Mike Damone

February 27th, 2018 at 10:41 PM ^

that Bo got in your face and yelled loudly at you when you asked stupid questions.  And if you go on his shit list for asking too many, you wouldn't need to get fired.  You would get your miserable loser ass out of Ann Arbor to a cushier job elsewhere - can't imagine coming to work would be too pleasant if you were on the outs with Bo....

Mike Damone

February 27th, 2018 at 11:05 PM ^

Bo fired head basketball coach Bill Frieder right before the NCAA tourney, after Frieder accepted the job as Arizona State's coach for next season.  Bo would have none of that - only a Michigan Man would coach a Michigan team.

This incredibly gutsy call led to Fisher being named interim coach, and one of the most incredible runs in NCAA Tourney history, led by Glen Rice's 184 points over the six games, a tourney record that still stands today.  We won that National Championship in 1989, our only only one in hoops history.  Due in no small part to Bo's initial decision.

So go to the RCMB if you want to trash Bo.  But get the hell out of here.

HHW

February 27th, 2018 at 11:16 PM ^

I'm not trashing Bo, Ioved Bo.  Literally cried when I heard he passed away. I grew up with him as Michigan's coach.  Met him twice and was speechless, that dude commanded a room.  But good lord, judge him by today's standards.

No National Championships in 21 Seasons.

5-12 in bowl games.

You think Harbaugh survives 21 years in the age of Twitter and the spotlight that's on today's sports with that record? 

And if you think he fired Frieder because he thought that was their best chance to win a National Championship you are nuts.  He fired Frieder because Frieder did what Bo resisted (remember when Texas A&M came calling) and there was no way he was going to let the type of person coach Michigan. Bo was as surprised as any of us.  Why do you think he was an interim coach.  If M doesn't win that championship, Fisher wouldn't have continued coaching at M.  Bo would have hired a big name.

Mike Damone

February 27th, 2018 at 11:28 PM ^

long winded rationalizations and unsupported deductions about Bo's thoughts and decisions during that time.  Bo's leadership during that Frieder fiasco set the tone for that team heading into the tourney.  We don't win that Championship without that leadership.  End of story.

HHW

February 27th, 2018 at 11:33 PM ^

Because your use of we seems as though you were in the locker room.  "We" won the championship because Fisher went to a three guard lineup.  Something that Freider was reluctant to do.

But, whatever man, your Glen Rice, who am I to argue.

Jasper

February 28th, 2018 at 5:30 AM ^

I think Bo's contribution to the '89 run is overrated. A very talented team got a well-timed perspective shift and went on a nice run.

Let's not forget that the 3rd-round (UNC) and semifinal (Illinois) games were close.

M Ascending

February 28th, 2018 at 6:54 AM ^

But there would have been no perspective shift if he hadn't had the balls to can Frieder. We would have had a lame duck coach whose mind was already in Arizona, and an early tourney exit would have been likely.

Mike Damone

February 28th, 2018 at 9:33 AM ^

You have to really remember that small window of time.  We had a great team, but they felt like underachievers, and already had their asses handed to them by Illinois twice.  North Carolina was looming in the Sweet 16, and had knocked us out of tourney last couple of years.  The Frieder thing came hard and fast.  Early exit out of the tourney felt inevitable.

The only positive for several days was Bo.  He acted swiftly and decisively.  Outside of the Frieder/Fisher/Michigan Man speech and move, one thing I remember was the "band fix".  For the 1st weekend of games down in Atlanta, someone had made the decision not to have the band to travel.  Too late to amend getting our band, Bo hired a local team's band (Georgia State, I believe), bought them some Michigan hats at the local Kmart, got them some seats, and made them learn the Victors.  A small move - but I am telling you, was a way to show the team, fans and the world that this team, and supporting this team 100%, mattered.

Sure, it is a lot of luck to ultimately win.  3 of 4 games in Sweet Sixteen were nailbiters.  But what tourney winner doesnt have to go through at least some of that?

You will never be able to convince me that without Bo's leadership and confidence, we win that NCAA tournament.  I went to U-M in 1989.  Best sports memory of my life.

lilpenny1316

February 28th, 2018 at 10:53 AM ^

Pretty sure that would have been Bo's call as athletic director.  Just like Brandon made the initial decision not to send the band to Dallas for the game vs. Alabama.

Also, no AD would let a head coach stay in their position for the NCAA tournament if they plan on making a lateral move.  Bo made a simple move that only seemed extraordinary because his head coach made an extraordinary move.  

I'm not saying he didn't provide any leadership, but the decision to fire Frieder was made for him when Frieder jetted for Arizona State.

Mike Damone

February 28th, 2018 at 11:55 AM ^

Frieder told Bo he was taking the job at ASU after coaching Michigan through the tourney.  Bo fired him on the spot.  The decision was "not made for him" - Bo had a choice not to fire him immediately, and let Frieder complete tourney as Michigan's coach.  This is a fact.

If Bo hadn't acted decisively with conviction - I doubt we win that tourney.  

lilpenny1316

February 28th, 2018 at 12:30 PM ^

Especially when there's a bad relationship between employer and employee.  Happens all the time to people who have no indication they were leaving giving two weeks notice.  

Frieder didn't like how Bo treated the basketball team after he became AD, so there was friction almost immediately in their superior-subordinate relationship.

I'm not arguing that Bo didn't make the right call.  I'm just saying that Frieder's move justified his firing and most employers would've done the same thing.

Roanman

February 28th, 2018 at 4:36 PM ^

Will probably feel compelled to say it again.

We never win that national championship with Frieder coaching. If you had seen him coaching with that scared shitless look of pure agony on his face, sweating like a pig, stupid towel hanging over his shoulder, you would easily understand the issue.

Props to Frieder for his ability to assemble talent, but he coached extremely tight all the time and in big games, unbearably so. His teams played tight most of the time, and in big games, they flat out played scared. Freider got less done with more talent than any coach in Michigan history, and possibly in NCAA history ..... any sport.

Fish had the perfect demeanor to take that team over and go win the thing. Frieder never in a million years would have found the stones to hand the ball to Glen Rice and tell him to keep shooting.

 

 

funkywolve

February 28th, 2018 at 12:52 AM ^

While the polls weren't the greatest way to determine the NC, the bigger problem was Bo either lost the Rose Bowl or lost to OSU.  His two teams that won the Rose Bowl were 10-2 in 1980 and 9-2-1 in 1988.  In both of those years the NC was undefeated.

Had their been a 4 team playoff during Bo's career maybe he has a NC or 2.  He had a bunch of good teams but the teams in the 70s always lost the last game of the year and the good teams in the 80s had a couple of blemishes be it losses or ties.  If there were playoffs, UM probably makes the playoffs a good amount and maybe wins a NC but with the way the polls worked, I don't think you can say he got a raw deal.  

befuggled

February 28th, 2018 at 8:22 AM ^

I mean, Michigan stayed home in bowl season four times out of his first six years at Michigan despite going 9-1, 10-1, 10-0-1 and 10-1. Playing in bowls would have exposed Michigan to tougher competition than he found in the Big Ten in those years (outside of Ohio State) and might have forced him to start making the changes that eventually led him to start winning bowl games in the eighties.

SpaceDad

February 28th, 2018 at 1:19 AM ^

Yes. I think any coach would survive 21 years with Bo’s record “in the age of Twitter.”
 
Based on end of regular season AP Poll rankings — and I understand this is not how teams are selected today — Bo’s teams would have played in six playoffs and would have been the next team out of five others.
 
1969 - 7
1970 - 7
1971 - 4
1972 - 8
1973 - 5
1974 - 4
1975 - 5
1976 - 2
1977 - 4
1978 - 5
1979 - 14
1980 - 5
1981 - 16
1982 - 19
1983 - 8
1984 - NR
1985 - 5
1986 - 4
1987 - NR
1988 - 11
1989 - 3