OT-Tigers trade Verlander to Astros at 11:59 pm deadline
September 1st, 2017 at 12:34 PM ^
But that IS in slow motion.
September 1st, 2017 at 12:22 AM ^
Tigers at 11:59 p.m. tonight completed the Justin Verlander deal with Houston. Verlander to the Astros.
— Lynn G. Henning (@Lynn_Henning) September 1, 2017
September 1st, 2017 at 12:22 AM ^
What did they get?
September 1st, 2017 at 12:24 AM ^
A bucket of water?
September 1st, 2017 at 9:50 AM ^
Bucket of warm spit and a smaller payroll. Sigh...
September 1st, 2017 at 12:28 AM ^
deep system.
September 1st, 2017 at 8:09 AM ^
They received the Astros top pitching prospect and two other players. This trade needed to happen for a past-his-prime pitcher. Great trade for the Tigers!8
September 1st, 2017 at 10:04 AM ^
For rebuilding, cost-saving, and talent-restocking purposes, but NOT because JV is past his prime. He may be (at 34), but the guy has been lights-out since the All-Star break.
"Past his prime" would correctly describe all of our closers for the past 6-8 years (J-Willy and Greeney excluded).
EDIT: And dude is one year removed from finishing 2nd in the AL Cy Young voting, only because two idiot writers from Tampa didn't even have him on their ballots (which was inexcusable).
September 1st, 2017 at 9:19 AM ^
Do we get to keep Kate Upton?
September 1st, 2017 at 12:27 AM ^
I realize this is necessary. Verlander gets to pitch for a competitive team. The Tigers need to shed salary and rebuild.
But I really, really, really hate this.
He's not just a ballplayer. He's JV. He's OUR ballplayer.
September 1st, 2017 at 12:27 AM ^
Right there with you, I would've been happier had they done this in the winter that way there could have been some closure
September 1st, 2017 at 7:50 AM ^
Unbelievable. JD, then Upton, now Verlander. But we're still stuck with V- Mart. I honestly believe the Mud Hens would be competitive with what's left on the Tigers. Oh well, wait 'til next decade.
September 1st, 2017 at 8:50 AM ^
They would have traded him too if anyone wanted him...but they don't...because he's toast. Likely just going to have to watch him struggle for another year. Seeing as though he comes across as kind of a front-runner, it gives me slight pleasure that he will have to end his career in purgatory.
September 1st, 2017 at 9:40 AM ^
His salary/contract is done next year. At least.
September 1st, 2017 at 10:34 AM ^
I'm not a cardiologist, I'm not wishing anything bad of V-Mart, and I'm not trivializing his health issues in favor a business decision, but he's been on the DL twice this year with heart issues. There's a non-zerio chance he could hang it up, like Jiri Fischer. I don't know what the ramifications of that decision would be (i.e., if the Tigers would still take a cap hit). When Datsyuk retired, the Wings will had to trade away his cap hit. I don't know if MLB works the same.
September 1st, 2017 at 10:51 AM ^
If we are competetive again by then, great move.
September 1st, 2017 at 12:16 PM ^
I mean, who is going to take V-Mart? There's a reason the other three got traded and he didnt...
September 1st, 2017 at 12:32 AM ^
that sentimental shit is how you fuck a team for years.
September 1st, 2017 at 12:38 AM ^
If any of Houston's players from this trade end up being starters on a Tigers playoff team, I'll eat my hat (the Tigers one, not the M one).
September 1st, 2017 at 3:23 AM ^
3 top 11 prospects from the 3rd best farm system in the league? I'll take that bet
September 1st, 2017 at 10:49 AM ^
that one of them is the 11th-best prospect.
September 1st, 2017 at 11:23 AM ^
He is a top 40 prospect in all of baseball. He should have a bright future ahead of him.
September 1st, 2017 at 12:38 AM ^
Right. This is serious business. No room for pansies in sports fandom who have an attachment to an all time player.
September 1st, 2017 at 6:27 AM ^
What most aren't willing to admit, the attachment is more to Kate than anyone else...
September 1st, 2017 at 8:50 AM ^
Nah, this is a Cy Young winner who basicallytook the team over in the early part of the decade and had a lot of fantastic years in Detroit. Kate's a bonus but JV was more than that.
September 1st, 2017 at 12:15 PM ^
She wsa Mich fan long before connecting with JV.
September 1st, 2017 at 12:43 AM ^
And without attachment to the players there's no reason to follow the team.
September 1st, 2017 at 3:25 AM ^
Wrong. Especially when talking to a group of people who avidly follow teams who only have a player for 3-4 years and then they're gone.
September 1st, 2017 at 7:04 AM ^
I personally feel more attached to Michigan players than any of the pro teams' players that I follow. I also care much more about Michigan football than said pro teams.
September 1st, 2017 at 8:35 AM ^
and additionally considering we follow these players through recruiting as well as often times their pro careers I would say our attachment spans more than 3-4 years
September 1st, 2017 at 8:39 AM ^
Agreed. I cheer for the winged helmet, not necessarily the guys who wear it.
September 1st, 2017 at 7:31 AM ^
Exactly. Hasn't Detroit seen this enough times: 80's Tigers, Bad Boys Pistons, Goin' to Work Pistons, Wings, Lions.
Wait. Scratch that last one.
September 1st, 2017 at 8:12 AM ^
Meh, we're fans. We can be sentimental all we want. I realize it was the right thing to do, but you can't tell me not to be upset about losing JV too. Forever my Tiger
September 1st, 2017 at 8:45 AM ^
I am increasingly disinterested in pro sports. There is very little that's fair about them, when all is said and done. When teams like the Lakers can cheat because they know they can afford the fines. . .
And although I follow the logic in arguments by those who say we have to professionalize college sports, too, the ideal of amateur sport is pretty much over, has pretty been RUN over by a gold-plated Humvee. I don't like the guys in the yellow and plaid sports jackets.
As my mama used to say, "I'm glad I'm going!"
September 1st, 2017 at 12:36 AM ^
He was the only reason I was even listening to games by August. Wanted to see him get to 3000 Ks with us but alas.
September 1st, 2017 at 8:36 AM ^
And sure, I don't see him winning anymore Cy Youngs but some people are over-saying the whole "he's past his prime" thing... he did get 2nd in the Cy Young voting just one season ago. He started off this year poorly but his ERA is creeping back down to mid 3 ERAs.
September 1st, 2017 at 8:42 AM ^
Detach yourself from these guys.
They are playing a professional sport to make money and earn fame. As much as it is nice to say and gives us the warm and fuzzies, they do not care about us.
September 1st, 2017 at 10:23 AM ^
Not even detachment. I'm happy for Verlander. He's on a good team now, and he may finally get that WS ring.
Plus, the Tigers need to rebuild. It was a good run from 06-2014, but it's over. We came close twice. It's time to move on. Build another winner, and the fans will stay.
September 1st, 2017 at 10:45 AM ^
Whoa. Who could have known all this? Sorry, but this kind of hot take is annoying. If you are detached, you most likely have something better to do with your life than comment on a message board. The whole point is to be attached. If there is no emotion in it at all, why the fuck would anyone watch? It would just be a transactional occurrence with empty seats.
In fact, I would argue and have that there is more to be gained by watching a career of someone like JV or Miggy than there is in having one brief moment of glory in Oct/Nov of one year to get a championship that you yourself would say we should be detached from.
Unless you have some other connection to the game, your take makes absolutely no common sense whatsoever.
September 1st, 2017 at 11:55 AM ^
1) The hot take thing is pretty played out. Moved on from that.
2) I have ZERO CLUE how you pulled that out from what I said. I want the team to win. I'm attached to teams. I don't get attached to players.
September 1st, 2017 at 12:24 AM ^
I'll miss JV and the memories he gave, but dude never complained and was as genuine as they come.
September 1st, 2017 at 12:27 AM ^
Fuck Avila
September 1st, 2017 at 12:45 AM ^
Why? For doing what's right for the organization?
September 1st, 2017 at 1:07 AM ^
Fuck Wolverine Devotee
September 1st, 2017 at 7:49 AM ^
WD with the hot take hoping for upvotes.
I hate seeing JV go. I remember getting his autograph and speaking with him his rookie year when they played in Cleveland. I knew he had that some extra. He is the only Tigers jersey I bought.
While I am sad to see him leave I am excited for him to hopefully finish a career fighting for a title than being stuck on a team reabuilding.
Also good on Avila for getting some decent prospects when everyone said they would get nothing because of JV's salary.
September 1st, 2017 at 12:28 AM ^
Baseball is broken and has lost me entirely. I guess growing up in an era when guys like Trammel, Parrish, and Whitaker played all or most of their careers for one team ruined me for spin-the-bottle baseball.
September 1st, 2017 at 1:06 AM ^
This guy spent 13 years with the Tigers. He gave his all for us. He waived his no-trade because the Tigers wanted (needed) to trade him. If he didn't waive it, it would have been sentimental but detrimental to the Tigers.
Sucks that these 13 years have to end this way, and it's sad/crazy, but he's still spent most of his career with the Tigers and his departure is going to speed the rebuild that needs to happen.
Plenty of things to complain about re: baseball, but JV being traded after a loyal 13 years for the benefit of his team isn't one of them.