Warde confirms no UM athletes can resume operations this week (even if no positive tests)
Link: https://www.mlive.com/wolverines/2021/02/michigan-basketball-wont-return-to-action-this-week.html
Definitive statement.
February 1st, 2021 at 5:08 PM ^
Rats. Be safe kids.
February 1st, 2021 at 5:12 PM ^
Hopefully none of the athletes test positive for COVID-19 after this 2 week shutdown. A full month away would be terrible for them.
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February 1st, 2021 at 5:14 PM ^
What a stooge. Players sitting out for no reason. Great advocate for the student athletes.
February 1st, 2021 at 5:26 PM ^
Get an outdoor hobby
February 1st, 2021 at 5:29 PM ^
Love your priorities. Really well informed.
February 1st, 2021 at 5:40 PM ^
Please explain the logic behind having healthy players who test negative sit out for 2+ weeks. Would love to hear you "dumb it down" for me.
February 1st, 2021 at 7:51 PM ^
i would "dumb it down," but in suggesting that there's "no reason" for athletes to sit out for another week you've already dumbed it down plenty.
February 1st, 2021 at 7:54 PM ^
What's the reason then? Please enlighten me because no one seems to have a rational explanation for it.
February 1st, 2021 at 9:08 PM ^
There’s this thing called an incubation period with viruses. They have found the virus can have an incubation period of 14 days. Ergo, testing positive 10 days later does not in fact guarantee you don’t ha e it. That dumb enough for you?
February 1st, 2021 at 9:30 PM ^
Yes. The original UM athlete that brought the UK strain to Michigan tested negative for several days before testing positive. That person did not quarantine after traveling here from the UK. The UK strain had already spread to several other people before 'patient 0' tested positive.
I've been following the covid cases in Michigan. Cases have been steadily going down across almost all counties in Michigan except Washtenaw which has been trending up
Web site with covid info by county: https://covidactnow.org/us/michigan-mi/?s=1566506
February 1st, 2021 at 10:03 PM ^
I know what an incubation period is, thank you. The median incubation period is 5 days, and 98% of people will test positive 11 days after exposure which is about how long its been since the athletic department shut down. So the odds of the virus having infected the basketball team with everyone continuing to stay asymptomatic and test negative at this point is incredibly low. Nice try though.
February 1st, 2021 at 10:19 PM ^
Those statistics are from the original version of the virus and we are still learning about the uk variant. And when dealing with a novel virus it is much better to be safe than sorry. What exactly is the big rush to play sports on day 12 instead of day 15? How is that worth the risk? Also it’s possible only one basketball player has it, but if you bring them back then it spreads, this avoids that. The basketball team and other sports each are their own individual risk, it’s not some cumulative thing there none of them testing positive makes it less likely any of them have it individually.
February 1st, 2021 at 10:41 PM ^
Come on. You think one player came into contact with one of the infected athletes, didn't spread it to anyone else on the team during practices or games prior to the AD shutdown, and now is continuing to not exhibit any symptoms or test positive? No, this is an instance of the university and AD fucking up by letting an athlete travel to the UK in the first place, not making said athlete quarantine upon return to the country, and now they're trying to cover their asses. But all they're doing is revealing that they have no faith in the current protocols being used and they're punishing a bunch of teams that have done everything right and are no more likely to have come in contact with the infected athletes than the general population considering they don't share facilities.
February 1st, 2021 at 5:35 PM ^
You know, criticize this specific decision all you want, but can we please not refer to a pandemic that has killed nearly half a million Americans so far as "no reason"?
February 1st, 2021 at 5:37 PM ^
Is that what I was doing? No it's not. If the players are testing negative there is no reason they shouldn't play just cuz someone else in the gigantic athletic department has the virus.
February 1st, 2021 at 5:42 PM ^
I'm not against sitting out these two weeks, but if the number of people killed in the pandemic in the US is the reason for doing so, then we should have never started the season in the first place and we should probably just shut it down now.
Point is, we have to learn to live with this thing forever likely (at least according to Moderna), and we've done a good job doing so. We probably could have started up with week without issue, but are taking an overly cautious approach. Again, I'm not against it, but I fully understand the stance of those who want to get back to it, which includes the very athletes we root for.
February 1st, 2021 at 5:48 PM ^
One or two more weeks of penance should make a dent guys, come on.
February 1st, 2021 at 5:51 PM ^
We don't have to live with this shit forever.
https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1356079020878786561?s=20
The vaccines are 100% effective at preventing hospitalizations and deaths. 75,000 people got vaccines during various trials. So far, zero died of Covid, zero died of the vaccine and zero went to the hospital due to Covid. This includes people exposed to the variants. Once the J&J vaccine is approved, we will have enough to vaccinate everyone by the end of June. The end is in sight.
February 1st, 2021 at 6:13 PM ^
I’m with ya, man! I’m very optimistic with regards to the vaccine and how it will help us get back to normal (whatever that means).
However, this virus is doing something peculiar. It’s mutating into strains that are more virulent. Thankfully, data is showing that the current vaccines should suffice in efficacy against a couple of these new strains.
I think when Moderna says that we’ll likely have to live with this forever, they mean we’ll have to get yearly shots like we do with the Flu and H1N1 (which are phasing out anyway).
February 1st, 2021 at 6:59 PM ^
It's not really peculiar. This is what viruses do. They mutate into more virulent, less deadly versions all the time. It's how the virus finds a way to continue to survive.
February 1st, 2021 at 7:19 PM ^
It’s very peculiar if it’s a nature made virus. Not very peculiar it if the virus was made in a lab under “gain of function” research. Here are a couple Michigan grads talking it over:
February 1st, 2021 at 7:29 PM ^
Coronaviruses are RNA viruses, which means they mutate. Being nature made has nothing to do with it.
It's been proven over and over again that this was not made in a lab.
February 1st, 2021 at 7:40 PM ^
No it’s had not been proven over and over again that it was not made in a lab. Did you watch the video?
February 1st, 2021 at 7:50 PM ^
I wasn't going to waste my time after you said it's very peculiar for a nature made virus to mutate. That's so far from being true that I know the video is a waste of my time. From Healthline:
“In the world of RNA viruses, change is the norm. We expect RNA viruses to change frequently. That’s just their nature,” said Dr. Mark Schleiss, a pediatric infectious disease specialist and investigator with the Institute for Molecular Virology at the University of Minnesota.
SARS-CoV-2 is no exception, and over the past few months it has been mutating.
But the virus has mutated at a very slow pace. And when it does mutate, the new copies aren’t far off from the original virus.
“The sequences of the original isolates from China are very close to those in viruses circulating in the U.S. and the rest of the world,” said Dr. John Rose, a senior research scientist in the department of pathology at Yale Medicine who’s helping develop a COVID-19 vaccine.
February 1st, 2021 at 7:57 PM ^
I never said "it's very peculiar for a nature made virus to mutate". Please re-read my post and get back to me. And maybe then watch the video - again, its two Michigan grads talking about it so its not like its a horrible source.
February 1st, 2021 at 8:01 PM ^
These are your exact words in response to me saying it's not peculiar for a virus to mutate:
"It’s very peculiar if it’s a nature made virus. Not very peculiar it if the virus was made in a lab under “gain of function” research."
February 1st, 2021 at 8:09 PM ^
I don't think you understand the what the word "exact" means. Here are my exact words (copy and paste) from above (emphasis mine):
"However, this virus is doing something peculiar. It’s mutating into strains that are more virulent."
I never once said that the virus doesn't mutate. The quote you copied is referring to the concept of virus mutating to more virulent strains or not.
February 1st, 2021 at 8:11 PM ^
In a paper titled “The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2” published in Nature in March, scientists with Scripps Research who studied the genome sequence of the virus concluded that it originated through natural processes. By looking at the virus’s molecular structure, they were able to determine that the backbone of the virus differed from coronaviruses already known to scientists and rather it resembled viruses found in bats and pangolins.
Scientists have said that if the virus was made in a lab then its structure would reveal that it would have been created from viruses that are already known and there would be signs of manipulation.
“These two features of the virus, the mutations in the RBD portion of the spike protein and its distinct backbone, rules out laboratory manipulation as a potential origin for SARS-CoV-2,” Kristian Andersen, an associate professor of immunology and microbiology at Scripps Research and one of the authors of the paper, said in a news release in March.
Link to the paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9
February 1st, 2021 at 8:23 PM ^
I'm calling myself out on my moment of Monday dumb. I was using virulent to mean more contagious. That's wrong. I know this. I'm going to go have Woodson whiskey in peace now.
February 1st, 2021 at 8:56 PM ^
So...we cool?
February 1st, 2021 at 9:05 PM ^
We never weren't. No vitriol from me whatsoever. We just disagree on the nature vs lab side.
February 1st, 2021 at 7:05 PM ^
I’m in almost complete agreement with you up until your last two sentences. The hospital I work for has completed vaccinations for everyone that wanted them. Unfortunately, only 50% of the staff received the vaccine. I fear that the general population will be even less than those who work in medicine and I hope I’m wrong. If only half of the population who is eligible to receive this does so then we’re going to be dealing with this and it’s consequences for a much longer time than people want to admit. Please people, do your research and hopefully you’ll make the choice to get vaccinated when you have the chance
February 1st, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
50% of the country will probably do their research on YouTube.
February 1st, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
What State are you in? Colorado had 90% acceptance among health care workers. I agree that the people who refuse the vaccine will be a problem. This will be unpopular but they should fire everyone who refuses the vaccine if they work in healthcare.
February 1st, 2021 at 7:34 PM ^
I’m in West Virginia, and yes, I did expect numbers to be down here. I’m very glad to hear that numbers in Colorado (and other states) are seeing such compliance from healthcare workers. Our numbers were actually closer to 40% but they announced a “last call” and a significant amount of holdouts decided to get it once they realized they’d have to go through the health department in order to receive it in the future
February 1st, 2021 at 8:04 PM ^
On the flip side WV is doing an excellent job in administering vaccines. I believe you lead the nation in percentage of vaccines received that have been administered
February 2nd, 2021 at 11:21 AM ^
If a person chooses not to get vaccinated, they take the risk upon themselves. That includes every person who made that choice. Those who chose to take the vaccine are safe, so what does it matter if a certain amount of the population wants to risk their lives. They made the choice, it's their life. Doesn't affect one person who is vaccinated.
February 1st, 2021 at 5:58 PM ^
Basically, everyone is going to have to learn to live with it until they get older and have serious underlying health conditions. People make it sound like this virus is killing the young and healthy and most fit only
February 1st, 2021 at 5:58 PM ^
Basically, everyone is going to have to learn to live with it until they get older and have serious underlying health conditions. People make it sound like this virus is killing the young and healthy and most fit only
February 1st, 2021 at 8:20 PM ^
This is a situation where it’s better to be safe then sorry. The virus has mutated to more contagious variants and possibly even a little more deadly. Until we can get enough people vaccinated it’s always prudent to be a little more cautious. One more week of no sports is not the end of the world
February 1st, 2021 at 7:20 PM ^
Yet football and basketball and hockey and .... every other sport decided to play anyway.
February 2nd, 2021 at 12:29 AM ^
Such little logic from so many of you. Everyone is wearing a mask. The players are already isolated as it is. How many of the dead are college-aged athletes? I mean, they can't at least workout on the court in isolation? Where has common sense gone? Seriously.
February 2nd, 2021 at 8:29 AM ^
They would be unbelievably fucked in a lawsuit if something were to happen and they didn't follow the MDHHS suggestion.
February 1st, 2021 at 5:21 PM ^
Two weeks of no practice and they will struggle for a week or two at least when they return. What are these players doing during this shutdown? Does anyone know if, how and where they are working out/staying in shape?
February 1st, 2021 at 5:24 PM ^
Each student athlete has been given a Bowflex and a Shake Weight. Looking forward to seeing the gains next week.
February 1st, 2021 at 5:48 PM ^
Major improvement in Call of Duty Warzone scores!!
February 1st, 2021 at 6:35 PM ^
Basketball players don't know how to use those...
February 1st, 2021 at 6:37 PM ^
Please throw in a Suzanne Somers thighmaster....just not with Charles.
February 1st, 2021 at 5:34 PM ^
Yeah, safety is obviously the top priority but this really stinks for the Men' BB and Men's Hockey teams. Both teams were really playing well. Who knows how much rust will need to be knocked off when they get back to playing. Plus you have to consider the fatigue factor of cramming games missed into the remaining part of the calendar before tourney season starts.