Gene Smith says Michigan win streak over OSU should have an asterisk
This was posted in diaries but was removed because it's not a diary. I figured it still deserved a place on the board.
During his appearance on WOSU’s All Sides with Anna Staver on Thursday, Staver asked Smith if Ohio State’s three-game losing streak to Michigan “deserves a little bit of an asterisk since for at least two of those years, it appears they were cheating.”
Smith’s reply: “Of course I do.”
That was the headline, although it's not too surprising. I found this more interesting:
“I think people’s expectation of what the NCAA might do relative to penalties were probably too high, because everyone was upset and there was just visceral comments around it,” Smith said. “I won’t comment too much about what I feel, because I don’t want to disparage, but at the end of the day, violations occurred and penalties have been levied and will be levied, and we just have to live with them.”
Sounds to me like he's trying to brace people for minor penalties.
Also this:
"We host that team up north this fall,” Smith said. “And I’m assuming it’ll be what it’s always been (in terms of intensity). But the last time that we had the level of interest in that game was 2006, 1 vs. 2.
He thinks 2024 will have more interest and anticipation than 2023? Maybe he just means for a game in Columbus. But even then, I still think 2016 and 2018 will be tough to beat in terms of anticipation, especially since the stakes will never be the same with the mega-conference and expanded playoffs.
If that's the case, then every single one of Urban Meyer and Jim Tressel's wins over UM should have an asterisk. "Rules for thee but not for me" in full effect here.
There's not much else to say. Does anyone think they didn't have a whole staff of "Stalions" the past several years?
To be fair, their bad actors are much better at it, especially since they come with the full knowledge and endorsement of the program.
Hearing fans of schools like OSU, Bama, UGA, etc. talk about us having a tainted or illegitimate Natty as if they haven't been fans of schools that have cheated their way to relevancy for the past 2 decades will never not amuse me. They have zero self awareness
yes. and reese davis is a POS.
They're just mad that our system worked better than theirs. But hey, I'm down to start putting asterisks all over Ohio State's wins if they are lol
You hit it out of the park with that comment. Absolutely! Gene Smith is a D-bag. He and buckeye nation cannot accept the fact that Michigan has beaten them 3 times in a row.
They just keep the excuses coming and coming for losing to Michigan.
He can shove his opinion up his asterisk...
He was ensuring the cheeks are fairly balanced.
If he wasn't wearing that ugly ass helmet, that piece of shit ref would have kissed him on the lips 😘
Exactly. Fuck that guy. When you get the piss beaten out of you in a game that you made a referendum you don’t get to talk about asterisks or make the next game the referendum. Wasn’t Gene supposed to retire? Go away please.
Wait, what? In 2022, you had #2 and #3 both undefeated going into that game.
Smith didn't think there was a high level of interest in that game?
Oh yeah, I left out 2022. Oops. Thanks.
Seriously, that game was in C''bus and they were coming off an embarrassing loss in AA. They were totally amped for that game.
That said, I'm certain he left out that game b/c it was a loss. He had to reference a win.
Remember College Game day on ESPN that day in c-bus? It was our man Charles Woodson who was the only one on that panel picking Michigan to win. Urban was convinced that OH State would win...WRONG! It was great to see all of them eat crow after that game and Charles looked GREAT!
Always thumbs up for Woodson.
Honestly i thought we werent going to do it without Blake. I was prepped to say 'great season, great run, get them next year.'
Penn St that year made me realize we were elite. But that game made me realize just how deep and developed this program was. Going into the shoe and winning by 3 TDs? To a team that played the eventual national champ to within a point in their home state? Oh and also - its not allegations, it has been proven and reported that they did, in fact, have (and shared) our signs.
Whatever the NCAA wants to do, OSU lost and then made up a scandal to try to justify it and then still lost again to the best big ten team ever. They're still making excuses. I hope they keep making excuses that we keep batting away. There will be hype for that game. Our program has proven they dont flinch when it gets hot. Ryan Day's program has repeatedly choked in these moments. I cant wait to beat their ass in their house...again.
Day even said after the Stalions thing broke that he suspected Michigan had their signs in the 2021 game, so he completely changed them ahead of 2022. And their defensive scheme in that game was nearly identical to the scheme Don Brown used to run when Meyer and Day embarrassed him.
That was Big Noon kickoff on Fox although Gameday was probably no different with Desmond picking Michigan.
Gene Smith is an ass.
I met him once at a golf club in Columbus. He took my Michigan hat off my head and shoved it in my chest, telling me that I couldn't wear it there.
Needless to say, I put it back on.
Woah that’s how grown men get slapped these days.
you spelled punch wrong
Yeah, I definitely had to hold back from saying or doing anything. I didn't want to cause a scene for my hosts.
You clearly weren't raised in Chicago....
Too soon?
You forgot to spit in his face but if you refrained out of respect for your own saliva, I would understand
I would've responded with a, "well you're now theee biggest douche canoe ive ever met". Being 6'5" i'd probably stand over him looking down, put my hat on with a big smile.
That’s called battery. It wouldn’t have stuck in Columbus, but he committed a crime against you. So does Gene’s criminal record need a few asterisks?
THIS knucklehead?? I really don't care about his opinion. He can't follow simple rules at a game... not sure I trust his opinion, or care about his opinion, on anything.
*ene *mith? Presiding over fake classes, performance enhancing drugs and illegal payments to recruits should have its own asterisk, right *ene?
I don’t recognize you.
Ok cool
Hook 'em
Realistically.... this is dumb. The accusations are dumb, their fans are dumb, the idea for repercussions like this are dumb. A) They're never ever going to do something like an asterisk, B) Even if they did most people wouldn't care (or possibly even be aware of it), and C) even if everyone in the universe was fully aware of it, it won't remove the feeling I got watching the 2021 game.
Excuses are for losers. Drink milk. Get better.
Entitlement is institutionalized at Ohio State. Not breaking news.
Then everybody had to open their mouth with a motherfuckin' opinion
Well this is how we gon' do this
Fuck Gene Smith, fuck Ryan Day
Fuck OSU as a staff, fanbase and as a motherfuckin' crew
And if you want to be down with OSU, then fuck you too
This deserves 100 upvotes
fuck OSU, get titles, fuck OSU, get titles
Love it!
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Not sure where Hotel Putingrad is but there’s only one appropriate response to this.
I got this
Much appreciated!!!
Love the leading questions:
“So do think that those cheating cheaters, who deliberately cheated and whose success is solely due to cheating, cheated?”
“…yes”
“And do you think that their invalid success, which, as you just confirmed, was solely due to cheating, and wouldn’t have happened if they weren’t cheating…is invalid?”
“…yes”
Keep giving that bulletin board material.
Speaking of bulletin board material, this seems relevant... LeSean McCoy and DeSean Jackson torched Chip Kelly on their podcast yesterday.
“I never had a coach who was scared – not even scared – I’ll say uncomfortable around Black players,” McCoy said about Kelly. “Let’s not hide it, right? Most of the players are black. The NFL is dominated by Black players.”
“He never really approached me, and was never a disciplinarian,” said Jackson on Kelly. “He would talk to me, and it was like he was scared of me… I respect certain coaches, and when you get my respect, I will run through a brick wall for you… that’s the love that you build with a coach. With Chip Kelly, I never felt that love, because he always was scared of me. How can I respect you if I feel like you’re scared of me? You never voice your opinion with me, you always ran around it.”
If he’s uncomfortable now, wait until he sees the infamous pregame bounce session
He’s a dummy then. Don’t even have to expound.
I was at The Game in Columbus for all years from 2004 through 2022. I agree with him about 2006. 2022 was close for me as a Michigan fan but I think most OSU fans viewed 2021 as a aberration and were overly confident about the 2022 Buckeyes similar to how I felt about the 2018 Wolverines. 2006 was extraordinarily high excitement and anticipation for both sides.
Gene is the one that deserves an asterisk.
Gene is cordially invited to consume a large satchel of richards.