OMG, we lost our 3rd string QB!
December 21st, 2008 at 11:28 AM ^
You summed it up perfectly.
I'm not sure why everyone has this certainty that Forcier is a "better" recruit than Beaver - he is marginally ranked higher, but they are so close that it's essentially meaningless. This hurts us merely because having 3 viable candidates compete for the starting QB position is more likely to yield a positive result than having 2 viable candidates compete for the starting QB position.
Also, as Blue Durham notes, attrition is rampant. This year, according to Rivals rankings, we should have had a starting O-line of Boren at C, Zirbel and Alex Mitchell at G, and Schilling and Justin Schifano at tackle. All those players were at least 4-star recruits (not to mention Brett Gallimore, another 4-star O-line recruit who is no longer on the team). We had ONE of those. Again, based on rankings and "projected" depth charts, we should have had Chris Rogers (a top 50 recruit) playing LB for us this year, and 4-star Cobrani Mixon helping out, and ready to team with Jonas Mouton and Obi Ezeh as a true junior/RS sophomore. We could have had Antonio Bass at QB, and Eugene Germany (4-star) ready to step into the void at the other DE spot. We wouldn't have to depend on a true freshman and sophomore at DT, because Jason Kates and James McKinney (both 4-stars) would be around. You see how stupid this is? Any effort to look at Rivals rankings, and then forecast out a depth chart is folly.
December 21st, 2008 at 2:36 PM ^
December 21st, 2008 at 3:44 PM ^
Even more compelling is the QB situation. So, theoretically, once Henne leaves, our QB was supposed to be Clayton Richard. Well, Richard decides to play baseball instead, so we decide it's going to be Jason Forcier. We recruit a better prospect (Mallett), so Forcier transfers. Then there's the possibility that Antonio Bass is better than all of them. Then Bass gets hurt. Then Mallett transfers. And the guys we end with, competing for the job are two QB's who we didn't even recruit. So, at any given time, there literally 4 different players who were "supposed" to be starting for us this year. And not ONE was on the roster.
That's why it's funny to see "OMG, Taylor Lewan is the next Jake Long", etc. Half these four stars we're raking in won't ever see meaningful playing time for a variety of reasons.
December 25th, 2008 at 11:32 AM ^
December 21st, 2008 at 4:41 PM ^
Even more compelling is the QB situation. So, theoretically, once Henne leaves, our QB was supposed to be Clayton Richard. Well, Richard decides to play baseball instead, so we decide it's going to be Jason Forcier. We recruit a better prospect (Mallett), so Forcier transfers. Then there's the possibility that Antonio Bass is better than all of them. Then Bass gets hurt. Then Mallett transfers. And the guys we end with, competing for the job are two QB's who we didn't even recruit. So, at any given time, there literally 4 different players who were "supposed" to be starting for us this year. And not ONE was on the roster.
That's why it's funny to see "OMG, Taylor Lewan is the next Jake Long", etc. Half these four stars we're raking in won't ever see meaningful playing time for a variety of reasons.
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December 21st, 2008 at 1:22 PM ^
Magnus,
I'd agree that there is no reason for people to get ad hominem-y. But, you need to realize that when you write something like "this won't effect us until 2012", people may quibble with that. I think we all understand that you aren't speaking with 100% certainty, but people can still disagree with that premise - and they are. Your post states that YOUR OPINION is that this wouldn't effect us until Beaver's 5th-year Senior year. People have listed reasons why (he's comparably ranked with Forcier, OMG attrition, guru rankings aren't infallible, etc.). They're still allowed to do that.
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