It's presumably just...more money? The CBS/Turner pay just over $1 billion/year for the 67 games. Adding 13 more teams means 13 more games - could be tens or hundreds of millions of added dollars
These data are nowhere close to the US News rankings? LSU is 185 (https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/louisiana-state-university-baton-rouge-2010), not 8.
Notre Dame is on bye on 10/21, so there's no potential for a NBC shift on the M/MSU day. PSU/OSU is on 10/21, so it's likely to come down to which network has first pick for that week. If FOX has first pick that week and takes PSU/OSU, what else is NBC going to take?
WISC@ILL, MINN@IOWA, NW@NEB, RUT@IND. Even if MSU is 2-3 when NBC has to make the decision, it's unclear what else they would pick.
The game selection order varies week to week. There's a preseason draft of who picks first in which week. Fox has the first pick of that draft, and always pick the week of M/OSU to have first pick of games that week and then there's a draft of weeks from there. Fox gets more "first pick weeks" than NBC/CBS, but NBC/CBS do get some.
Basically entirely depends on which network has the first pick that week. MD@OSU and M@MINN are likely the two biggest Big Ten games. Likely that one ends up on FOX Big Noon and the other NBC night, but the schools don't really get a choice anymore, the networks pick based on their preseason draft of weeks
It was probably looking like the most likely Big Noon game at the start of season. Fox's picks are often B1G at Big Noon, and then Pac12 at 330ET. Would not have predicted Colorado playing a 10am local time game as Big Noon before the season started, and thus it bumps M to another slot.
The 21 days was not about the spread of the virus, but about the long-term health of the player due to the infection. The Big Ten wanted to mandate a long enough window to be sure to rule out any heart complications, etc.
How does Auburn losing a few games show that the SEC isn't that great this year when they are only playing conference games? Maybe the rest of the conference IS that great this year. (they probably aren't, but it's difficult to make a statement about the "SEC vs everybody else" when they aren't playing anybody else)
What's the logistical part of the football game? The game is at MSU. And there's no home game the next weekend either (10/17), so there's a home game gap from 10/3 to 10/24.
I was in the 3rd to last row of the upper deck, and the entire upper deck was standing pretty much the whole game. I didn't hear one complaint, (although there weren't too many people behind to hear complain)
Why would the PAT matter? Even if a PAT is blocked and returned, it's only worth 2pts on a PAT, not 6.
Team A goes first, throws interception for a Team B TD. Team B has now won the game by 6. Even if there's a PAT and it was returned by Team A, it's only worth 2 pts so Team B still wins. Team B offense doesn't need to take the field.
Team B goes first, scores (or doesn't.) Team A throws interception for a Team B TD. Team B has now won the game by at least 6, and as many as 14 (before PAT). Even if there's a PAT and it was returned by Team A, it's only worth 2 pts so Team B still wins.
I've been here for about 10 years now after growing up near Ann Arbor. It's a great area. Weather-wise it's basically like Michigan. Public schools go from pretty good to best-in-the-nation, depending how much you want to spend on a house. Like, Lexington is the highest achieving dot on this graph: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/29/upshot/money-race-and-su…, but many of the "less desirable" districts are still way above the national average, it's all relative.
It's an exciting place to live and work, with the downsides being expense and traffic. Really compare how far your dollar would go
The top 16 seeds (4 1-4's) are placed closest to home starting with #1. So by the time they get to the 4 seeds, there's nothing close to home left. The individual locations are not tied to a certain seed at all.
Interesting fact: The Christmas Tree in Boston Common is donated by Nova Scotia every year in honor of Boston's help in the Halifax explosion as mentioned in the excerpt
College football is on so many channels now that it seems like they don't really do regional coverage anymore. M/MSU is ABC's only primetime game on Sat. So if you get an ABC affiliate, and they're showing college football, it will be M/MSU.
The Drumline performs on the steps of Revelli Hall at about 10:30, followed by the band coming out to march to the stadium. Always lots of kids around for that
See some other posts in this thread, but yes, there's tryouts for every game, and yes, there's people who might not march a pregame all season (everybody gets to do homecoming halftime). The majority of upperclassmen would march most shows, along with a handful of underclassmen (depended on section a lot) And even if you struggled with the marching (there's no initial marching audition to join the band), I think for the most part, everybody who stuck with the band for all 4 years would at least get one pregame.
Yep. If you didn't make the "performance block", you still dress in uniform, still march to the stadium, still play in the stands, still play the postgame concert. The "tryouts" for a given week's game were a week or two ahead, sometimes as late as the Friday before the previous game. Then the marching block would be posted Monday morning and might have as little as 5 days to learn a new halftime show and rehearse the pregame. If you didn't make the marching block, you'd be a "reserve" for the week. Reserves still did all the music rehearsals (you're still playing in the stands and the postgame after all), but then would go work on marching skills during the rest of practice to prep for the next tryout. Many larger sections could have up to about 1/3 of their overall members as reserves each week.
I was in the band 03-06. The pregame size never changed and that was 235. I still don't think that's changed (think about the block M, it's always the same). Halftime would vary from week to week, usually a few dozen more people than pregame. The "travel squad" would be the halftime block plus another dozen or so to help out with equipment, be there in case someone got hurt/ill, etc. Everyone else who wasn't in the block for a given home game would still march to the stadium, play in the stands, and do the postgame concert.
At some point after my time I think they realized it was a bit of misnomer to announce "the 235 member Michigan Marching Band"... because the band is always more than 235.
Think they'll actually scan MCards at the gate to see which students are there early? If so, will my 7+ years-expired MCard no longer get me in without validation? Maybe they'll just use the scanned ticket data?
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It's presumably just...more money? The CBS/Turner pay just over $1 billion/year for the 67 games. Adding 13 more teams means 13 more games - could be tens or hundreds of millions of added dollars
These data are nowhere close to the US News rankings? LSU is 185 (https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/louisiana-state-university-baton-rouge-2010), not 8.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities?_sort=rank&_sortDirection=asc
Here's the full list of teams that appear in your table, with their 2024 US News ranking.
UCLA 15
Notre Dame 20
Michigan 21
UF 28
USC 28
Texas 32
Washington 40
OSU 43
Va Tech 47
UGA 47
FSU 53
MSU 60
Miami FL 67
Clemson 86
Auburn 93
TCU 98
Oregon 98
Tennessee 105
Utah 115
Oklahoma 124
Cincinnati 142
Nebraska 159
Alabama 170
Arkansas 178
LSU 185
Boise State 332
Tweet from @mgoblog at 2:48pm EST today:
UFR going to be this evening. Sign stuff ate the ol' life
When's the last time hockey played at Yost during an away football game? Seems likely to get a new time
Notre Dame is on bye on 10/21, so there's no potential for a NBC shift on the M/MSU day. PSU/OSU is on 10/21, so it's likely to come down to which network has first pick for that week. If FOX has first pick that week and takes PSU/OSU, what else is NBC going to take?
WISC@ILL, MINN@IOWA, NW@NEB, RUT@IND. Even if MSU is 2-3 when NBC has to make the decision, it's unclear what else they would pick.
The game selection order varies week to week. There's a preseason draft of who picks first in which week. Fox has the first pick of that draft, and always pick the week of M/OSU to have first pick of games that week and then there's a draft of weeks from there. Fox gets more "first pick weeks" than NBC/CBS, but NBC/CBS do get some.
It's described in this article from The Athletic:
https://theathletic.com/4730720/2023/07/31/big-ten-tv/
Basically entirely depends on which network has the first pick that week. MD@OSU and M@MINN are likely the two biggest Big Ten games. Likely that one ends up on FOX Big Noon and the other NBC night, but the schools don't really get a choice anymore, the networks pick based on their preseason draft of weeks
It was probably looking like the most likely Big Noon game at the start of season. Fox's picks are often B1G at Big Noon, and then Pac12 at 330ET. Would not have predicted Colorado playing a 10am local time game as Big Noon before the season started, and thus it bumps M to another slot.
+1 Chrome on iPhone takes forever to load Mgoblog. No other webpage is like this. I have to use Safari just for mgoblog.
The season opener in 2019 against MTSU was at night
SMH what a nutjob
The 21 days was not about the spread of the virus, but about the long-term health of the player due to the infection. The Big Ten wanted to mandate a long enough window to be sure to rule out any heart complications, etc.
LSU punter Brad Wing was one of the first to get flagged for this and have the TD disallowed, back in 2011
https://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/10/8/2477588/lsu-touchdown-penalty-celebration-brad-wing
How does Auburn losing a few games show that the SEC isn't that great this year when they are only playing conference games? Maybe the rest of the conference IS that great this year. (they probably aren't, but it's difficult to make a statement about the "SEC vs everybody else" when they aren't playing anybody else)
FWIW, BB&N is in Cambridge, not Andover. It's directly across the Charles from Harvard's Athletic campus.
A clear reference to this article Brian has been doing for years?
https://mgoblog.com/content/28-tickets-team-139-post-spring-edition
Saline had one of these a few years back. Not as long, but also no penalties called https://youtu.be/h1N1uPk2FPQ
What years were those costs?
Engineering in the 2019-2020 school year is $16,000-$21,000 in-state (depending on how many credits you already have) or $51,000-$59,000 out-of-state. LSA slightly less.
https://ro.umich.edu/sites/default/files/2019-09/FeeBulletin-2019-2020.pdf
Josh Jackson, Son of Fred, formerly of Saline, Maryland by way of VT.
This game was already announced as noon before the season (back in May). It's just the ABC part that is new.
What's the logistical part of the football game? The game is at MSU. And there's no home game the next weekend either (10/17), so there's a home game gap from 10/3 to 10/24.
Dude, it's Thursday
The old capacity was ~100,000 and they only have removed the bleachers under the scoreboard in this picture: https://www.fathead.com/college/texas-longhorns/texas-longhorns-stadium-wall-mural/
There's no way that's 34,000 seats. It's maybe 2,000? It's the band times about 4.
I was in the 3rd to last row of the upper deck, and the entire upper deck was standing pretty much the whole game. I didn't hear one complaint, (although there weren't too many people behind to hear complain)
ESPN has the game attendance at 98,763. Doesn't seem right that it's a temporary 66,000 capacity. Maybe more like 96,000?
Why would the PAT matter? Even if a PAT is blocked and returned, it's only worth 2pts on a PAT, not 6.
Team A goes first, throws interception for a Team B TD. Team B has now won the game by 6. Even if there's a PAT and it was returned by Team A, it's only worth 2 pts so Team B still wins. Team B offense doesn't need to take the field.
Team B goes first, scores (or doesn't.) Team A throws interception for a Team B TD. Team B has now won the game by at least 6, and as many as 14 (before PAT). Even if there's a PAT and it was returned by Team A, it's only worth 2 pts so Team B still wins.
NBC’s contract is for Notre Dame home games. Notre Dame away games fall under the TV contracts of the opponent
M alum Mike O'Brien was a writer for 7 seasons starting in '09 and was a featured player in '13-14. He went on to create the NBC show "AP Bio"
At a very minimum, they'd have to announce the M/MSU gametime on Monday the 15th, which only gives them 2 games of NLCS to know.
Home/away are backwards for Neb/NW/Maryland, should be Neb, @NW, MD
I've been here for about 10 years now after growing up near Ann Arbor. It's a great area. Weather-wise it's basically like Michigan. Public schools go from pretty good to best-in-the-nation, depending how much you want to spend on a house. Like, Lexington is the highest achieving dot on this graph: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/29/upshot/money-race-and-su…, but many of the "less desirable" districts are still way above the national average, it's all relative.
It's an exciting place to live and work, with the downsides being expense and traffic. Really compare how far your dollar would go
The top 16 seeds (4 1-4's) are placed closest to home starting with #1. So by the time they get to the 4 seeds, there's nothing close to home left. The individual locations are not tied to a certain seed at all.
When did SNA become associated as a Michigan thing? There's a million other traditions they could've said. Who wrote that copy? Ugh
Interesting fact: The Christmas Tree in Boston Common is donated by Nova Scotia every year in honor of Boston's help in the Halifax explosion as mentioned in the excerpt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Christmas_Tree#Halifax_explosion
Edit: Article about this year's tree just came out: https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2017/10/30/heres-the-christmas-tree-nova-scotia-is-giving-boston-for-the-100th-anniversary-of-the-halifax-explosion
College football is on so many channels now that it seems like they don't really do regional coverage anymore. M/MSU is ABC's only primetime game on Sat. So if you get an ABC affiliate, and they're showing college football, it will be M/MSU.
Bowl is still this season. So he can't play the bowl game and still get a medical redshirt
The Drumline performs on the steps of Revelli Hall at about 10:30, followed by the band coming out to march to the stadium. Always lots of kids around for that
They say that the Rose Parade was never on Sundays in the early days because the horses could be spooked by the church bells.
Greatest Sir Patrick S. to come to Michigan Stadium since this guy:
See some other posts in this thread, but yes, there's tryouts for every game, and yes, there's people who might not march a pregame all season (everybody gets to do homecoming halftime). The majority of upperclassmen would march most shows, along with a handful of underclassmen (depended on section a lot) And even if you struggled with the marching (there's no initial marching audition to join the band), I think for the most part, everybody who stuck with the band for all 4 years would at least get one pregame.
Yep. If you didn't make the "performance block", you still dress in uniform, still march to the stadium, still play in the stands, still play the postgame concert. The "tryouts" for a given week's game were a week or two ahead, sometimes as late as the Friday before the previous game. Then the marching block would be posted Monday morning and might have as little as 5 days to learn a new halftime show and rehearse the pregame. If you didn't make the marching block, you'd be a "reserve" for the week. Reserves still did all the music rehearsals (you're still playing in the stands and the postgame after all), but then would go work on marching skills during the rest of practice to prep for the next tryout. Many larger sections could have up to about 1/3 of their overall members as reserves each week.
Source: In the band 03-06.
I was in the band 03-06. The pregame size never changed and that was 235. I still don't think that's changed (think about the block M, it's always the same). Halftime would vary from week to week, usually a few dozen more people than pregame. The "travel squad" would be the halftime block plus another dozen or so to help out with equipment, be there in case someone got hurt/ill, etc. Everyone else who wasn't in the block for a given home game would still march to the stadium, play in the stands, and do the postgame concert.
At some point after my time I think they realized it was a bit of misnomer to announce "the 235 member Michigan Marching Band"... because the band is always more than 235.
geez Pete, no need to out anybody's online profiles.
2003 and can't believe saline even makes the playoffs. didn't happen once during my entire 12 years of school
Sweet Caroline's didn't renew, so the official UM Club of Greater Boston location starting in 2014 is:
McGreevy's
www.mcgreevysboston.com/
911 Boylston St, Boston, MA 02115
Tavern in the Square (Porter Square) is still the spot in Cambridge
http://alumni.umich.edu/clubs/boston
Much like MSU basketball, Yahoo also peaked during the 99-00 season.
Think they'll actually scan MCards at the gate to see which students are there early? If so, will my 7+ years-expired MCard no longer get me in without validation? Maybe they'll just use the scanned ticket data?
8:15 MST, that's 10:15 EST
A late one!
He's Assistant Vice President of Marketing Communications at Saint Joseph's University
Edit: forgot the "Assistant". It is "Assistant" and not "Assistant to the" fyi