The Post Where We Admit That Michigan Has In Fact Hired Jim McElwain Comment Count

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So Michigan just hired Jim McElwain to coach football in some capacity. That capacity is apparently offensive coordinator and WR coach. This doesn't make much sense to me. McElwain becomes Michigan's fourth offensive coordinator, more or less, along with Harbaugh, Drevno, and Hamilton. He may be second amongst equals, for whatever that's worth.

McElwain was a notoriously bad recruiter at Florida, failing to crack the top ten once during his tenure and finishing no better than fifth in the SEC, and that was with a steady stream of Questionable Dudes that came highly rated but had seen various other teams back off. Those questionable dudes saw their super powers combine into a credit card scam that got a tenth of the team suspended last year. If you were to go back and re-rank recruiting classes by removing confirmed knuckleheads, Florida would plummet towards the nether reaches of the SEC.

Meanwhile, McElwain had a public meltdown about an internet joke, twice, made an unsupported assertion he had received death threats that almost got him fired for cause, and marketed his own barbecue sauce in the midst of a disastrous, tenure-ending football season.

Whatever offensive aptitudes he seemed to demonstrate at Alabama and Colorado State evaporated in a haze of ineptitude in Florida. Spencer Hall:

Statistically, Jim McElwain turned 2017 Florida into 2017 Rutgers. There is no evidence McElwain or the offensive staff can develop a quarterback or build an offensive line or tell a wideout how to run a route. There’s actually less and less evidence the offense is even designed competently. The big highlight—maybe the only real morbid but funny highlight, really—of watching Gary Danielson this season call a long string of SEC blowouts has been him literally correcting play design for Florida on the screen. He does this when not openly laughing at false starts and procedural penalties. It’s a full to-do list when watching Florida football, and just getting through half of it should earn him an Emmy.

Yours truly surveying the devastation after the opener:

Watch Florida left tackle Martez Ivey start yelling at the left guard on the Furbush touchdown before the play is even over:

You! Come over here! I know you're in the middle of a football play, but look upon the destruction your incompetence has wrought! Feel in your very bones the touchdown you have given up and shall never recover from! Eat at Arby's!

Also here is Florida's quarterback getting hammered on a rollout that Michigan rushed three on.

That's some dystopian business right there, and we should slow our roll a little given the evident dysfunction of the opponent. How much? I don't know.

McElwain doing well at Alabama proves little; having a decent offense at Colorado State because five-star Dee Hart needed a landing spot and rushed for 6.6 YPC doesn't prove a whole lot more. What success Florida did have under McElwain was an artifact of a trash SEC East and a defense he inherited from Will Muschamp.

On the positive side, McElwain does have a lengthy tenure as a collegiate WR coach stretching from 1987 to 2005, with the odd QB or special teams duty thrown in. And he probably has some great stories about John L Smith, who he coached under for five years at Louisville and Michigan State.

The best thing about this hire is that it doesn't really matter since it's Harbaugh's offense anyway. While McElwain comes in with a very Greg Robinson track record—aging successes and recent debacles paired with press interactions that make him seem slightly insane—he's not going to be put in charge of half the team and subsequently told to run something he's completely unfamiliar with. But neither is he likely to move the needle in recruiting or help organize the team. He'll seem like a brilliant WR coach because Michigan's WRs are about to get a lot better by virtue of not being freshmen, in the same way Ron English was a god until he wasn't.

Maybe once released from the prison of being a head coach he's actually a good offensive coordinator—but Michigan doesn't need tactical help. They need someone who can throw a ball straight and an offensive line that doesn't get that guy and his backup murdered. They do need a skill position coach and McElwain sort of fits there. He seems more like a duplicate of a duplicate, and he is very hard to take seriously after his year of baffling press conferences and Keystone Kops coaching.

He's a tenth assistant, and therefore more of a missed opportunity than a burgeoning disaster. And since every other thing with a track record immediately defies it when it arrives to do Michigan football things (except Don Brown, God bless Don Brown), maybe he'll be brilliant.

Comments

TK

February 16th, 2018 at 3:11 PM ^

I can’t figure out how his reaction is considered a meltdown to the ridiculous shark question. That’s a huge reach to say that.

Milk

February 16th, 2018 at 3:13 PM ^

If you honestly believe a single running back turned Colorado State from a 3-9 team to a 10-3 team, I don't know what to tell you.

 

McElwain has a solid resume.  One that definitely justifies a co-coordinator position.  I can't pretend he's a perfect hire, but the doom and gloom here is not merited.  The only truly bad season he's been associated with in the past decade is last year at Florida, and that can largely be attributed to losing 10% of his team to suspensions.

Swazi

February 16th, 2018 at 3:20 PM ^

Comparing McElwain to GERG is laughable.

McElwain is 4 years removed from success at CSU and Bama. GERG was a decade plus removed from his successes when Michigan hire him.(Not gonna count him being co-DC at Texas when they got shredded a lot and VY bailed them out, and Gene Chizik was the other co-DC).

What Robinson did to Syracuse is nothing to what McElwain did to Florida.

Townie_Alum67

February 16th, 2018 at 3:25 PM ^

I live in Gainesville & am in complete agreement with Brian’s remarks. McElwain is a disaster on many levels...personal AND professional. I can’t imagine what Harbaugh was thinking. For the first time, I’m losing confidence in him. My gator friends here are astounded and baffled by this horrendous decision. After all, UF happily paid $7.5 million to get rid of him.

bronxblue

February 16th, 2018 at 3:48 PM ^

Yeah.  This whole post is steeped in hyperbole that lacks much connection to reality.  GERG was a failed DC at multiple stops and was an NFL guy for, what, a decade plus before coming to Michigan?  McElwain was a fine OC/HC literally everywhere he went except Florida, which is also the place that somehow broke Urban Meyer.  Like, at some point we might look back at Florida and figure out that all these failed coaches weren't the problem.

Sten Carlson

February 16th, 2018 at 4:03 PM ^

*sigh* This is pathetic. Brian has been infected by the Maizen Bitch virus. Sad. So very sad. You’ve succumbed to the “not happy unless you’re miserable” so many in here exude. For a successful blogger Brian sure seems to have lost all sense of self preservation and direction. Reading this was like reading a eulogy of a one time thriving website. You’d better get your shit together, and get some treatment for that virus, unless you’re planning on looking for a job sometime soon.

MGoBender

February 16th, 2018 at 4:50 PM ^

Get a grip. You clearly read that with your take pre-determined. It’s a reasoned take: “There’s nothing to get exciting about here, because this is the 10th coaching position”. Brian points out the most likely positive, that JM has a track record with WRs.

Ignoring the total debacle that was Florida last year would be irresponsible writing.

MGoBender

February 16th, 2018 at 6:17 PM ^

Saying that is fine.  Saying this...

 

This is pathetic. Brian has been infected by the Maizen Bitch virus. Sad. You’d better get your shit together, and get some treatment for that virus, unless you’re planning on looking for a job sometime soon.
Are two very, very different things.

MUUM79

February 16th, 2018 at 4:06 PM ^

I hear Brians argument that you cant trust Alabama coordinators because they usually have a bunch of 5 star kids running their schemes, but Mcelwain was at Alabama year 2 of Saban tenure, which i recall was a mess year 1, and just exploded to elite when he became OC, presumably without the talent machine they have now. Hopefully a good sign for us.

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FrozeMangoes

February 17th, 2018 at 8:30 AM ^

That JM gets as much credit for Bama's O as Don Brown does for D here. As they are the opposite side of the ball of the HCs background. 

 

Obviously. Saban brought in some talent but he wouldn't keep JM around if he wasn't competent. 

Dmoney3278

February 16th, 2018 at 4:06 PM ^

The biggest concern here is the amount of change over...I could be wrong but on the offensive side of the ball there’s multiple changes at coaching positions since he’s been here...I own a fairly big construction company and I had my biggest struggles when I went through that period of changing personnel. I’m hoping things will stabilize and at least keep a good core for 4-5 years.

BlueMk1690

February 16th, 2018 at 4:16 PM ^

The constant nitpicking of everything the team does and never-ending stream of overreactions is probably at least one of the factors in keeping the program from reaching its potential.

Sten Carlson

February 16th, 2018 at 4:23 PM ^

^^^ This!!! Every play, every coach, every recruit, every comment is construed in the worst possible light by a large portion of this board. They shit on everyone and everything and then wonder why there is a negative cloud seemingly surrounding the program. We got through the dark years and got Our Guy, and yet people in here proclaim their impatience and dissatisfaction constantly. STFU and stop talking about shit you know nothing about! Let the coaches do what they do, and support the team, fer fok sake!

MGoPDX88

February 16th, 2018 at 7:06 PM ^

Just sitting here and waiting for the season to start would be pretty boring for the people spouting all the trash. Plus since we've got Beilein our Bball program is cleaner than a recent healthy colonoscopy patient, leaving us with nothing else to gripe about save the "tire fire" some call our football program. Add this to the fact that folks are ready to blame everyone involved except for Don Brown, are we at all surprised by the state of our threads, nay, our MGofanbase as a whole?

I say wait and see. I'd rather be bored than trash my team, but who am I to have an opinion?

andrewgr

February 16th, 2018 at 6:55 PM ^

The entire purpose of this blog is to be a home to intelligent, well-researched, informative analysis about Michigan sports, with particular emphasis on football.

For many years, when UM was horrid at football, Brian patiently found the good to go along with the bad.  When he couldn't find the good anymore, he actively participated in getting Hoke removed-- he didn't just whine, he didn't just bitch, and he certainly didn't just shut up and trust the Powers That Be.  

Since Harbaugh has taken over, Brian has written about a lot of different aspects of the football team and the program as a whole.  Many of those have been quite optimistic (IMHO overly optimistic, even).

But when it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and acts like a duck, Brian is not going to call it a Ferrari just to prove he's a Loyal Fan or something like that.  When mistakes are made, he's going to analyze them and write about them, because that's, like, the entire purpose of this site, which has been his life's work for a long time.

This hire is likely to be a bad one.  As he puts it in context, it likely doesn't matter a whole lot if it turns out to be bad, since it's the 10th assistant, which didn't even exist until this year.

Brian supplies factually correct, legitimate reasons to call this out as a likely whiff for this staff position.  If you don't like that, you should likely be reading one of the many other Michigan sites that have never aspired to be anything more than ra-ra pep-talk fan echo chambers.  That's not what got Brian and MGoBlog here, and it's not what's going to make it the place to be when/if Michigan starts dominating on the gridiron in the future.

Quailman

February 16th, 2018 at 7:20 PM ^

Ahh, the ole if you don't like it you can leave defense eh? Or people can have some discourse and not agree, and even think Brian is wrong or maybe clouded. You say Brian has factual well supported reasons to think its bad. Others refute those facts, or Brian's opinions, and have even shown they maybe aren't 100 percent correct. Your right, this isn't what got Brian here. Many people have commented on how it doesn't feel like the same type or level of commentary.

LeCheezus

February 16th, 2018 at 8:21 PM ^

Read through this thread. Much of what Brian wrote was far from "factually correct." JM was at Bama as it was built up, not after it was rolling. CSU had a lot more good going than Dee Hart. GERG has what appears to be a far worse record (5-37 at Cuse) than JM (One bad season and two SEC East titles). What he did do was paint almost everything about this hire as negatively as possible, a trend that I find sad. I hope he snaps out of this soon. The first 10 minutes of th MGoBlog Roundtable were just...embarrassingly bad. Sam and Craig sounded like apologetic parents in a store while their kid is kicking and screaming on the floor in full fit mode.

Sten Carlson

February 17th, 2018 at 1:53 PM ^

There is nothing “factual” (aside from anticdotal facts) in Brian’s post — it’s merely a lazy, emo, post in which he arbitrarily dismisses information that doesn’t fit his negative narrative. Then, to make matters even worse, he proclaims that it likely won’t matter anyway because he’s the 10th assistant which didn’t exist before. So what? Maybe, this is the missing piece, the Don Brown of the offense. If that’s the case (which I think is equally as likely as abject failure) then THE DECIDING FACTOR was that which was dismissed as meaningless. Maybe Brian did a deep dive on his readership and found that being negative and whining about every aspect of the program is actually MORE LUCRATIVE because the trolls and bitching users generate more page views or hits, or whatever they call them these days. Someone said it below, none of us know anything for certain. Yes, we can express opinions, but to me, Brian’s niche has been his ability to frame his opinions as such, and ask the reader to form their own. Here, he all but proclaims disaster. It’s a stark departure, and one that I’m very disappointed in. I’m not asking for pom poms, but just a measured take on something we all have very little information upon which to form an informed opinion.

UMxWolverines

February 16th, 2018 at 9:16 PM ^

I mean, some things deserve criticism and some don't. There was clearly a problem with the offensive staff, that's why there's changes being made. The problem I have is people saying it's a bad hire because of his personality. You know who else has supposedly bad personalities? Greg Schiano and Kevin Wilson. Shut up and let the guy coach.

Mongo

February 16th, 2018 at 4:33 PM ^

  • 2015 SEC Head Coach of the Year
  • 2014 MWC Head Coach of the Year
  • 2x AFCA Regional Coach of the Year (2014 & 2015)
  • 2x SEC East Division Titles
  • 44-28 record as a HC and 2-1 in Bowls
  • Strong track record of 16 years as a WR coach
  • 4yrs as OC at Alabama with 2 National Titles

His basic offensive philosophy is power with a balanced mix of run and pass.  He also incorporated the pistol at CSU which was highly effective within his power constraint (just like JH did at SF).  McElwain is a total fit with Harbaugh.

Drevno gets to focus exclusively on the OL without the confusion of the Frey experiment.

Pep gets to focus exclusively on QB development and the passing game.

McElwain will take over the WRs who are in need of professional development versus being covered by a grad assistant like last year (to me this is potentially the huge upgrade).

If these guys can check their egos at the door, the game-planning dynamics could be outstanding.  U-M's offensive identity will now be fully aligned with power.  Herbert was an important hire to get the OL up a notch in physicality to support the power philosophy.

After all the concerns on this specific hire dissipate, these changes in their totality might just work.  Go Blue !!!

Kenpoj

February 16th, 2018 at 4:46 PM ^

is certainly showing here. I really don't see it as bad as you seem to be pointing toward a further downturn. His offenses at Alabama were capable of both running and passing effectively which I am pretty confident that we will be better at this year. Our QB play is well documented above and from some of the information we saw from last year, Dylan may be more of an answer than Brandon. Don't believe it will ever get to that level due to Shea being available, but if it does, I believe Dylan will be the kind of QB that can be successful under Harbaugh. Way too much doom and gloom in Wolverine Land right now. Onward and Upward we go. Go Blue!!!

M-Dog

February 16th, 2018 at 5:24 PM ^

Yikes.  The best thing you can say about those yellow on yellow unis is that now we know what they look like, so we don't ever have to do them again.