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Brian March 18th, 2021 at 3:52 PM

The gap.

This is a fascinating question. I'm going to leave out guys who saw their careers derailed by injury (Antonio Bass, Tarik Black) and also guys who the recruiting industry airballed on (Kevin Grady, Derrick Green) and limit this folks who clearly had something to offer and did not get to display it for whatever reason:

  1. Devin Gardner. Gardner looked like a Heisman contender at certain points (ND UTL II, the two point conversion game against OSU) and was battered to pulp by the worst pass protection of all time at all other points. Not too hard to see him in the NFL if he hadn't ascended to nirvana in the middle of an MSU game.
  2. Ernest Shazor. Electric hitter, five star recruit, repeatedly ran the wrong way at incredible rates of speed. He must have had some personal issues because he went from a projected second-round pick to completely undraftable in a couple months in which no football was being played.
  3. Donovan Peoples-Jones. Five star wide receiver with massive athletic talent who saw his QB exit the pocket repeatedly and avoid downfield shots even when they were blitheringly wide open. Might as well file Nico "60 targets" Collins in here too.
  4. Denard Robinson. Had just established himself as the most electric player in college football when Brady Hoke came in and brought in a guy who wanted to put him under center. Nerve injury had a lot to do with his late-career fade, too, but seeing Denard run a waggle will remain a crime against man and panda forever.
  5. Evan Smotrycz. Smotrycz was coming off a 53/44 shooting year and was a career 41% three point shooter on ~200 attempts when he decided to transfer to Maryland. A major reason for this was the fact that he got drafted into playing a bunch of center, which he openly loathed. He ended up being redundant with Jake Layman at Maryland and faded into being a bench player as a senior. There's an alternate Smotrycz history where he gets to be a stretch four under Beilein for four years and has an absurdly efficient statline as an upperclassman.

Protests?

That's impossible to project but I do feel like that day is coming closer every year. Getting garbage meals while quarantined in a hotel so that everyone except you gets paid buckets of cash does seem like a potential tipping point. At some point a team is going to realize that they have a considerable

I've advocated for teams to adopt a mini-boycott where they don't play for 15 minutes—and if the network cuts to commercial the counter starts over. That would be a wake-up call that could escalate if necessary.

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Space lawyer asks about earthly concerns.

Asking a blogger about pants is like asking an elephant about tank tops. I am familiar with the term but see no application to my situation, whether there's a pandemic or not. So yeah be a lawyer in a track suit, I'm sure it will go fine. You will get many clients and judges will remark on your casual, comfortable efficiency.

Freaky Saturday.

Every team in both sports would get massively worse except for Michigan State basketball, which already plays football, and Purdue football, which already plays basketball. Ohio State fans would commit atrocities beyond belief outside of a Fogo de Chao in suburban Chicago. Northwestern basketball would win the Big Ten title by winning 11 overtime games 35-32. Iowa fans heads would explode as their football team turns into #chaosteam-era Indiana and their basketball team runs a precisely regimented offense that does not realize there is a three point line. Nothing would happen at Wisconsin.

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[Campredon]

Self-abuse for wins.

Is he pretending that he's doing a basketball at the time? If so, yes. You can only get so much velocity in while also badly missing a layup. That would be temporarily painful but unlikely to do any lasting damage. Also the angles are all wrong so I think this is a glancing blow.

If he is loading up specifically to disintegrate my sous vide and croquettes, no. I shudder to think what kind of carnage Brad Davison could do unbound by the specter of a flagrant 2.

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[Campredon]

The Johnsening.

For a given definition of "breakout," sure. I'd be just fine with Johns recapturing his sophomore form. He's has been marginalized this year but last year he was a highly effective bench player. In Big Ten play he shot 64/38 and had a TO rate just over 10, and that was in over 20 MPG. The only slight drawback was his usage, which was in role player territory at 15%.

This year most of his numbers have declined because Livers has been available and Franz can't be benched for long stretches. Johns has always been mercurial, a guy who seems more prone to big performance swings than most, and I think the sparing playing time has affected him. He has trouble finding his way into games when he's only playing a handful of minutes.

There seemed to be a shift when he got the start against OSU. He got to the line four times by backing down his opponents and hit 21% usage by creating a lot of his own shots. That's a new level of aggression for him, one that he should be able to maintain into the tournament because he's not going to meet a lot of 4s who aren't going to be vulnerable to that.

Johns is also a 36% three point shooter and should be able to absorb kickouts that were going to Livers without a disastrous drop in efficiency. I think it's 60/40 against that he performs well enough to spur a deep tourney run and people start talking about him like the presumptive starting 4 next year.

COVID returns?

Given the composition of the team next year and the fact that young point guards often struggle, Smith is the pick. Livers is the best player of those four but Michigan is bringing in a plug-and-play stretch four in Caleb Houstan and should have a senior Brandon Johns back. Also you're probably going to get some Moussa Diabate minutes at the 4. If Smith does not return the point guard will either be a sophomore Zeb Jackson or freshman Frankie Collins. That would be asking a lot, especially since Collins is coming off a disjointed, strange final high school season that hasn't seen him play many games.

Smith is also the most likely to come back. Livers tested draft waters last year and has a real shot as a 3&D wing in the league. Brown's in the same boat. Brooks and Smith don't have NBA aspirations, but Brooks has been around the block in four years at Michigan. Smith hasn't actually gotten to have a high-major season where there are people in the stands.

Zombie Wisconsin.

No, but only because Micah Potter and Greg Gard want to throttle each other.

Hockey retention.

This is pretty much the question about the hockey team as long as it keeps recruiting like this. Michigan has recruited so well that they're going to have four players in the top ten and could have three in the top five. Players who go that high are often signed by their teams immediately even if they end up playing in the AHL for much or all of their first year as a professional. This isn't a certainty, though: the Red Wings left #4 overall pick Lucas Raymond in Sweden and #5 overall pick Jake Sanderson matriculated at North Dakota.

The thing Michigan needs to do is hang onto their high-end stars until they have a blow-out Hobey year and only lose them after that. Or at least some of them. This class is particularly well-suited to do that because three of their four top-end prospects are already on campus and are the kinds of players what teams might leave in college for another year. Owen Power is a defenseman, and D usually take more time. Kent Johnson is ultra-skilled but needs a year of physical development. Matt Beniers is maybe the most ready since he's a 200-foot player but his size may mean an immediate jump isn't in the cards. I'm not expecting everyone back but neither am I expecting that Michigan will lose all of those guys.

Meanwhile they've got folks who project as two or three year college players: Brisson, Bordeleau, Truscott, and incoming recruits Ethan Edwards, Dylan Duke, and Mackie Samoskevich are all guys who have been or will be drafted in the late first to fourth rounds, which puts them in a sweet spot where they have high end talent and enough flaws that they'll stick around Ann Arbor for a while.

This is going to a be a pivotal Michigan Hockey summer. The good news is that they've stockpiled so much talent that they can take some hits and expect to go into next year as one of the best teams in the country.

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Comments

Sultans17

March 18th, 2021 at 8:09 PM ^

 Brad Davidson and my jewels?  Of course, how many times?

I have discussed something similar (but far worse) with my kid. Doesn't matter how humiliating or gross said act is: I'd perform it in front of the Cube for however long the Gods of College Football deem necessary to ensure Michigan wins a Natty. 

 I told my son I wanted to do it anonymously,  cover of darkness etc. He vehemently disagreed: "Dad you'll be the guy who did that to get us a National Championship! You'll go down as one of the greatest Michigan Men ever!" 

He is right. Put it on ESPN. I want a statue commemorating it in the Diag. 

Go Blue!
 

bo_lives

March 18th, 2021 at 9:17 PM ^

Gardner's performance in 2013 vs. OSU was the single most heroic game I have ever seen from a player at a sporting event I attended live. I rank it above 2004's Braylonfest and Denard's 2nd half in UTL 1. I had zero expectations Michigan would stay in the game against an 11-0 Urban Meyer-led OSU. That 2013 Michigan team was a play away from losing to Akron, had -48 yards rushing yards against MSU, suffered the infamous 27 for 27 3OT loss to PSU, and beat Northwestern on the only fire drill field goal to ever work in football history. The image of Gardner shedding tears as he limped off the field with a broken foot still crushes my soul to this day. Curse you Al Borges, may you rot in a personal hell consisting of an endless press conference, where a thousand Heikos ask repeated questions about bubble screens from now until eternity.

WolverineHistorian

March 19th, 2021 at 7:41 AM ^

The Northwestern game was where Gardner should have been picked off at least 7 times, 2 of which would have been easy pick sixes.  But those NU defenders dropped every single one. 

My prediction before the OSU game was we would lose 42-3.  I was right about OSU scoring 42 but never dreamed we'd scored 41 and a failed two point conversion. 

Those offensive lines will haunt me the rest of my life. The pain level was equal to watching RichRod's defenses (how many more times could the secondary give up a 30 yard pass on 3rd down & 10?) 

Gardner was easy to root for.  He not only was a great athlete but a great student and an amazingly nice person in every interview I saw him.  I would have given anything for him to have a different script in regards to his playing career. 

DeepBlueC

March 18th, 2021 at 10:03 PM ^

Drew Henson.  Great athlete, massively hyped recruit. Unimpressive as a freshman, mediocre as a sophomore, injured part of the season as a junior and was good to very good, but never great when he did play.  Then left early to play baseball.  One of the most disappointing careers in my memory. 

WolverineHistorian

March 19th, 2021 at 8:16 AM ^

Henson played so little as a freshman, is it really fair to say he looked unimpressive?  He came in at the end of four games, two of which where we were getting blown out and two where we up 6 touchdowns.  He didn't play at all in 6 games and only came in for a play or two in the rest.  You're basically judging him on 7 rushing attempts for 67 yards and 41 pass attempts for 254 yards in 13 total games.

As a sophomore, again, he didn't play in 5 games and only played the second quarter in 3. 

Him not coming back his senior year was painful as hell.  So yeah, it's a disappointing overall career.  But those several games during his junior year after his injury were some of the best quarterback-ing we have had.

 

 

 

Yinka Double Dare

March 18th, 2021 at 10:27 PM ^

Smarter teams would at least consider leaving a guy in college for an extra year if at a good development place while the NHL team continues to stink and racks up another high pick. You could, say, draft Jonathan Toews and leave him at NoDak, suck again, and pick Patrick Kane the next year, and bring them in at the same time. 

Of course teams at the top of the draft are often bad because their front office is also dinguses, so...

PopeLando

March 19th, 2021 at 12:14 PM ^

Gardner definitely will take the top What If spot forever.

If we disqualify OL as being basically non-projectable talents, I'd like to submit two recent names for consideration: Ian Bunting and Rashan Gary.

Bunting was a huge person who flashed serious potential early then spent his entire career unable to crack the starting lineup.

Rashan Gary spent his career being shafted by a lack of DT/NT recruiting, then being double-teamed out of the play. He deserved better and I'm glad he gets a pro career.