Obi Ezeh and Jonas Mouton
What should we do with these guys?...
Going into this year I thought we were pretty set at LB but I was severely wrong. It's crazy to think that we recruited Ezeh as a Running Back and Mouton as a safety and neither one plays those positions. Brandon Smith and J.B. Fitzgerald might come in and get their positions.
I do think that Ezeh and Mouton are too good to not be on the field. With the probable shift of Van Bergen to Defensive End and Martin to Defensive Tackle and Will Campbell in as Nose Tackle, I would hope that we can get Mouton and Ezeh back on the field. If Mouton could shed a few pounds, I think he could move to Stevie Brown's spot.
Any ideas...?
December 5th, 2009 at 12:51 PM ^
I think Brandon Smith is taking over for Stevie Brown and Fitzgerald may take over for Ezeh (maybe Mouton?) There are also young players behind them like Demens where they could impress in spring ball. All I can say for sure is LB spots (other than Roh's) are WIDE open.
December 5th, 2009 at 1:38 PM ^
Brandon Smith won't play Stevie Browns position. That would require him to be fast enough to cover slot receivers.
December 5th, 2009 at 2:21 PM ^
He played it against Wisconsin. And Stevie Brown wasn't fast enough to cover slot recievers either.
December 5th, 2009 at 4:53 PM ^
Brown was still on the field. And Smith isn't fast enough to play either position full time. He's listed as a Will and that's where his future lies, imo.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:51 PM ^
well...for ezeh...one possibility, at least on passing downs is:
NT: Martin
DT: Van Bergen
DE: Roh
Q: Ezeh
but in all likelihood, both stay at ILB. Most of the mistakes they made last season were mental, and are thus correctable.
MLB: Ezeh, Fitzgerald, Demens, Bell
WLB: Mouton, Leach, Smith, Jones
SLB: Kovacs?, Hawthorne, Simmons
December 5th, 2009 at 1:01 PM ^
i have no idea where people get the idea that Kovacks can play linebacker. it makes no sense. Also, i HIGHLY doubt that Ezeh will be moved to quick when Roh has the position on lock. The most probable options are having a Roh/Campbell/Marting/VB line with Fitz, Mouton, Smith at LB. Then some combination of Woolfolk, Turner, Kovacks, and Floyd(?) in the secondary.
December 5th, 2009 at 3:24 PM ^
They say this cause he good at being the fs in our offense the safety near the line stopping the run
December 5th, 2009 at 12:54 PM ^
The only thing about correctable mistakes is they didn't seem to show improvement as the year went on. Which is disapointing because of how much talent a guy like Mouton has.
December 5th, 2009 at 1:26 PM ^
This is hello and goodbye as it is only a matter of time. 2 accounts in 2 days. Over/under on 3rd meltdown and 3rd account? 24 hours.
Notice the format below -->
k06em01
Joined: 2009-10-31
Points: -644
OfflineSimplified Recruiting Board (for those not that into recruiting) Right now, we're sitting at twenty-two commitments. If Sam Webb is right about the new rule changes, then we have three scholarships left to give out. Here is a list of the recruits we're still in on, in rough order of our chances to land them:
CB: Grimes - probably.
DE: Murphy - probably.
SLB: Furman - maybe?/probably.
NT: Beachum - maybe?
SB: Baxter - maybe?
SS: Knight - maybe?
SR: Shaw - maybe?
SS: Parker - maybe?
SS: Vinopal - maybe?
DT: Ash - maybe?/probably not
DT: Thornton - maybe?/probably not
LB: Cornelius - maybe?/probably not
LB: Nealy - maybe?/probably not
SLB: Jefferson - probably not.
WR: Stills - probably not.
The Fifteenth
Joined: 2009-12-04
Points: -83
OfflineThe question now becomes...if The question now becomes...if it was not before...which commitments are not going to end up signing!?
QB: GARDNER
SB: WHITE
FB: HOPKINS
WR: ROBINSON, WILLIAMSON
WR: MILLER
SR: DILEO
SR: DRAKE
TE: JACKSON
LT:
LG: wilson
C: PACE
RG:
RT:
NT: hankins, beachum
DT: TALBOTT, ash
DE: WILKINS, murphy, bryant
Q: PASKORZ, KINNARD
MLB:
WLB:
SLB: furman
FS: ROBINSON, JOHNSON, parker, anderson
SS: JONES, VINOPAL, knight
CB: CHRISTIAN, TALBOTT, grimes
CB: AVERY, WITTY, boyd
K:
P: HAGERUP
December 5th, 2009 at 2:50 PM ^
you're the 9th smartest of my stalkers.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:56 PM ^
Jordan Kovacs is not going to play SAM. How many times does that stupid idea need to be beaten to death until it actually dies?
Anyway, Mouton needs to stay at WILL. He can be an effective player there. There's no need to move a bunch of guys all over the place just for the sake of moving them, because then you have to start the learning curve practically all over again.
December 5th, 2009 at 2:08 PM ^
can everybody agree that it is in the best interest of michigan for kovacs to not see the field, he is a great story in all but leaves much to be desired for a FBS safety. hindsight i wish michigan would have given vlad/floyd more looks at safety so they could have had game experience going into this coming year.
December 5th, 2009 at 2:48 PM ^
Emilien from what I've seen has the same problems as Kovacs -- too young to know the position very well, and too slow to use speed to make up for it.
Remember this: Kovacs can tackle, which is more than I can say for a lot of other guys.
I would like to see Woolfolk stay at Strong Safety, with Kovacs/Williams/Emilien/Gordon battling for the free spot. Corner minus Warren is going to look pretty ugly, but with all the incoming talent, chances are good that at least one of them or Turner will be able to come in and play press, so long as Woolfolk is behind them.
December 5th, 2009 at 5:51 PM ^
#1) they dont play the same position. emilien - ss. kovacs - fs.
#2) where did you see emilien playing safety? in high school? in a pick up game? where did you notice that he was too slow and too dumb to play?
#3) u fail to mention mrob at fs.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:14 PM ^
He probably watched Emilien play safety in a couple of games this year, just like the rest of us.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:13 AM ^
And the Spring Game.
I wrote an e-mail to Brian with my concerns after that. It had photos. And Geometry. Would have been a Diary, but I didn't have the skills at imaging yet back then.
Suffice to say, Emilien's top-end speed was severely lacking then, and from watching him this year in the spotty opportunities he got, it left something to be desired.
I don't think he's "stupid." I do think he was a true freshman this year, and any true freshman that has the awareness to play safety right away is an exceptional case.
I imagine RR knew safety was going to be a weak spot this year, and when Emilien said he would enroll early, RR was all for giving him a chance to earn the spot. But that injury that knocked Emilien out of his senior year (and kept him from going to Ohio State) probably was still slowing him down, and in retrospect, once that was apparent, Vlad probably should have received a redshirt.
My predictions for him haven't changed since the Spring Game: backup who becomes a solid starter late in his career, i.e. Brandent Englemon. In that context, a redshirt would maybe have given us two starting years from the Once and Future Impaler.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:15 AM ^
While I'm comparing current players to former players, Williams has always been a YMRMFSPA of Willis Barringer. So far, so good.
December 6th, 2009 at 1:56 PM ^
He did look a bit slow in the spring game, but I think that his speed could improve after another year removed from that catastrophic knee injury.
At least, let's pray that he improves. I was hoping we would just redshirt him last year and that he would be starting either this next year or 2011.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:57 PM ^
I think Nick Saban is the new incarnation of k06em01.
December 5th, 2009 at 1:03 PM ^
with The Fifteenth so maybe three times a charm?
December 5th, 2009 at 1:10 PM ^
perhaps he got banned for making too many good points.
December 5th, 2009 at 1:14 PM ^
with his posts. He brought a lot of enthusiasm when it was needed. Unfortunately, he let other posters get to him too easily when he should have just brushed it off and continued to contribute in a responsible, respectable way.
December 5th, 2009 at 1:20 PM ^
though some were a bit long winded and redundant. However, it certainly appears that Magnus is obsessed with him... could k06em01 be his alter ego???
December 5th, 2009 at 1:47 PM ^
I just think he's easily recognizable.
December 5th, 2009 at 2:04 PM ^
raging jealous obsession. pretty quick to call someone a troll arent u. reminds me of a certain psychological concept...
December 5th, 2009 at 2:00 PM ^
Aw, that's just sad man.
December 5th, 2009 at 1:36 PM ^
No , em01 did make a few good posts but most were redundant garbage and now he has stooped to degrading and berating people because he did not know when to leave well enough alone. I was all for giving him a second chance but it is getting old now.
December 5th, 2009 at 1:58 PM ^
move Obi to DE, plz
December 5th, 2009 at 3:48 PM ^
I say we trade them to the Jets for David Harris. A 2-for-1 deal. I'd take it.
December 5th, 2009 at 4:55 PM ^
hilarious joke dude!!! hope u get all the mgopoints u were hoping for!!
December 5th, 2009 at 5:00 PM ^
This clown needs to be banned. It's obvious his only goal now is to go around making snide comments.
December 5th, 2009 at 5:18 PM ^
He already has been.....twice in the past two days.
December 5th, 2009 at 5:26 PM ^
and you're good for what, making snide comments in response to snide comments??
December 5th, 2009 at 5:33 PM ^
Would it make you feel better if I posted threads like this?
Hey Recruiting Guru's,
What position do the coaches want 2019 recruit DeAndre Reynolds to play? Right now he's a 3'10" 7 year old, but both his mom and dad are pretty tall and everyone expects him to grow to about 6'2". According to his teacher, he's the fast kid in his class and has even beaten some 5th graders in a race!!! I've read that he's projected to play LB, but with his speed I think we should move him to safety. Does anyone know where I can find scouting tapes on him?
December 5th, 2009 at 5:38 PM ^
if it was a legitimate question about an actual recruit whose position was not sure...then yes...
tony drake-rb/sr
jerald robinson-wr/s
ricardo miller-wr/te
jeremy jackson-wr/te
troy williamson-wr/sr/db
wilkins-de/q
paskorz-de/q
kinnard-q/lb
robinson-fs/slb
christian-ss/cb
johnson-ss/fs
vinopal-ss/fs
December 5th, 2009 at 5:40 PM ^
:smacks forehead:
December 5th, 2009 at 5:52 PM ^
theres a good example of a stupid, meaningless post that contributes nothing to the board...being made in order to up your own point total.
good job duuuude!
December 5th, 2009 at 5:43 PM ^
It is... Didn't you read the part about him being faster than 5th graders?
December 5th, 2009 at 5:53 PM ^
repeat -
theres a good example of a stupid, meaningless post that contributes nothing to the board...being made in order to up your own point total.
good job duuuude!
December 5th, 2009 at 6:08 PM ^
Haha...Lighten up dude. You actually started some really good threads with you k06em01 account before your meltdown. This is an online message board and people are going to be smart asses. Just create a new account, lighten up, don't worry about people being smart asses, and have fun.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:17 PM ^
i dont need to create an account. the only people on here with high mgopoints...aside from tomvh (and others who actually call recruits to give us new information)...are those that are good at never expressing any of their own individual opinons that dont go along with whats cool here in nerd land.
i say, to hell with that.
ill say what i want and i dont care if the nerds like it or not.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:00 PM ^
this isn't in chart form
December 5th, 2009 at 6:22 PM ^
Here's hoping Ezeh and Mouton suddenly "get it" next year and turn into outstanding players.
Hell, I'd settle for just solid players.
December 5th, 2009 at 7:08 PM ^
good point, kovacs can tackle but was always 3 steps slow on every big play...great story, but not the solution