JoePa/Sandusky Protest at Big House(?)
Last week a topic arose regarding Penn St honoring Joe Paterno's 50 year anniversary of service at Beaver Stadium. Originally a MGoPoster suggested that a movement of 'turning their backs' when PennSt ran onto the field. Though there was less than a week to organize this and did not reach the level of Main Stream media if it did.
For those who were part of that post, and were at the game, did you carry those same sentiments (and turn your back) when Penn St actually did run onto the field? Were there exchanges between you or others towards Nittany Lion fans holding them morally accountable? Were there conversations that you had with loyal fans about the transgressions of the whole Sandusky situation? Or any other personal thoughts or actions?
Masses of folk generally do not like to rehash issues on here but I felt this issue was important and have great empathy for the victims as well.
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/give-joepa-horrific-silent-back-turned-send…
September 26th, 2016 at 10:02 AM ^
We couldnt organize a decent in-game protest when we all universally hated our AD and wanted him out. You're thinking we were able to now pull it off to show Penn State how unhappy we are with them?
September 26th, 2016 at 10:04 AM ^
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September 26th, 2016 at 10:07 AM ^
You poked the bear, WD.
September 26th, 2016 at 10:12 AM ^
But unless things have really changed in the past couple of years neither the diag nor the President's lawn would be considered "in-game".
Did they move the Big House while I've been gone?
September 26th, 2016 at 10:47 AM ^
They scooted it a few feet to the north to accommodate sewer improvements on Stadium.
September 26th, 2016 at 10:59 AM ^
Parking will be a challenge. Won't somebody think of the people with cars?
September 26th, 2016 at 10:23 AM ^
September 26th, 2016 at 10:25 AM ^
Did you participate in the angry mob rally?
September 26th, 2016 at 11:12 AM ^
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September 26th, 2016 at 11:26 AM ^
you must have REALLY been angry...
September 26th, 2016 at 1:09 PM ^
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September 26th, 2016 at 12:25 PM ^
Dave Brandon was not fired for sending off rude emails. It's very unprofessional, and definitely not something you want your athletic director doing, but that was not "one of the biggest reasons"
September 26th, 2016 at 12:41 PM ^
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September 26th, 2016 at 10:49 AM ^
I like this term when referring to PSU supporters willing to turn a blind eye to atrocities. Never heard it before today.
September 26th, 2016 at 10:07 AM ^
I think the team made a statement for me.
September 26th, 2016 at 1:47 PM ^
Penn State
September 26th, 2016 at 10:07 AM ^
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September 26th, 2016 at 10:22 AM ^
I'd love to hear whether Penn State fans were getting shit from Michigan fans regarding their school's robust history of enabling child rape. It can't be easy being an alum/fan for that school and going on the road.
For the record, I don't think they should get shit until they show themselves to be idiots like the JoePalogists (TM) behind you. I know a few of their alums who are appalled by what happened at their school, and one who stopped following and cheering for the team altogether after the facts came out. In your situation, I would have simply replied, "wow - still in denial, huh?" and turned around back to the field after PSU had taken the field.
September 26th, 2016 at 10:32 AM ^
There were notably FEWER PSU fans than in past games... usually a team that travels quite well. I can't help but think it's partly the fall out of the child rape problem.
I went with my buddy who is a PSU alum and fan... no one approached him directly with their concerns.
September 26th, 2016 at 10:39 AM ^
because of the expected rout of their team.
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September 26th, 2016 at 10:52 AM ^
it's because the team is not very good and not worth following around.
September 26th, 2016 at 12:22 PM ^
There were notably FEWER PSU fans than in past games... usually a team that travels quite well. I can't help but think it's partly the fall out of the child rape problem.
My neighbor (big PSU fan) used to always fly a Penn State flag on his porch in the fall, but has not done so since the scandal broke. I think a lot of PSU fans (outside of Happy Valley) are still embarrassed about the whole situation.
September 26th, 2016 at 12:40 PM ^
Yeah. I agree. I saw many more UCF folks tailgating in our vicinity than I did people from PSU.
September 26th, 2016 at 10:56 AM ^
The people in front of me said something about how they hoped they had a chance in this game or whatever, and I replied with "You lost this game last week." The patriarch of the group was confused, so I explained how their ceremony last week may have motivated Michigan this week.
Dude went from 0 to MOAR RAGE in a tenth of a second. To the best of my recollection, he said something like this: "What, so it's not OK to honor Joe Paterno? F--- you. Now I hope they win by 50! That's so ignorant! He wasn't the one diddling the kids."
I was too stunned to reply. This guy seemed perfectly normal one momemnt and was a raving lunatic the next. I guess I knew, intellectually, that they had people like that in their fanbase, but I guess I thought that the ones who escaped the protective bubble of central Pennsylvania would have a slightly more realistic worldview. Nope.
The other thing I remember from the guy was that he was seemingly offended that Carl Grapentine pronounced Nittany with three syllables. They seemed unanimous in their opinion that it only had two -- Nit-ney. I guess it's their version of the endless Brittany vs. Britney vs. Britni vs. whatever debates. I'd say that it made sense, but I think even Britney (Spears) has more class than PSU fans.
(That's a scary sentence).
September 26th, 2016 at 11:36 AM ^
The 0 to MOAR rage response is not surprising. I'm convinced a lot of the rage is based in having been duped into supporting and idolizing a man who, at a basic level, was at best a weak and morally decrepit fool. (Also, your comment was kind of in-yo-face. Not that you were necessarily wrong to make it, depending on the context. But you certainly flushed out a JoePalogist [TM] rather than him revealing himself to be one before you engaged.)
Of course we expect adults to be able to adjust their views on their heroes when damning evidence becomes available. Anyone who still idolizes, e.g., Lance Armstrong - just wow.
Based on the Grapentine comment (i.e., that the patriarch was offended by CG mispronouncing their made-up name for a mountain lion), it sounds like your patriarch got offended easily. That's not a great posture to assume when your beloved school is such an easy target, what with the aiding and abetting the rape of children and all.
So anyway, how'd the patriarch enjoy the rest of the game? Did PSU end up winning by 50?
September 26th, 2016 at 12:12 PM ^
You're right -- I did provoke him a bit. Then again, when I go to a game to cheer for the visitors, I sit respectfully and understand that most of the fans are cheering fervently for the exact opposite thing as am I. :-) Still, I have to admit, the continued existence of a Penn State fanbase upsets me in a way that, say, MSU fans can't, which certainly contributed to my state of mind.
Oddly, they didn't seem to make it to the end of the game. He probably just didn't want to be around a bunch of irrational Michigan fans after PSU completed its beatdown of the overrated, referee-paying Wolverines. :-)
September 27th, 2016 at 9:21 AM ^
They absolutely believe the B1G is out to get them. They call the rest of the B1G the Midwest Mafia.
September 26th, 2016 at 11:36 AM ^
There were a few near me, but as far as I know no one pulled the Joepa/Sandusky card. The way the game went it really wasn't necessary.
September 26th, 2016 at 10:23 AM ^
I saw a lot of faces looking back at the field (no backs), which made me 1) wish we could've organized a better protest and 2) remember the MGoCommunity may not be completely representative of the 110,000 in the stadium.
September 26th, 2016 at 11:51 AM ^
And the fans behind us laughed and followed our example briefly. It didn't make sense to continue the posture for long though.
September 26th, 2016 at 10:14 AM ^
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September 26th, 2016 at 10:38 AM ^
It does not because you grabbed a pop, not a soda.
September 26th, 2016 at 10:55 AM ^
Anyway, I couldn't have done anything from home even if I wanted to b/c the previous game on ABC went a bit over and the telecast cut to the Michigan game just before kickoff.
Unless they did show it and I was distracted by my kids... I mean, vicariously protesting PSU by ignoring the telecast and taking care of my children...
September 26th, 2016 at 11:15 AM ^
It's the correct short form of soda pop, much the same way you would ask for a "dog and a beer" and people would know what you mean, but get funny looks if you asked for a "hot and a beer."
September 26th, 2016 at 11:02 AM ^
But I was the only one I saw nearby. I thought everyone read this blog. How many of you did it at home to your TV?
September 26th, 2016 at 10:09 AM ^
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September 26th, 2016 at 10:11 AM ^
That's what it's all about.