Tim Banks, the co-DC at Penn State, has some very interesting new follows.

"Is Don Brown's wife attractive?"

- James Franklin

I was hoping we would offer Steve Clinkscale from Kentucky a Co-DC/S position while obtaining another strong Co-DC with experience to help Clinkscale transition. He would be outstanding recruiter as well and Kentucky seemingly has a great defense as well

recruiting is half of it. Can he coach up a scheme? 

I think Jamari Budden was more of a decision by the staff to stick with the linebackers they were already pursuing/had in the class.  Michigan got a pretty good group this year with or without Budden.  Besides that, I agree with you.

I don't know if he his good or bad but he can do one thing our current staff seems incapble of doing

recruiting defensive tackles

Curious how he is the opposite of Brown?

I agree Brown's time at UM has run its course, but I'm not sure I'm immediately looking for somebody who is the opposite of Brown.  I enjoyed Brown's passion and demeanor.  He also had some really incredible defenses until last year.  Obviously, seemed like people were able to exploit his schemes and the talent dried up, but I'm not itching for somebody who's the opposite.  

I'd be surprised. Co-DC with Brown sounds like an awful idea. What would be the point of that? If his philosophy isn't playing in a 3-3-5 against power running teams on first down with poor DTs, I'm for it.

I'll disagree on the recruiting downgrade of Wheatley to JayB. Otherwise I'm with you

Me too.  The kid was generally alright, but unfortunately blew a gasket in a convo and I do appreciate the mods trying to create some modicum of courtesy here.

I'm glad someone else sees it that way too. I'm sure there are some real players from the Detroit area that we have lost due to his efforts, but many of the names listed here are not guys that will move the needle for us, in my opinion.

I know that recruiting your "back yard" is important, but if we ever want to return to glory, we'll need a national recruiting guru. As it was mentioned in a post yesterday, osu is not on their current run largely because of their ohio recruiting efforts.

Having a hard time remembering some of the specifics, but Michigan was in on almost all of the Detroit kids Banks pulled. Jennings, Dixon, and one of the King brothers specifically. Dixon was the same year as Hill and Lewis Cine, so he was the 3rd option behind two top 50 guys. It was talked about that the staff was trying to get King back in this year.

Regardless, a guy who has a good relationship with the biggest Detroit area schools is useful in recruiting. Yes, Michigan can't win with just Michigan kids, but it would be a lot easier not to have to go and fight for some 4 stars in FL and CA if they can get 4 stars in their backyard. Belleville will continue to put out good prospects, as will Oak Part, King, and Cass. A better shot at guys like Barnett, Dobbs (not them specifically) as well as less effort needed to sway Benny away from places like MSU could make the team better IMO. It's part of the larger picture.

Also, some of those guys were "plan B" type players as Michigan went after big time national prospects, but I'd rather the plan B guys be Detroit area 3.5 stars than some of the other plan B types that have been pulled in recently. I know he decommitted, but Phinney was a plan B/help recruit your friend option this year. Detroit has better prospects to "fall back on" if needed.

Harbaugh was also here in 2016 and also Hoke in 2011. Current results matter more.