Penn St at Michigan kickoff time TBD until noon ET on 09/18/16
The Penn State at Michigan football game on September 24 will kick off at a time TBD, will be determined Sunday, 09/18/16. Usually 12 days before the game at least the time is announced, but the 6-day hold was implemented for this one. Those traveling or making plans, be sure to check the time by noon eastern time on Sunday 09/18; it'll be determined no later than that.
Link: https://twitter.com/GoPSUKris/status/775360476293238784
September 12th, 2016 at 12:27 PM ^
Wisconsin MSU and PSU Michigan are the two clear marquee Big Ten games in week 4. Have to think they will both be 3:30 on ABC and ESPN/2.
September 12th, 2016 at 12:46 PM ^
I was thinking the same thing. I will be at that game so I am hoping for a 3:30 start. It is the one weekend a year I get to hang out with my best friend. Always fun to get a good 7 hours of tailgating in.
I also thought maybe Wisc/MSU could be a night game, but I think that probably would have had to have been determined long ago.
September 12th, 2016 at 1:22 PM ^
September 12th, 2016 at 12:51 PM ^
I think if that were true, they'd give the ok to announce kickoff time, no? Stanford and UCLA has been announced as the late game. I wouldn't be shocked if we're looking at one Big Ten game as a regional ABC/ESPN 2 split with Big 12 at 3:30, an ACC game on ESPN at 3:30 and the other Big Ten game on ABC or ESPN at 12:00.
September 12th, 2016 at 1:06 PM ^
ABC can't put 2 Big Ten games at 3:30 on ABC/ESPN/2. Most weeks the #2 choice ends up on ABC or ESPN at noon.
It is extremely likely in this case that the #1 pick is 3:30 ABC, and the #2 pick is noon ABC. I doubt very much that ABC would show #2 on ESPN (ABC doesn't have any other noon games for that time slot other than Florida State/South Florida right now).
September 12th, 2016 at 1:12 PM ^
Sparty wins, they get the afternoon slot.
ND wins, PSU/UM gets the afternoon slot.
I mean, unless PSU loses to Temple...
September 12th, 2016 at 1:15 PM ^
Assume all four win this weekend - which game gets better national ratings? A top 10 matchup or Michigan vs. a one loss Penn St.
Also, do you know where he BTN fits into the selection order?
September 12th, 2016 at 1:20 PM ^
If all four win, I'd think Wisconsin-MSU gets priority. Michigan-Penn State are bigger fan bases, but there would be a lot more neutral interest in a top-10ish matchup.
September 12th, 2016 at 1:23 PM ^
Michigan almost always gets the highest ratings in the conference, and MSU's TV ratings just don't hit what a top-10 team usually does, so I would imagine "Michigan-Penn State" is the answer.
The BTN is weirdly complicated. Some weeks they get the #2 pick, other weeks ABC/ESPN gets the #2 pick. I haven't really been able to figure out how they decide which weeks are which--is it pre-determined, or is it one network's or the other's choice? I don't really know that detail. I guess if this is one of those BTN #2 weeks, then the noon BTN game is looking pretty interesting either way.
So to summarize, most weeks it's #1 ABC, #2 ABC/ESPN, #3 BTN. A few weeks #2 and #3 are reversed. I don't know if that week is reversed or not.
Also, each team must be on BTN at least twice a season, including at least one conference game. So if they put Michigan-PSU on BTN, ABC/ESPN can grab the remainder of Michigan's games for the season if they want. (Colorado is on BTN as well).
September 12th, 2016 at 1:29 PM ^
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September 12th, 2016 at 1:30 PM ^
It surprised me too when I looked it up, but it has already been selected by ABC/ESPN/2.
September 12th, 2016 at 1:34 PM ^
...would never be on BTN.
September 12th, 2016 at 1:51 PM ^
striping the birthplace, man. ESPN has to be there for that.
September 12th, 2016 at 1:23 PM ^
Hmm, good to know. Guess that's why we played PSU at noon week 12 last year. Hoping we're number one here, the fanbase sizes in our game are both definitely larger than Wisconsin and MSU.
September 12th, 2016 at 2:17 PM ^
I disagree.
I think one will be noon, one 3:30, both national on ABC.
This is what they did last year for Penn State vs Michigan, followed by Michigan State vs. Ohio State, so the precedent is definitely there. They don't want the marquee games stealing each other's audiences.
I feel like if MSU wins against Notre Dame (or PSU loses to Temple), they will be 3:30 and we will be noon. If MSU loses, we will be 3:30.
September 12th, 2016 at 12:29 PM ^
Thanks for passing along the news that there is no news!
Here's a classic for you youngsters (General Francisco Franco)... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=butZyxI-PRs
September 12th, 2016 at 12:29 PM ^
This is getting ridiculous. I schedule a lot of stuff in the fall around Michigan games and not knowing the kickoff time is really starting to chap my ass. I could see if Michigan were some bottom feeding team with no following, the TV networks would want to wait until the last minute to slot us based on what everyone else is doing. But we have one of the highest viewerships.
/rant
September 12th, 2016 at 12:32 PM ^
May I suggest Ass Lubriderm?
September 12th, 2016 at 1:11 PM ^
would that be Assbriderm?
Lubriass?
September 12th, 2016 at 12:44 PM ^
6 day picks do have their place ---- let's say Michigan and MSU are both 7-0 going into their October 29 game. That's obviously a huge game, and the loser drops off in terms of the B1G race. Clearly, the winner of that game will definitely get significantly better ratings for their next game. So it would make sense to put each of U-M and MSU's next games on a 6-day pick.
But this? It's late September. There are still dozens and dozens of undefeateds and 1-loss teams out there. Just pick a damn time and go with it. The ratings are not going to be substantially different either way. Even if both U-M and PSU were to lose this upcoming Saturday the game would get ratings. U-M would not be completely eliminated from the MNC race, and both schools garner good ratings regardless because of their huge fan bases.
Ugh. This sort of stuff makes it hard to plan.
September 12th, 2016 at 12:48 PM ^
Eh, I think it's more reasonable now to have a six day pick than in mid-october. Still don't know much about anyone at this point. Someone could easily shit the bed this week and change the order of "best games" for the week pretty significantly.
September 12th, 2016 at 12:58 PM ^
I guess I'm sounding like a grumpy old man --- but these 6-day picks used to be a 1-2 times a year thing for the B1G back 5 years ago.
Of late, they have become every other week.
Per the other announcements that are coming out, it looks like the 3:30 ABC game will be either PSU/U-M or Wisky/MSU --- with the other game at Noon on BTN. If PSU/U-M does go to BTN, that would be the first-time ever for that match-up being on that network.
September 12th, 2016 at 1:12 PM ^
Well if that's the case, then I have a hard time arguing against the 6-day hold, given that we're talking about a national broadcast spot vs a BTN spot. If Michigan State loses a close one but everyone else wins games they're supposed to, I guess the difference between the two games isn't that big. But if Penn State were to lose (no offense) and Michigan State were to win, the difference is pretty extreme.
I guess you could still argue that the likely scenario is that they are games of similar importance and if there is going to be an imbalance, it's likely to favor the Wisconsin-MSU game, so that should be the pick right now. But I can't be too upset with ESPN deciding to take the option to wait it out when we really know very little about the four teams.
September 12th, 2016 at 1:54 PM ^
who called that play? Was that just a young QB doing something ridiculous or do you think that is where that play was supposed to go? That was truly a WTF moment.
September 12th, 2016 at 3:00 PM ^
it --- and the bomb to the EZ was obviously option #1. McSorley threw the pass. He shouldn't have, he needed to go to the options beyond option #1.
That pass was on a 2nd and 10. The play before, Pittsburgh did a good job stuffing Barkley on a run. PSU was at the very limits of FG range (to tie the game). Maybe the thinking was "run just stuffed, we can try a pass play that is more short-yardage oriented on 3rd down which is still available, maybe let's try to take the lead and possibly win it right here and now."
If the play before had been a typical run play --- gains 3-6 yards --- PSU probably sticks with that and doesn't go with the home run.
PSU had tried for a long home run earlier on the drive --- and just missed it. The play was there but the WR couldn't hold onto what was a non-trivial, but still definitely catchable, pass. That probably played into the thinking also.
September 12th, 2016 at 3:02 PM ^
looked like he came open a lot quicker than he thought and had not yet quite processed that the ball was coming to him. "I'm open" and "oh shit the ball is here" happened at the exact same time. He should have caught the ball but it was not a particularly easy catch.
September 12th, 2016 at 1:46 PM ^
...they can only exercise the "six-day window" four times per season. FYI.
September 12th, 2016 at 12:29 PM ^
September 12th, 2016 at 12:32 PM ^
This is usually how it's done every year....
My bet is 3:30. Wouldn't be shocked if it was Noon though.
If PSU craps the bed against Temple (which is certainly possible), it'd be Noon most likely.
September 12th, 2016 at 12:57 PM ^
PSU is favored by 9 right now. Temple must have lost some of their better players since last year I am guessing to be catching 9 in this one.
September 12th, 2016 at 1:05 PM ^
They have a 2-touchdown home loss to Army on their resume already --- Temple went -3 on turnovers, but they also let Army rush for 329 yards. The -3 in turnovers won't happen every game, but the latter is definitely more concerning in the long-run.
Overall, they are likely down overall vs. their very good 2015 campaign.
September 12th, 2016 at 1:18 PM ^
is going to run through Temple frequently. If I was a betting person I'd take Penn State and lay the 9 points.
September 12th, 2016 at 1:02 PM ^
September 12th, 2016 at 12:34 PM ^
Fuck PSU. Joe Knew.
September 12th, 2016 at 12:40 PM ^
I'm travelling with family to the MSU game (Spartan spouse, but my son and I will be bringing maize and blue into the trash tornado breach - thoughts and prayers appreciated!). Would love to fly in Saturday morning.
Does anyone think the UM-MSU game could be pushed to noon? We're about to pull the trigger on flights, and I've taken the position that there's NFW that ABC pushes this to noon.
Sometimes it has gotten that time slot because it was "regional interest" that nobody outside of MI cared about. Those days seem in the rear view, but the greater wisdom of the board could sway me.
September 12th, 2016 at 12:44 PM ^
On ABC or ESPN. I would definitely leave flexibility for the game to start at either noon or 3:30.
September 12th, 2016 at 12:44 PM ^
I'd consider waiting a week or two, if possible. While I'd agree it seems like a 3:30 start type of game right now, if MSU drops consecutive games to ND and Wisconsin, it may not seem as clear.
September 12th, 2016 at 12:53 PM ^
But I still think that game will be @ 3:30 even if sparty shits the bed a few times before then. Given recent program history and that thing that didn't happen last year, there should be a pretty big audience tuning in to see us stomp the fuck out of MSU, regardless of where (or if) they're ranked.
September 12th, 2016 at 3:35 PM ^
I like the way you think. I want to see revenge for last year's "whatever the hell" that was game.
September 12th, 2016 at 7:34 PM ^
but it is HIGHLY likely to be the 3:30 game - even if MSU loses twice before then.
September 12th, 2016 at 12:41 PM ^
I vote for not telling Penn State until the morning of the game. Let them show up for a noon game and sit on their pedophile-supporting asses for a few hours.
September 12th, 2016 at 1:21 PM ^
with the worship of the pedophile enabler. The problem is the alumni who keep electing psycho joepologists and the Paterno family.
September 12th, 2016 at 2:55 PM ^
Bullshit.
Fuck all of them.
The people who "aren't the problem" as you say are complicit in their silence.
September 12th, 2016 at 12:47 PM ^
When will the exact time of the game-time announcment on 9/18 be determined?
September 12th, 2016 at 1:07 PM ^
after most of the games have been played. A lot of the times most kick times are determined in the early morning Sunday morning, but noon is the latest time it can be determined.
September 12th, 2016 at 12:48 PM ^
September 12th, 2016 at 12:57 PM ^
Don't want to create a new thread for this...
You know how there is always that one guy on the opposition's sideline wearing the other team's gear? Why is that and what is their role?
Thanks in advance.
September 12th, 2016 at 12:59 PM ^
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September 12th, 2016 at 1:08 PM ^
Someone else can probably explain it better and in more accurate detail, but I think their main duty is to switch out footballs when needed (e.g. after a long incomplete pass). I wouldn't be surprised if there is a former equipment staffer in our midst here.