AM ^

Other Penix vs. Mccarthy thoughts:

1. Penix has played better teams, and his stats hold up.

2. Penix has played in closer games, hence, he plays more of the game. 

3. By the end of the season, Penix will play in more competitive games, W or L, than McCarthy and the games that are competitive for McCarthy will be defense focused (PSU and OSU), whereas, the Pac12 clashes are mainly offensive focused. So Penix will keep putting up 350 yard, 4 td days win or loss. If JJ does that against his tough competition, we win the day easily.

4. Volume does matter. You put yards per attempt to show that he's equally efficient with his throws in terms of distance, but he's thrown for 800 more yards.

5. 800 yards and 6 tds and 0 picks - the DIFFERENCE between them, would be a welcome addition to many teams as their primary QBs #s. 

kyle.aaronson

October 18th, 2023 at 12:50 PM ^

1. Better teams. Per DF+:

  • McCarthy's played these defenses: 81st, 101st, 96th, 31st, 26th, 41st, 80th (65.1)
  • Penix's played these defenses: 89th, 84th, 36th, 63rd, 60th, 20th (avg. 58.7)

Yes, Penix has played slightly better defenses on average. Barely.

2. Yup. Can't disagree. Penix has played in two close games (Arizona and Oregon). McCarthy's played in none.

3. Yup. Also can't disagree with that. Penix will play in ~five close games (based on rankings) and McCarthy will play in ~two-and-a-half close games. He also has one good defense remaining on his schedule (Utah at 7th in DF+). McCarthy has (YMMV) two-and-two-halves (MSU [36th], PSU [2nd], Maryland [27th], OSU [6th]). McCarthy shouldn't have to put up Penix numbers to take the lead in Heisman votes from him––but he will have to.

4. I apologize if I implied volume doesn't matter. I agree that it does. I just think efficiency matters more, especially when you've thus far played in a lot of blowout games (as both teams do).

The reason I put Y/A was because the chart was about efficiency, not about volume. Y/A is an efficiency stat. Yards is a volume stat. If all the efficiency stats are the same, and the competition at the end of the year is the same (it's not, as Michigan will end up playing several more much better defenses on average), then the QB with more volume should win.

Also worth pointing out that Washington, by rate, throws the third most in the FBS at 66.0%. Michigan's at 44.6%. If Michigan threw as much as Washington and kept McCarthy in the game for as long, his volume stats would be basically the same.

5. See all the above. Washington throws more, which leads to that difference. Penix plays more, which leads to that difference. They've basically played an equal slate re: other teams' defenses. You also can't just say, "Well, Penix has more passing yards," without looking at rushing yards. Penix is part of an offense. He's not an offense in his own right. Wouldn't a lot of teams also be just as happy having a successful and strong rushing attack like Michigan's? I bet a lot of teams would be happy to have the murderer's row of WRs like Rome Odunze, Ja'Lynn Polk, and Jalen McMillan like Washington has to help out their QB.

In a vacuum, yeah, teams would like to have Penix's stats more, but we're not in a vacuum.