Scam?: 2016 tickets are on Stubhub before the A.D. ticket release

Submitted by CarrIsMyHomeboy on

Greetings guys!

(This thread will inevitably annoy someone. That's too bad. I am faintly apologetic...and now let's move on.) I'm writing you because Stubhub is already displaying tickets for the 2016 season. And, yet, if my observations on this mgoblue page are correct, then 2016 tickets are yet to go on sale (i.e., they will roll out from mid-June to early-July).

I suspect these are the two likeliest options: (a) there is an additional source of tickets (could season ticket holders have possibly received theirs by now?) or (b) the "tickets" presently on display are fraudulent.

I'm getting married on July 2 and--well in advance of that date--I prefer to buy six of these for my groomsmen and myself. Basically: Is this possible? Can these tickets' legitimacy be confirmed pre-purchase? Should I take the plunge?

Thank you in advance for your time and thought.

WindyCityBlue

May 1st, 2016 at 5:59 PM ^

Or...

...season ticket holders re-upped and requested the exact same seats they had last year (like me). Most likely did this. At this point, they can easily sell their season tickets now, and deliver the product in July/August.



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James Burrill Angell

May 1st, 2016 at 6:54 PM ^

It's quite simple. I have had the same tickets for years and years and when I renew both my PSD in Dec/Jan and pay for my tickets in April, my same tickets are referenced in the renewal for each. Accordingly I know what seats I have and could theoretically sell them on stubhub though I wouldn't be able to grant delivery until August when they're mailed out.

LSAClassOf2000

May 1st, 2016 at 7:14 PM ^

I've done this with Tigers tickets too when I've had the packages. It's relatively easy to do and very useful when you know well in advance that you won't be able to go to certain games - my wife has the "family calendar" out 12 months, so I've become well-acquainted with the phrase "you won't be going to that game", which is usually followed by the phrase "why the hell not?" because I start off with no clue.

bacon

May 1st, 2016 at 6:01 PM ^

I don't know anything, but it could also be people who are season ticket holder who know they will have tickets and will send them once they arrive?  I thought stubhub guarantees the tickets anyway.

michchip

May 1st, 2016 at 6:02 PM ^

Nothing will be solidified until you receive the tickets, and even at that point the seller can still pull back (I think) 60 days after purchase.

These are all very likely ticket holders listing their tickets prior to receiving them. Tickets usually don't get mailed out until August.

jdon

May 1st, 2016 at 7:18 PM ^

true story.

my wife gets tickets to britney spears opening night in vegas.

 Tickets don't work.

we call stubhub.

they get us two new tickets.  

we get in and since they were cheaper tickets we get the money back.

stubhub said they would chase down the seller.

 

long story short: stubhub backs the tickets.

jdon

 

mzdmv

May 1st, 2016 at 6:37 PM ^

They're called specs. Ticket brokers list them early to get orders to later fill when the tickets are on sale. You can order them, but don't expect any delivery until much closer to game date. 

Muttley

May 1st, 2016 at 7:01 PM ^

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortgage-backed_security#TBAs

 

The distinguishing feature of a TBA transaction is that the actual identity of the securities to be delivered at settlement is not specified on the date of execution (“Trade Date”). Instead, the parties to the trade agree on only five general parameters of the securities to be delivered: issuer, mortgage type, maturity, coupon, and month of settlement.

Although, this seems more futures/forward market-like.

I'm surprised by the comment above that one side (the seller) can cancel. What's the point from the buyer's perspective of agreeing to a price today if the seller can cancel if prevailing prices go up?

mzdmv

May 2nd, 2016 at 11:16 AM ^

Pretty much exactly that.

I'm surprised by the seller being able to cancel as well because it causes Stubhub PR nightmares like what happened with someone who bought tickets to Kobe's last game before he announced his retirement. It must be there to appease high-volume sellers whose business is generally all automated so a significant event might cause a demand spike and their tickets would sell before the brokers could adjust their listings.

ztrain2323

May 1st, 2016 at 8:19 PM ^

Unless they request a change of seats season ticket holders know there seats already so they can list the tickets now and aren't required to ship them or input the barcodes until they receive them.

Clarence Beeks

May 1st, 2016 at 8:24 PM ^

Playoff hockey tickets work the same way, by the way. They even put up prospective tickets for dates before the series dates are announced. For example, you could buy a ticket hoping that game one is on Tuesday, and if it is you're good to go, but if it isn't then you get your money back.



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umbig11

May 1st, 2016 at 9:21 PM ^

A) there is no source of additional tickets B) they are not fraudulent They belong to season ticket holders that have paid their PSD and ticket renewals. So, yes you can buy these tickets with confidence.

CarrIsMyHomeboy

May 2nd, 2016 at 12:40 AM ^

I didn't foresee season tickets hitting the market place in advance of their print date. No doubt. But despite my naivety on that, "future" season tickets are obviously a source of tickets in addition to the individuals ones set to go on sale in six weeks. 

That folds into option A. I mean...I explicitly specified "season ticket holders" as a hypothetical explanation.

Mr. Yost

May 1st, 2016 at 9:21 PM ^

I'm looking for 2 tickets to the Michigan/UCF game. Any way to check what tickets sold for UNLV, BYU, etc. last year?

Right now I'm seeing a lot at $60-70/per ticket. I'm trying to figure out if that's a good price or if I should wait until we get closer to the season.

Kevin13

May 2nd, 2016 at 11:18 AM ^

as I was wondering the same thing. I have only bought from Stub Hub once, but it was for a game that was a week out. I am planning on coming out for the CU game with some buddies and I heard Stub Hub already had tickets on sale. I was unsure about buying yet as the tickets actually haven't hit the market yet or even been sent out to season ticket holders.