My E-Mail to OSU Fans This Morning Who Have Been Relentless

Submitted by Meeechigan Dan on
Sent to a reasonable OSU fan this morning. A lot of repeat stuff, I know. But it was cathartic.

Dave, in the hopes that you are intellectually honest, I am going to try once and only once to persuade you (like I have a couple others this morning - they failed by the way) and then we'll agree to disagree.
 
RR made huge mistakes - football mistakes - in his first year. He hired the wrong D coordinator, he ignored how to work with the media, stepped on some traditions, etc. That was unfortunate, but those were football mistakes, and I would be an idiot if I threw him under the bus after one year and when he didn't have his players. I will reserve judgment until he has his system and his players, about two more years, although there will have to be stunning progress this year, and I expect there to be. Yes, I would rather have had Les Miles, but I have RR and so he gets a chance.
 
RR is a hard ass. Lloyd was like your grandfather. RR runs a spread. Lloyd ran a pro-set. RR is a West Virginia boy. Lloyd is purebread Ann Arbor-style elitest. You couldn't have picked a more stark change from one culture to the next.  A rational man expects extreme fallout. Bo lost 65 of 140 players from his first training camp because it was grueling. That's what coined the "Those who stay will be champions" phrase. RR is a workout fanatic and we've lost a lot of players, as expected. Last year was a result of that discord. The interviews for the article are with former players, some transfers, some NFL, all Lloyd guys. The two freshmen had nothing but love for the program and were deceived into talking about hours worked as material for the story.
 
RR left West Virginia and they were pissed. Thus he shredded documents (later proven untrue) and was Satan.  RR arrived in AA a culture shock, hated by the AA elite and the Free Press. The establishment does not like the man. In Columbus, like with this story from the Lantern, they hear of a problem, then go ask the staff what their thoughts are and everyone chuckles and concludes more violations means a more honest staff. How do you think this story would have been spun with the Free Press (Rodriguez Leads the Big 10 in Recruiting Violations: The New Era of Recruiting at All Costs at Michigan).
 
Despite RR having the highest team GPA on record (strange how that is supposed to be hand-in-hand with these "violations"), despite only ONE of his kids having any disciplinary issues, he is corrupt and evil and so on. The day before he dismissed his one disciplinary problem, spun as pure evil by the Free Press, the Free Press documented how a kid was reinstated with MSU who assaulted a hockey player with nary a bad word. I wonder how the Free Press would have viewed RR reinstating an ex-convict.
 
Dave, if you can't understand that there is a vendetta in the press against RR, you choose to be blind. That's your choice. You may think RR is a media dud (he is) or that he can't coach (his record speaks otherwise, but perhaps he can't at this level, we'll see), but to think he is corrupt and, for example, OSU is not is to live in a pretend world. If you have any intellectual honesty, you'd acknowledge bullshit when you see it. Don't be mindless.

Comments

gater

August 31st, 2009 at 10:17 AM ^

my friend is a die hard OSU fan and he was giving me shit this weekend. I said "It's not that bad, it's not like we were giving away SUVs or $100 handshakes"

InterM

August 31st, 2009 at 12:20 PM ^

Isn't that the point (or one of the points) that strikes any reasonable reader of the Freep article -- that we're being asked to make judgments in a factual vacuum? Of course there is "no evidence" that only Carr recruits were interviewed -- because virtually everything in the article is anonymously sourced! Wouldn't that be one of the first things you would want to know -- are we talking solely Carr recruits, or also guys that Rodriguez brought in? But the article provides exactly ZERO information on that important question.

Hemlock Philosopher

August 31st, 2009 at 10:25 AM ^

I wish I had the temerity of you, Meechigan Dan. Down here in Crackland, I am outnumbered 300 to 1. My office door is closed to buckeyes; I know they are out there - I hear the cacophony. One-on-one they can be rational, but in a heard they are like hyenas.

Not a Blue Fan

August 31st, 2009 at 10:31 AM ^

As an OSU fan, I think that's a pretty well thought out email. I do think, however, that you have to be wary of painting with a broad brush; not all OSU fans have a vendetta against RR. Rather, I think a lot of OSU fans enjoy the fact that RR is incredibly unrefined. He's a country bumpkin. That played well at WVU, but Michigan isn't WVU and it never will be. Regardless of whether or not any of these accusations are true, many of us simply enjoy the schaudenfraude that comes from watching UM fans turn on each other (and, let's be honest: there are clearly two camps here - the people who never have and never will accept RR and the people who are willing to have an open mind). At any rate, I think you've written a good letter. Yes, there are a lot of stupid OSU fans. Of course, you could insert any school into that sentence and not alter its truthiness. It sucks that you have to deal with stupid fans of rival teams - then again, that is the essence of rivalry. The only advice I can give is not to take it to heart. It is, after all, only a game.

OysterMonkey

August 31st, 2009 at 3:41 PM ^

I have the same experience with my friends and family who are buckeye fans. They really get apoplectic about RRod when any little thing happens. They didn't have that sort of reaction to Carr. Although, I don't really remember what they said about Carr when he was beating Cooper's brains in.

True Blue Crew

August 31st, 2009 at 10:35 AM ^

This isn't a Michigan issue it's an NCAA football issue. Ohio State, USC, Texas, etc. ALL spend the extra time needed in the weight room, film room, practice field, to be the best they can be! Ask any current NFL player about the college they went to and the time they put in. You'll find each and every one of them saying the same thing! Chad Henne, former Michigan Quarterback, says that he spent countless hours doing things above and beyond what was asked of him. And that was under Lloyd Carr's program! Let's not be ignorant about this... If you want to be better than average/most, you put in the time to become better! There are people out there who have something against Coach RR and they are doing their best to get him out of the U of M program. That's sad because in my opinion, he's an okay guy who is doing nothing different than anyone eles... Be careful what you as for UM fans... You might get something other than what you want in the end!!!

MaizeZee

September 1st, 2009 at 1:40 AM ^

Living just outside of C-bus I am completely surrounded by buckeyes and it's been insane how many comments I've received lately. I can't remember the last time I've been given this much shit for being a Michigan fan. The first thing everyone says when they see me has something to do with Michigan cheating or some kind of 4th grade joke that you would expect from an Ohio State fan. It's been really crazy around here lately.. this whole situation has been bad enough but in buckeye land there's no forgetting it. I absolutely can't wait for the game Saturday, not just to escape from C-bus to Ann Arbor but to show my support to the best team around. GO BLUE!