November 29th, 2017 at 6:30 PM ^
Saw he was alluding to something on Twitter.
That’s Ways, Harris, & Canteen in the 2014 class. No production. Bummer.
November 29th, 2017 at 6:41 PM ^
Harris' career: 9 catches for 60 yards and 2 solo tackles.
Canteen: 6 catches for 22 yards and a TD
Ways: 8 catches for 71 yards
They could have packed their three career's worth of receiving yards into 1 whole game. I wonder who was responsible for Hoke's WR recruiting.
November 29th, 2017 at 6:44 PM ^
Dave Brandon. It's always Dave Brandon.
November 29th, 2017 at 6:52 PM ^
I thought it was Harbaugh and Drevno's fault.
November 29th, 2017 at 7:05 PM ^
Ceterum censeo Dave Brandon delendam esse
November 29th, 2017 at 7:05 PM ^
Ceterum censeo Dave Brandon delendam esse
November 29th, 2017 at 7:05 PM ^
Hot Pocket
November 29th, 2017 at 6:43 PM ^
Lots of room opening up for grad tansfers and for expanding the new class!
November 29th, 2017 at 7:09 PM ^
That's true, but it's still sad we had to part ways with Moe...
November 29th, 2017 at 7:37 PM ^
There are Moe Ways than one for him to extend his football playing time.
November 29th, 2017 at 7:48 PM ^
than is advisable.
November 30th, 2017 at 2:52 AM ^
We need MOER!!!
November 30th, 2017 at 12:38 PM ^
Al-ex pectations aside, this Speight of puns has me thinking of the Ways that we'D rake someone over the coals if he left early, and we needed him.
November 29th, 2017 at 6:31 PM ^
Speight to Harris and Ways would be stellar.
November 29th, 2017 at 6:49 PM ^
How about FAU with Lane Kiffin? He's got that program rolling. Not sure how long he stays though. I know a lot of people dislike him, but he is always trolling Saban (hysterically by the way), and is a really good interview. I think he has grown up quite a bit and I am now starting to like him.
November 29th, 2017 at 8:55 PM ^
I feel like Lane is the new Spurrier. Just out here trolling everyone while giving no shits in the process.
November 29th, 2017 at 6:43 PM ^
for a big time program? i don't remember michigan (or any other school) having anywhere near this number of kids depart. maybe it's standard procedure and i've not paid enough attention.
November 29th, 2017 at 6:44 PM ^
Yes. Normal.
November 29th, 2017 at 6:52 PM ^
please
November 29th, 2017 at 7:00 PM ^
Yea i was wonderin the same thing.. i think this will go down once Coach has his guys.
November 29th, 2017 at 8:11 PM ^
It's normal for 5th year non contributors to not come back. Speight was definitely not normal and younger guys like Hall (assuming he leaves), you might see a few a year but not a ton. So far I would say the only real surprise is Speight.
November 29th, 2017 at 8:20 PM ^
please. i understand how/why its happening here and now, but i don't remember another school or our school ever going through this much attrition. can you cite me to other schools/years where this was 'normal', as one blogger asserted above.
November 29th, 2017 at 8:46 PM ^
Because neither you nor the media pays as much attention to anyone else.
Speight is not that big of a surprise. There's no way he's going to be the QB next year as mediocre (at best) he's been these past two years with two hot shot young Harbaugh recruits ready to go.
November 29th, 2017 at 8:54 PM ^
I suspect if you find a program that had a coaching change that immediately started bringing in monster classes, you would find upper classes attriting in years 1 and 2 as the super freshmen pass them by.
November 29th, 2017 at 8:58 PM ^
literally every single year. I'm on mobile right now so not about to do the research. I think attrition was actually worse under RichRod. I think there was a class under Carr, the Atrain class, where half the class didn't finish up here.
November 29th, 2017 at 10:29 PM ^
ok, this is off the top of my head so I may not be 100 accurate, and the farther back I go the less likely I am to be accurate, but i'm going to go through a few of our recruiting classes and list the number who didn't finish up elgibility. I won't count leaving early for pros against them.
2015: 5/14 didn't finish up their eligibility here so far
2014: 6/17
2013: 14/27
2012: 8/25
2011: 15/20
2010: 20/28
2009: 7/21
2008:11/24
November 30th, 2017 at 8:49 AM ^
wonder how many were grad transfers. its one thing if a guy gets hurt, can't cut it academically or gets in trouble, but it seems like we are having a slew of grad transfers.
November 30th, 2017 at 5:02 PM ^
keep In mind that grad transfers are a relatively new thing
November 30th, 2017 at 12:35 AM ^
not coming back considered attrition? Just because a player redshirts doesn't mean he's going to get a 5th year.
November 29th, 2017 at 6:59 PM ^
yeah, show your work please.
November 29th, 2017 at 7:13 PM ^
All buried on the depth chart, replaced by younger players. Its not "normal" it just highlights just how disastrous 2013-2014 recruiting was.
November 29th, 2017 at 6:48 PM ^
It's more so a changing of the guard. A lot of these are Hoke recruits that didn't pan out or were beaten by newer Harbaugh recruits. At this point, the writing is on the wall and they're either being given a firm handshake, or they're looking for greener pastures on their own. I'm really curious to see what happens with Lawrence Marshall and Ian Bunting because while they didn't play a ton, they are valuable depth/special team players.
November 29th, 2017 at 6:56 PM ^
I can't remember who, maybe it was UMBIG11, didn't he say Lawrence Marshall is returning?
November 29th, 2017 at 6:59 PM ^
yeah, it was. Mone and Marshall returning, but I think also mentioned Bunting likely leaving.
November 29th, 2017 at 7:02 PM ^
Just for depth reason I think it is good that those two are returning. Bunting is in the same situation as Harris and Ways. Mckeon and Gentry have already passed him on the depth chart, which puts him #4 behind those two and TJ Wheatley.
November 29th, 2017 at 7:11 PM ^
I thought he'd be the heir apparent to Jake Butt but he was hard to find on the field this year.
November 29th, 2017 at 7:53 PM ^
It was crazy how good he was in the bowl game against FSU after Butt went down. I remember thinking we wouldn't see a drop off at tight end this year. Bad call.
November 29th, 2017 at 8:18 PM ^
I don't think McKeon + Gentry was a big downgrade from Butt. The problem was mostly at the QB position this year.
November 29th, 2017 at 7:55 PM ^
I think the catching part is equal among the 4 TE's, but Bunting's blocking is probably well below the standard set by the other three.
November 29th, 2017 at 11:47 PM ^
Had Eubanks not gotten hurt Bunting might have had even less playing time.
November 29th, 2017 at 8:46 PM ^
Marshall finally got soem snaps this year and wasn't bad. Not surprised he's staying.
November 29th, 2017 at 6:58 PM ^
In this case yes. New coaching staff, these are last players who played for the old coaching staff. The new coach's recruits now are upperclassmen. Expect the last major attrition around this time
November 30th, 2017 at 12:38 AM ^
Harbaugh isn't going to keep 'his' recruits around for a 5th yr if they haven't 'earned' it. Maybe it won't be as much, but I think we're still going to see players getting a firm handshake after their 4th yr.
November 29th, 2017 at 7:12 PM ^
So the players have their degree, and looking for more playing time, along with a second scholarship opportunity for a grad degree. It's really a great thing for these graduating seniors.
November 30th, 2017 at 6:42 AM ^
That will include incoming grad transfers.
November 30th, 2017 at 7:00 AM ^
is that anything you can share about, even in a general fashion?
November 30th, 2017 at 7:20 AM ^
QB still not out of the question.
November 30th, 2017 at 8:11 AM ^
be interested in those OL recruits, seems like they don't work out because they couldn't crack it at their first school. However, if they are from Bama, Clemson, or Georgia....this could work out nicely for us! Are the coaches also that unhappy with the safety play or is it just a depth concern?
November 30th, 2017 at 8:40 AM ^
As for the safety play, they need depth and playmakers. Woods will take a spot next year and start. He may start in the bowl game. He was hampered by an injury mid season that slowed him down a little.
November 30th, 2017 at 8:51 AM ^
Bang me anyways!