Records of the 10 youngest teams in CFB

Submitted by Occam's Razor on

This board needs to take a chill pill and go with the flow for the remainder of the season. 

I was listening to Michigan Podcast last night (good listen for all of you on the ledge) and a list of the 10 youngest CFB teams was brought up in a tweet by Michael Spath per Phil Steele. 

The respective records are: 

UM. 5-2

USC. 6-2

MSU. 6-1

Ill. 2-5

Duke. 4-4

Ark. 2-5

Pitt. 3-5

Stanford. 5-2

TAMU. 5-2

UF. 3-3

 

I'd say 5-2 is pretty damn good considering we don't have an Oline, QB, de facto RB or WRs like many of these other schools do. (Looking at you Stanford, USC and TAMU especially!!!)

I doubt a Jim Harbaugh Michigan is sitting at 5-2 with talent like Bryce Love, Sam Darnold, Stanford Olinemen, or Christian Kirk suiting up for the Maize n Blue. 

Yes, we probably should be 6-1 but shit always happens against MSU. 

We got 3 weeks of semi-decent teams to improve against until Wisconsin and OSU. 

Relax. 

 

 

 

lilpenny1316

October 25th, 2017 at 11:45 PM ^

Harbaugh coached like he didn't realize a murderstorm was in the forecast.  Then when it arrived, he still tried the passing game, which were basically throwaway plays until the last drive, when the rain was pretty much over.

Two weeks to prepare for MSU and you put no wrinkle out there, like designed rollouts for your athletic QB.  And whatever running plays we tried to hold onto until PSU should've been used in that game.

We got outcoached. 

Kevin14

October 26th, 2017 at 11:16 AM ^

Michigan State got a lead early then went completely into turtle mode and minimized their risk of turnovers because they knew it was the only way they could lose.  They also didn't play one of their most turnover-prone players LJ Scott.  Yeah, they recovered two of their own fumbles, but one (the QB fumble) wasn't exactly a 50/50 shot at recovery.  

Michigan had some bad luck - notably the two fumbles they lost, the enitire turnover differential wasn't due to luck.  One team was calling pass plays with a new starting QB in a monsoon while the other was completely fine going three and out repeatedly.  

bronxblue

October 26th, 2017 at 9:18 PM ^

MSU threw 9 passes in the 2nd half of that game; Michigan threw 12 before the final drive, when obviously they needed to do so to move the ball.  This notion that MSU turtled for 2.5 quarters is completely revisionist; I don't think at any point did MSU look at 14-10 early in the 3rd quarter and say "I'm sure this will hold up; we should try to bleed the clock".   

In reply to by SpilledMilk

gmoney41

October 26th, 2017 at 12:07 PM ^

2 weeks to prepare for msu and we show nothing new, 2 weeks for psu to prepare for us, and Harbaugh and co. get completely outclassed in the coaching dept. by James Franklin for Christ sake.

Double-D

October 26th, 2017 at 12:25 PM ^

He then fumbles twice on the one yard line his last game against Florida. Good coaching? Bad coaching in bowl prep? Random bad luck? It’s not hard to coach a kid how to hold the ball. Isaac did have the ball in the wrong hand against MSU. I believe that fumble set the tone and cost us the game.

BigBlue02

October 26th, 2017 at 1:16 AM ^

Thoroughly outcoached is ridiculous. Because they happened to play less shitty than us doesn’t mean Dantonio is a coaching wizard. If Michigan is plus 5 in the turnover battle against any team we play and we only win by 4 points, I will be pretty annoyed with Harbaugh.

Blueblood2991

October 26th, 2017 at 1:44 AM ^

So you'd be pretty annoyed with only winning by 4, but losing after giving up 5 turnovers doesn't do it?

Everyone knew a bad storm was coming. Dantonio played with urgency while the weather was good, and then pounded the rock and protected the ball when the rain started. We fucked around in the first half, and then decided to run an air raid in a monsoon even though Higdon was getting 5.5 yds a carry.

No it doesn't make Dantonio a wizard, and Harbaugh is the better coach. But giving the rbs 28 carries while having JOK throw 35 times in high winds and a downpour in his first start of the season is just flat out bad coaching.

WorldwideTJRob

October 26th, 2017 at 2:01 AM ^

Sound strategy against an offense that couldn’t get out of its own way. Why shoot yourself in the foot when the other team is doing it for you? That to me is very good coaching. You don’t have to come up with some great strategy or scheme to have a great coaching performance, sometimes you can just stick to the basics.

BigBlue02

October 26th, 2017 at 10:53 AM ^

I’m not sure why you think I’m not annoyed with the loss. I never said so or implied that, so thank you for setting up a straw man to argue against. And your memory of the first half was different than mine. We didn’t “fuck around” in the first half as much as we turned the ball over, which led to all their points. I give credit to Dantonio for not being a shitty coach, but I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again-Dantonio is a good coach, but not because of this game. Not fucking up a gift of 5 turnovers is what hopefully any coach does. I’d be interested to see if anyone in football history has ever been +5 in the turnover battle and lost the game

Carpetbagger

October 26th, 2017 at 9:08 AM ^

I get the hate of Dantonio, but I never understand the disrepect. Guy outcoached Harbaugh this time. I'd say the record is 1-1-1 on coaching in 3 games now, which isn't bad.

Dantonio has turned a bunch of 2 and 3 stars into B10 titles and a playoff appearance. And he's done it for over 10 years. What other coach can say that in today's game? The only coach who has consistently outcoached him is Nick Saban, and just about everyone can say that.

He's might be the best coach in the B10, but he is most certainly the equal of Harbaugh and Meyer.

SeattleWolverine

October 26th, 2017 at 9:22 AM ^

The funerals for MSU and ND during the offseason were fun since Dantonio is a dick and Kelly is the world's most irate person, but it always felt premature. It was perfectly reasonable to question those programs' directions after last season. But the same rationale being used to give Harbaugh the benefit of the doubt now- the long track records of success- probably should have been considered in thinking about whether those programs were going to implode long-term. Unfortunately, Bob Davie and Bobby Williams they are not. 

saveferris

October 26th, 2017 at 7:51 AM ^

Probably a lot, since there's a good chance we're leading or at the very least trailing by only a single score at halftime and Dantonio suddenly has to take some risks of his own to try and win the game.

The MSU game wasn't Harbaugh's best job coaching to be sure, but can we please stop chalknig up MSU's victory to Dantonio's "genius".  We gifted him 7 of his 14 points and then he spent the rest of the game running into our D-line and telling his defense and special teams to try not to make a mistake and give up a big play.

MSU didn't win that game, we lost it.  We did the same thing in 2015.  It sucks.  MSU trolls will hoot and holler about how Michigan and Harbaugh are overrated and how we're making excuses, etc, but facts are still facts.  Dantonio has yet to produce a game plan that out-strategizes Harbaugh's game plan.  We stop shooting ourselves in the foot and we're going to stop having this debate.

It's a long wait until we face off again next October, but I have complete confidence that we're going to East Lansing next season and winning that game because we'll have Rashan Gary, Tarik Black, Khaleke Hudson, Devin Bush, Aubrey Solomon, DPJ, and so on...and MSU won't.

UMxWolverines

October 26th, 2017 at 7:57 AM ^

Sound logic, "we win because we have these players and MSU doesn't, while facing the same MSU team we faced this year except on the road". Aren't you the same one that said two weeks ago "There's only one team from Michigan that will compete for the big ten title this year, and it isn't MSU"?

GomezBlue

October 26th, 2017 at 2:01 PM ^

But, we sure do a lot of disrespecting.  "MSU didn't win that game, we lost it." Why is the world do you say that?  They drove the field on us, and racked up more rushing yards than anyone until PSU.  They pretty much gifted us our TD. Also, they dropped a sure first down near the 20 before halftime that would have easily been 3 points, maybe seven.  They used the rain to their advantage and turtled pretty much the entire second half.  You have complete confidence we'll win next year...how was your confidence this year?  They mark our game on their calendar, and we laugh it off and say it's just another game, "they aren't a National brand." 

"Disrespekt" MSU all you want.  I tend to go with the fact they're a good team with an excellent coach, and it will take commitment and focus to beat them next year.  They take this game seriously.  It's time we do, too.