Kneel formation fake play
In last night's Purdue vs Arizona game, the Boilermakers had the ball in their territory with ~1 minute until halftime and a 14-point lead. They lined up in a "safe" formation, typically used for kneeling the ball and running out the clock. They then ran a fake, advancing well into Arizona territory on a play where most of the defense stood still at the snap.
Is this a saavy move by an up-and-coming coach that shows you never stop competing, as the media suggested? Or has he compromised the integrity of a mutual concession to run out the clock? Having seen it, I would have no problem with any DL blowing up Purdue's OL on an actual kneel.
Maybe someone would be kind enough to embed a video for me.
December 28th, 2017 at 9:02 AM ^
December 28th, 2017 at 9:28 AM ^
We've known Purdue is bush league since October
December 28th, 2017 at 9:45 AM ^
Can he please beat a bush league, douche Purdue coach once in his lifetime?
December 28th, 2017 at 10:52 AM ^
The RichRod era was a disaster. I will never forget that Gator Bowl game against Mississippi State. There was really no good choice for a winner last night
December 28th, 2017 at 11:37 AM ^
The loss was bad and was made infintely worse by those fucking cowbells...
December 28th, 2017 at 11:00 AM ^
He did beat Danny Hope and Purdue in 2010, finishing 1-1 against that particular douchebag.
December 28th, 2017 at 11:10 AM ^
After the multi-OT win against Illinois, I tuned out that game. He had so few wins here, but I somehow forgot about that game.
December 28th, 2017 at 11:22 AM ^
It should have been a rout but Denard threw a long pick six to make it closer than it should have been.
That was his last win at Michigan. I've blocked out all the games after that.
December 28th, 2017 at 2:38 PM ^
I was at Michigan Stadium with a group for the Wisconsin game--near the ignominious end. We were in the student section as usual but it was invaded by Badgers that Michigan students had sold their tickets to. Just in front of us, this girl yelled "On, Wisconsin!' after every Badger first down. The Badgers had a LOT of first downs. Terrible stuff.
Thanks for the memories, RichRod
December 28th, 2017 at 5:35 PM ^
He must have forgoten the Speight late hit. It's already on as far as I'm concerned.
December 29th, 2017 at 12:49 PM ^
Busch Light.
December 28th, 2017 at 9:03 AM ^
December 28th, 2017 at 9:05 AM ^
December 28th, 2017 at 9:07 AM ^
December 28th, 2017 at 9:13 AM ^
The fake spike did work. Just worked too well cause it faked out the refs as well.
December 28th, 2017 at 9:37 AM ^
ask ben roethlesberger about fake spike plays
December 28th, 2017 at 9:06 AM ^
Did not watch.
December 28th, 2017 at 9:08 AM ^
December 28th, 2017 at 9:37 AM ^
Needs attention
December 28th, 2017 at 10:30 AM ^
because
December 28th, 2017 at 9:08 AM ^
This play eventually lead to 3 points, they won by three points. Totally fine with it, whatever it takes.
On a side note, what is up with Purdue's D-coordinator, is that dude on roids or what?
December 28th, 2017 at 9:15 AM ^
Nick Holt is a lunatic. He really stands out on the sideline when the camera pans his way. There is no compliment in there either.
December 28th, 2017 at 9:24 AM ^
December 28th, 2017 at 9:27 AM ^
December 28th, 2017 at 11:16 AM ^
without sound, so I didn't get the back story. During games I exchange texts with two buddies from MoJo days and asked them "who is the 80s movie villain on the Purdue sideline?"
Michigan is unstoppable at Samuel's birthday parties. He is nine and I have watched Michigan beat Notre Dame twice (both Rich Rod wins) and the Colorado and Purdue games from the past two seasons. Those first two were particularly delicious given the bevy of Catholic OSU fans and one now-BIL who's a Notre Dame fan in attendance.
December 28th, 2017 at 2:16 PM ^
Nope, it's attacking under a flag of truce. Bush league. I'm sure next year the UM QB is going to get rocked trying to kneel and the Sparty or Boiler ass who does it will point to this play as an excuse.
December 28th, 2017 at 9:11 AM ^
RR said that the officials told Arizona players not to rush because Purdue was kneeling. RR felt the play should not have counted because of that. I agree with RR. The officials helped Purdue on that play, unintentionally, but that doesn't matter.
That play is going to change how kneeling at the end of halfs is dealt with by defenses in the future.
December 28th, 2017 at 9:25 AM ^
December 28th, 2017 at 9:42 AM ^
It was a legal play and the refs have no right to ever tell any team not to play hard. They should be punished for interjecting themselves into the game if they indeed did so.
December 28th, 2017 at 10:03 AM ^
December 28th, 2017 at 10:17 AM ^
December 29th, 2017 at 1:54 AM ^
Why don't both teams just stipulate to go to halftime and skip the pointless snap-and-kneel?
The defense should play football and they should take advice from their coaches, not the referees.
December 28th, 2017 at 1:34 PM ^
"blowing up a kneel down" means diving at the O-lines knees. Some teams may do this at the end of a game out of frustration or to somehow knock the ball loose during the snap - one last desperation effort. Most of the time in kneel down situations other than end of game, the defense will still push into the line, but not dive at the knees. Player safety is not an issue here, have your guys play the snap as they normally would and it's fine.
December 28th, 2017 at 9:27 AM ^
There will be a rule change sometime soon because of this. Wouldn't surprised if OSU pulls this type of play at a critical moment next year against us
December 28th, 2017 at 9:41 AM ^
The play was a legal play, regardless of RR's excuse. It is your fault as a coach to not have your team ready on every play.
There might be be repercussions for Purdue in the future; however, those points won them the game.
December 28th, 2017 at 9:47 AM ^
Obviously the play was legal. But when the referees with their yellow flags and 15 yard penalities tell the players not to do something, usually the players are going to listen. If a player gets flagged for doing something the refs had told him not to do, people would be taking shots at the player for being an idiot and not listening to the refs.
December 28th, 2017 at 10:17 AM ^
I don't know if I believe Rich Rod here. If anything, I'd expect the Purdue coaches to tell the officials that they might run this so that the officials don't blow the whistle early. In which case, the officials aren't going to tell the opposing team to let up. Who knows, though.
December 28th, 2017 at 11:05 AM ^
The players on the field are the ones that told Rich Rod what happened.
December 28th, 2017 at 10:59 AM ^
Intent to deceive???
December 28th, 2017 at 11:21 AM ^
for the number of games in which he and his team are caught unaware by Purdue's aggression. Giving up 48 points in 2008 when trying to install a new defense in a week, giving up 28 in the second half the next year and getting punked by Danny Hope and his handshaking pugilist lineman the next year, now this. Preparation and situational awareness: D.
December 28th, 2017 at 9:12 AM ^
It was a bullshit play IMO. It seems like "intent to deceive" to me. If Arizona lines up and fires off the ball, they take a ton of shit and deservedly so, just like Schiano did when he was coaching Tampa Bay.
December 28th, 2017 at 10:21 AM ^
...the entire notion that "intent to deceive" as a penalty seems specious. I mean, isn't that what offenses are supposed to do? Every game offenses change alignments and looks in an attempt to trick the opposing defense. As long as you follow the basic alignment and motion rules, I say trickery is all good.
Where do you draw the line?? Are fake punts now a problem? Certainly there is intent to deceive if you run a fake punt.
I just don't see the "intent to deceive" penalty as plausible. I didn't even know it was a thing until Harbaugh was called for it.
December 29th, 2017 at 5:54 AM ^
I didn't know it was a penalty either and I find the rule to be silly. I agree with you that it is the purpose of the offense to deceive the defense. In this case however, this crosses over the "unwritten rule" "sportsmanship" "player safety" ideals of sport. If you don't want your OL submarined from here on out when you line up to take a knee, then don't run this play. If you are going to have a silly intent to deceive rule, then this to me is one of or the most blatant plays you can create that deceive as it now becomes a player safety issue going forward.
December 28th, 2017 at 9:12 AM ^
Pesonal foul on Michigan was the above.
December 28th, 2017 at 9:18 AM ^
December 28th, 2017 at 4:08 PM ^
lined up in a safety position 10+ yards of the LOS unless you are kneeling down. So It is not basically a tight formation.
December 28th, 2017 at 9:19 AM ^