How can you say football is a “top 10 team at worst”, but put the O/u at 8.5? Do you really think we maintain a top 10 ranking with only 9 wins and an assumed late season loss to OSU?
I’m just not sure we have seen enough of Tuttle to know if he’s Mcnamara although it’s a reasonable comp probably. I’d have about 10x more confidence in a FR McCarthy than Orji though. Other than running ability, have we heard anything positive about Orji’s passing? He’s in year 3 and just seems to be way closer to the Milton development curve from everything we know.
I’m with you. Just about every position group is in the good to potentially great category. I’m surprised there isn’t more panic regarding the QB room. If Tuttle can’t stay healthy and pull a Rudock, it’s going to be a massive problem. We have a lot of athletes at the position, I’m not sure we have any QBs at the position.
Safety is frustrating because we went from elite to concerning.
You also become the SOL by overspending when it isn’t necessary. Goff’s guaranteed money slots him in around #6 in the league with Jalen Hurts. That’s ahead of stafford, Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Dak Prescott, etc. maybe you think that’s where he belongs, I think that’s pretty high. We’ll find out.
I don’t know. Seems like a lot of money. $175 million guaranteed….it feels like we could’ve landed him for about $25 million less. Hopefully he brings us a title and it won’t matter.
Really? I don’t think his temper is worse than anyone else on this list. He speaks pretty candidly in his press conferences and also seems to be intelligent. I bet you could have some pretty reasonable conversations with him.
Trouba is a great player but he’s also a thug. He’ll go down in history as one of the dirtiest players ever. I’m sure he has no problem with this and probably takes pride in his “enforcer” mentality. He’s a head hunter who gets off on injuring people. Plain and simple.
I don’t believe he’s enrolled yet, therefore cannot transfer. I didn’t think NLI’s meant anything anymore though, so this story is a surprise especially with a coach and recruiter leaving. Prepare to lose this one St. Mary’s.
Yeah but what did DJ Waller do to command big NIL money? He got hit in the chest with two horrible passes from our QBs. Then proceeded to fumble one back to the other team and drop the other. I’m not saying he isn’t going to be a good player, but UK got a glimpse of him and thought he was worth throwing the bag at. Oh well. Saab was a much bigger NIL loss.
Well let’s see…we lost 4/5 starters on the offensive line. No QB on the roster has completed a meaningful pass in college, other than maybe Tuttle. Our WR options are thin at best. Our starting safety is out for the year and the guy that was going to replace him transferred. We have no one with any experience to backup Loveland. I’m thinking we could use a guy with some experience at any of those positions for a year.
Yeah I mean not overly concerned about this departure. However, the portal is definitely doing a lot of taking, and not a lot of giving. For a team that did well in the portal last year and now has even more spots to fill in this year, the lack of our usual high floor grad transfers in, is a concerning sign.
Definitely a questionable decision by him and his camp. You have to think that even if he was concerned with PT here, he could’ve gotten some NIL money and more PT somewhere else and improved his stock.
So maybe we just not even televise the spring game? Or play it after the spring portal closes? Coaches sitting at home shopping like they’re watching QVC.
Yeah, NFL style offense is a term that changes frequently. If they are questioning his ability to throw the deep ball accurately, repeatedly, then I think that’s reasonable. Not because he can’t do it, but because we simply didn’t ask him to do it very often.
So is he the most NFL ready? Probably not. That award would probably go to Penix. Does that mean Penix will have a better career than JJ? Of course not. It will be fun to watch JJ get better and better.
I think I know what happened. Coach Smith got confused. He saw that he is in the same conference as USC and UCLA, thought he was back in the PAC12 where defense doesn’t exist, and jettisoned all of his defensive players.
Maybe. But this guy stuck around during the height of dysfunction and embarrassment. He made it through the low point and is now transferring? Either he got offered the bag somewhere else, was holding MSU hostage for the bag and MSU said “no”, or spring game came and went and he’s not confident about his playing time.
I do not own one, but Tesla has some outrageous deals right now. Leases lower than a lot of mid tier vehicles. Worth checking out if you don’t tow or plan on going on long road trips. I wouldn’t own one out of battery warranty, but honestly, there aren’t many vehicles I would own outside of their warranty period.
Could we also please stop the Milroe comparisons? Milroe had a TD/INT ratio of 23/6 and a completion percentage of 65%. It’s not fair to have these expectations.
This was still his best opportunity to get reps in a game like atmosphere. I’m not saying we needed to see him run, quite the opposite. Going through progressions and making accurate throws is what he needs to work on. Would’ve liked to see him get more opportunities to do that.
There are some veterans in the portal who might be able to give us a more reliable (low mistake) option than anyone else on the roster. No stars, but there are options.
I just hate to waste this defensive talent. When will we have another defense like this? Moore owes it to the defense to see what qb options are out there.
I’m honestly confused by what you are arguing for. I agree that college and NFL should have rule differences for a reason. However, last year with the new rule that runs the clock on first downs, they stole game time from us, added commercial time, and the games still take 3.5 hours to be played. At least the 2 minute warning gives us some of that time back. My guess is this will actually cut into commercial time. The games will still have to be played in the same time slot, but now they are adding back a play or two. You want to shorten games? Get the asshole with the red hat off of the field until a team calls a timeout or until the quarter ends.
Three-fold actually. In order to need WRs, we need an offensive game plan that lends itself to a passing game. We also need a guy who can deliver the ball to these receivers. Based on what we think we know so far, we possess neither of these things.
And just because he was a rotation guy for an elite qb, it doesn’t mean he’s ready to be the starter. Nor does anything we have heard make it sound that way. We can’t be afraid to hurt his feelings by hitting the portal.
QB room is not looking good, that will be the biggest issue. I’ll worry about WR when someone has been reported to be able to throw consistently accurate balls. The portal can absolutely help us here. There is going to be some talent in the portal this Spring. Talented guys want to play and we have minutes to spare. Hopefully we can land a top tier option.
Very light penalties for buying a couple of kids lunch at a below average restaurant? This is a joke. The punishment is ludicrous because the crime was nonsense. Meanwhile OSU reels in the best transfer portal class in history, tampers, and spends millions to lure guys away from other schools, but the NCAA doesn’t bat an eye. We should ignore the NCAA and their pathetic existence.
Nah, if he’s a good coach he will get another chance somewhere once he takes care of himself legally and personally.
It did always make me wonder why a young guy like Denard who was an elite athlete got to be overweight in such a short amount of time. Maybe he has some demons or health issues…or maybe he was just enjoying the good life a little too much.
Let’s not forget it was incredibly easy for coaches to negatively recruit M and Harbaugh. He had flirted very seriously two years in a row with the NFL. All signs were pointing that by the time the 2024 and 2025 classes get here, Harbaugh was likely to be gone if he got the chance…. And they were correct.
May just got the job. He’s taking over a pretty big roster rebuild and it’s unlikely he’s going to be strapped for space. Barring something crazy happening with the portal and our NIL system, there’s room for him. You boot him if he shows any signs of being a distraction, but at this point you keep him. Easy decision.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I’m ok with not paying a highschool senior who hasn’t played a snap in college a guaranteed $9 million over 3 years. He likely won’t even play much his freshman year. So this high schooler should make more than Brock Purdy? Somehow college football duped everyone last year and found a way to decrease actual game time and increase commercial time and no one was outraged. This will only continue with this trend of outrageous pay.
If it means we never win another natty so be it. We won the last one that mattered anyway.
I mean, he teaches defense well. Otherwise you throw it to the biggest player in college basketball and then when they collapse, you throw it out so your guards can shoot wide open threes. It’s not rocket science.
I mean it’s taken Zach Edey and 20 years? That’s like saying Mel Tucker’s success in 2021 had nothing to do with Kenneth Walker. I don’t have a problem with Painter but he also owns the worst tourney loss in history.
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If we have 3 losses including 1 to OSU and the committee puts us in the top 10, I’ll eat a bag of lemons. The committee hates us.
How can you say football is a “top 10 team at worst”, but put the O/u at 8.5? Do you really think we maintain a top 10 ranking with only 9 wins and an assumed late season loss to OSU?
I’m just not sure we have seen enough of Tuttle to know if he’s Mcnamara although it’s a reasonable comp probably. I’d have about 10x more confidence in a FR McCarthy than Orji though. Other than running ability, have we heard anything positive about Orji’s passing? He’s in year 3 and just seems to be way closer to the Milton development curve from everything we know.
I’m with you. Just about every position group is in the good to potentially great category. I’m surprised there isn’t more panic regarding the QB room. If Tuttle can’t stay healthy and pull a Rudock, it’s going to be a massive problem. We have a lot of athletes at the position, I’m not sure we have any QBs at the position.
Safety is frustrating because we went from elite to concerning.
You also become the SOL by overspending when it isn’t necessary. Goff’s guaranteed money slots him in around #6 in the league with Jalen Hurts. That’s ahead of stafford, Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Dak Prescott, etc. maybe you think that’s where he belongs, I think that’s pretty high. We’ll find out.
I don’t know. Seems like a lot of money. $175 million guaranteed….it feels like we could’ve landed him for about $25 million less. Hopefully he brings us a title and it won’t matter.
Grace periods don’t exist in college football.
Really? I don’t think his temper is worse than anyone else on this list. He speaks pretty candidly in his press conferences and also seems to be intelligent. I bet you could have some pretty reasonable conversations with him.
Trouba is a great player but he’s also a thug. He’ll go down in history as one of the dirtiest players ever. I’m sure he has no problem with this and probably takes pride in his “enforcer” mentality. He’s a head hunter who gets off on injuring people. Plain and simple.
I don’t believe he’s enrolled yet, therefore cannot transfer. I didn’t think NLI’s meant anything anymore though, so this story is a surprise especially with a coach and recruiter leaving. Prepare to lose this one St. Mary’s.
Yeah but what did DJ Waller do to command big NIL money? He got hit in the chest with two horrible passes from our QBs. Then proceeded to fumble one back to the other team and drop the other. I’m not saying he isn’t going to be a good player, but UK got a glimpse of him and thought he was worth throwing the bag at. Oh well. Saab was a much bigger NIL loss.
More importantly, maybe pick literally any other person on the planet
Well let’s see…we lost 4/5 starters on the offensive line. No QB on the roster has completed a meaningful pass in college, other than maybe Tuttle. Our WR options are thin at best. Our starting safety is out for the year and the guy that was going to replace him transferred. We have no one with any experience to backup Loveland. I’m thinking we could use a guy with some experience at any of those positions for a year.
Yeah I mean not overly concerned about this departure. However, the portal is definitely doing a lot of taking, and not a lot of giving. For a team that did well in the portal last year and now has even more spots to fill in this year, the lack of our usual high floor grad transfers in, is a concerning sign.
He might have plenty of upside left, but at the rate of his currently trajectory, he probably won’t be on a NFL roster long enough to reach it.
Definitely a questionable decision by him and his camp. You have to think that even if he was concerned with PT here, he could’ve gotten some NIL money and more PT somewhere else and improved his stock.
Mcgregor too. I’m a little surprised quite frankly.
I wish they’d give you the option to re-enter college if you didn’t get drafted(as long as a player has eligibility of course).
So maybe we just not even televise the spring game? Or play it after the spring portal closes? Coaches sitting at home shopping like they’re watching QVC.
Zinter is probably the biggest steal but Keegan isn’t far behind. These guys are gonna have great careers.
Yeah, NFL style offense is a term that changes frequently. If they are questioning his ability to throw the deep ball accurately, repeatedly, then I think that’s reasonable. Not because he can’t do it, but because we simply didn’t ask him to do it very often.
So is he the most NFL ready? Probably not. That award would probably go to Penix. Does that mean Penix will have a better career than JJ? Of course not. It will be fun to watch JJ get better and better.
Depends on the size and cost of your entourage. Everyone knows you gotta make it rain in the club too. Life is expensive.
Agreed. Surprised he’s still on the board.
I think I know what happened. Coach Smith got confused. He saw that he is in the same conference as USC and UCLA, thought he was back in the PAC12 where defense doesn’t exist, and jettisoned all of his defensive players.
And played in a few games.
Maybe. But this guy stuck around during the height of dysfunction and embarrassment. He made it through the low point and is now transferring? Either he got offered the bag somewhere else, was holding MSU hostage for the bag and MSU said “no”, or spring game came and went and he’s not confident about his playing time.
I do not own one, but Tesla has some outrageous deals right now. Leases lower than a lot of mid tier vehicles. Worth checking out if you don’t tow or plan on going on long road trips. I wouldn’t own one out of battery warranty, but honestly, there aren’t many vehicles I would own outside of their warranty period.
Don’t blow your wad yet. The finish line is not yet in sight. Maybe hang onto the tentacle porn for now.
Didn’t he think Dustin Hoffman was in Star Wars?
Threads like this make me thankful that I have better things to do than watch a spring scrimmage twice.
This guy is a monster. How he went through college without Harbaugh converting him to DT, we will never know.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say despite both being walk-ons at one point, Warren is not Brian Griese.
Please no more Milroe comparisons. Orji isn’t even in the same ballpark.
Could we also please stop the Milroe comparisons? Milroe had a TD/INT ratio of 23/6 and a completion percentage of 65%. It’s not fair to have these expectations.
This was still his best opportunity to get reps in a game like atmosphere. I’m not saying we needed to see him run, quite the opposite. Going through progressions and making accurate throws is what he needs to work on. Would’ve liked to see him get more opportunities to do that.
There are some veterans in the portal who might be able to give us a more reliable (low mistake) option than anyone else on the roster. No stars, but there are options.
I just hate to waste this defensive talent. When will we have another defense like this? Moore owes it to the defense to see what qb options are out there.
I’m honestly confused by what you are arguing for. I agree that college and NFL should have rule differences for a reason. However, last year with the new rule that runs the clock on first downs, they stole game time from us, added commercial time, and the games still take 3.5 hours to be played. At least the 2 minute warning gives us some of that time back. My guess is this will actually cut into commercial time. The games will still have to be played in the same time slot, but now they are adding back a play or two. You want to shorten games? Get the asshole with the red hat off of the field until a team calls a timeout or until the quarter ends.
Three-fold actually. In order to need WRs, we need an offensive game plan that lends itself to a passing game. We also need a guy who can deliver the ball to these receivers. Based on what we think we know so far, we possess neither of these things.
And just because he was a rotation guy for an elite qb, it doesn’t mean he’s ready to be the starter. Nor does anything we have heard make it sound that way. We can’t be afraid to hurt his feelings by hitting the portal.
QB room is not looking good, that will be the biggest issue. I’ll worry about WR when someone has been reported to be able to throw consistently accurate balls. The portal can absolutely help us here. There is going to be some talent in the portal this Spring. Talented guys want to play and we have minutes to spare. Hopefully we can land a top tier option.
Very light penalties for buying a couple of kids lunch at a below average restaurant? This is a joke. The punishment is ludicrous because the crime was nonsense. Meanwhile OSU reels in the best transfer portal class in history, tampers, and spends millions to lure guys away from other schools, but the NCAA doesn’t bat an eye. We should ignore the NCAA and their pathetic existence.
Nah, if he’s a good coach he will get another chance somewhere once he takes care of himself legally and personally.
It did always make me wonder why a young guy like Denard who was an elite athlete got to be overweight in such a short amount of time. Maybe he has some demons or health issues…or maybe he was just enjoying the good life a little too much.
Let’s not forget it was incredibly easy for coaches to negatively recruit M and Harbaugh. He had flirted very seriously two years in a row with the NFL. All signs were pointing that by the time the 2024 and 2025 classes get here, Harbaugh was likely to be gone if he got the chance…. And they were correct.
Oh the answer is still Harbaugh. The hilarious part is they think they’ve moved on from him.
You never know. He always wanted to play with Bronny. Might have better luck in college than the nba.
May just got the job. He’s taking over a pretty big roster rebuild and it’s unlikely he’s going to be strapped for space. Barring something crazy happening with the portal and our NIL system, there’s room for him. You boot him if he shows any signs of being a distraction, but at this point you keep him. Easy decision.
How does a guy like him hold a high level job? He sounds like a moron.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I’m ok with not paying a highschool senior who hasn’t played a snap in college a guaranteed $9 million over 3 years. He likely won’t even play much his freshman year. So this high schooler should make more than Brock Purdy? Somehow college football duped everyone last year and found a way to decrease actual game time and increase commercial time and no one was outraged. This will only continue with this trend of outrageous pay.
If it means we never win another natty so be it. We won the last one that mattered anyway.
Don’t underestimate the zebras. It’s hard to play if all of your players are on the bench with fouls.
I mean, he teaches defense well. Otherwise you throw it to the biggest player in college basketball and then when they collapse, you throw it out so your guards can shoot wide open threes. It’s not rocket science.
I mean it’s taken Zach Edey and 20 years? That’s like saying Mel Tucker’s success in 2021 had nothing to do with Kenneth Walker. I don’t have a problem with Painter but he also owns the worst tourney loss in history.