OT: Better Call Saul season finale

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Tonight at 10pm on AMC Will we see visually how Hector comes to his condition on Breaking Bad? Does Odenkirk have a shot at an Emmy? ... or how I about the actors/actresses that play Kim, Chuck, and Mike ? Anyone notice Jimmy used the same fictional tequila that Gus uses in Breaking Bad to poison Don eladio in Breaking Bad? And poor Irene! Those scenes with her last week were tough to watch. Nice filming scene last week of Kim in her post-accident

northkent40

June 19th, 2017 at 9:44 PM ^

that finds Mike's storyline more interesting than Jimmy"s?  Not that the whole Jimmy to Saul transformation hasn't been worth the watch, but something about Mike's character has always been fascinating to me.  

Mr. Owl

June 20th, 2017 at 11:37 AM ^

Mike is easily the best part of the show.  Somehow I think he works best as the part you yearn for more of.  Too much would get old at some point.  Wish he had a part this one, but that makes the next time that much better.

enlightenedbum

June 19th, 2017 at 11:38 PM ^

Seems unlikely.  They're still haggling over season 4 last I checked, much less 5/6/7.  And story wise, the drug half is getting perilously close to the status quo when we meet Gus in BB.  Which means it's just Jimmy -> Saul and the last couple episodes accomplished a lot of that transition, though the finale tried to put that genie back in the bottle at least a little.

enlightenedbum

June 20th, 2017 at 10:59 AM ^

I think a lot of what makes it interesting will fade away after he's Saul.  We know how that story ends, what we don't know is why a well meaning but ethically shaky guy named Jimmy McGill becomes criminal lawyer Saul Goodman.  That's an interesting story and what leads him down that path is what I want to see.  Though I guess I'm kind of anti-heroed out at this point so when Jimmy becomes a genuinely bad person I won't be as invested.  Except for rooting for Kim to escape.

Dantana

June 20th, 2017 at 3:17 PM ^

I read on another site that there was roughly 7 (fictional) years between where they are at right now with Saul and the start Breaking Bad. Not sure how true that is, I didn't bother to put the clues together myself, but I hope so. Love the show. More Mike and Gus, though.

Charmandar

June 20th, 2017 at 9:50 AM ^

I thought Jimmy was a cheap ass lawyer with a loose sense of morality, but the Irene stuff showed what a complete slimeball he is.

LKLIII

June 20th, 2017 at 6:02 PM ^

He did, but not before the damage was done.  And on "Talking Saul" after the show, they drew a distinction in the evolution of the Jimmy character.  Before, the victims of Jimmy's schemes were either jerks/kind of deserved it or the victims were unintentional consequences of his actions.  In the Irene case, it was still an OK goal (yes it helped him, but it was also getting the money into the old folks' hands when they could still use it), but the damage was absolutely purposeful to theoretically achieve OK but not terrible ends.

The final phase would be to cause damage to just help himself only, with no real veneer of nobility or positives for anybody else.

And when he did try to put the toothpaste back in the tube, he did it in a self-immolating kind of way.  It's like he's got this self-hatred thing going on.

 

 

drjaws

June 20th, 2017 at 10:22 AM ^

and I tried so hard to get into this series but I just couldn't.  I find myself screwing around on my phone half way through every episode. 

ST3

June 20th, 2017 at 1:38 PM ^

During the scene in which Chuck was trying to find the source of the stray electricity, I kept thinking back to the episode where Mike pretended to be a handyman to fix Chuck's door. In the episode recaps, they mention that Mike snuck in to photograph how miserable Chuck's living conditions were. But I seem to remember Mike doing more than that. Like, what if Mike installed a recording device in the walls and that what was drawing the excess energy? What if Jimmy was the reason Chuck committed suicide? Losing his career and the respect of his peers is pretty bad, but what if Jimmy drove him to suicide? If I get a chance, I'm going to re-watch episode 4 to see exactly what Mike did. It was strange that Mike wasn't in the finale at all, but his "presence" or lack thereof haunted the episode for me because of episode 4. But I could be just imagining things.

Still, great show. I was also struck by how different this show is than Game of Thrones, yet I'd say those are the two best shows on TV right now. When someone asks, what kind of show do I like, I respond "good shows." And nothing better exemplifies that than a list that includes BOTH GoT and Better Call Saul.

champswest

June 20th, 2017 at 2:21 PM ^

the split between Jimmy and Kim. Would it be the widening ethical and work ethic gap? Or, some other issue? Or, is the office split going to just cause a slow drift.

LKLIII

June 20th, 2017 at 5:55 PM ^

Yeah, that's my concern too.  It's possible it's just ethical drift, but the accident really seemed to shake up Kim.  She could just decide to re-evaluate her life as an attorney and leave the show that way.  Or they could drift apart ethically.

Another possiblity is that Kim ends up being inadvertently victimized by one of Jimmy's scams/behaviors.  Like, they both pull off one of those con-man scams at the fancy bars, but Kim gets caught whereas Jimmy doesn't.  Kim loses her license/goes to jail whereas Jimmy goes scott free becasue she protects him or something--thus causing the break-up.

Anyway, jettisoning the senior citizen business model is another step towards Jimmy--> Saul. 

I could see the way Jimmy converting to Saul is that he finally gets his license back, the Sandpiper settlement comes in, and in a fit of desperation, Jimmy uses the settlement money for big burst of advertising as Saul Goodman.  And ironically, he decides that chanigng his name to Saul Goodman is BETTER for his legal career becasue people won't compare him to his brother and/or get tied up in the controversial nature of his brother.

I Like Burgers

June 21st, 2017 at 10:16 AM ^

Yeah the impetus for the permanent name change makes a little more sense after the finale. If (SPOILER ALERT) Jimmy McGill's name is trash with the senior community and the McGill name is general is tarnished because of his nut job brother's suicide, those are two pretty compelling reasons to change your name.

Mr. Owl

June 20th, 2017 at 7:41 PM ^

I'm hoping this show ends next season (it's likely to be the last) with Kim stopping at the Cinnabun.  Happy endings don't tend to be a thing there, so I'll be happy with just a great season.

Zoltanrules

June 20th, 2017 at 10:53 PM ^

The first one inspired the famous "Chicago Sun Roof".

I really have gotten attached to Kim and Nacho this past season. It's odd but entertaining knowing the fate of characters but not knowing how they get there... yet.

Solecismic

June 20th, 2017 at 3:45 PM ^

Another solid season. Both brothers have these unusual problem-solving abilities, but very different manifestations of guilt (Chuck with his disorder and Jimmy with his sudden bursts of empathy and grand gestures). We seem really, really close to Jimmy->Saul and the Gus/Mike story is in place. What I'm dreading is that something has to happen to Kim to move from Jimmy to Saul. It's more and more apparent that she is the love of his life.

YoBoMoLoHo

June 20th, 2017 at 5:06 PM ^

Season 1 was pretty good. The show has gotten worse in each season since that first season. Take a step back. Then re-watch the first 2 seasons in order. You'll see the regression of the writing. Its almost un-watchable now. Also, watch any season of Breaking Bad. Then compare that to this current season of Better Call Sall. You'll notice a huge decrease in the quality of the writing. Its sad.

Wingsfan1

June 20th, 2017 at 6:26 PM ^

I have trouble with going back in time and people who are younger (but look older). Is Lydia the only one who looks as good as Breaking Bad? Hot or not? Didn't really feel bad about Chucks relapse, but getting crisp in a fire is no way to go. Good possibility Mike planted another power outlet in his house.

Solecismic

June 21st, 2017 at 2:50 PM ^

It's more likely the small amount of current still in use was powering the meter itself, which had been turned on when Chuck had the electricity restored. Mike may be skilled, but we didn't see any evidence he was setting up some sort of outlet that would run when the electricity was turned off (another source, perhaps the neighbor's house). And if so, it wouldn't register on Chuck's meter.

fksljj

June 21st, 2017 at 12:56 AM ^

Haven't had a chance to sit down for season 3 yet but hopefully the pace picks up a little bit. The first two seasons were a bit of a snooze fest.