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Brian

A long email about scheduling in parts:

Brian
 
1.  Martin maintains that they need the revenue from the home games to help out with the budget.  Seems to me Martin is running the department like a business.  That being the case, if you own a business that has a number of different departments and some of those departments are not producing revenue, aren't there three options?  1.  Try to increase revenue in the revenue producing departments, which he's trying to do.  2.  Try to increase revenue/cut costs in those departments that are not producing revenue.  3.  Ax those departments that are not producing revenue. 
 
The third option is rather severe since it is college athletics we're talking about.  So I'd be interested to see/know what Martin is doing to try and increase revenues in the other sports as well as reduce costs in the other sports.  Hopefully, if Beilien keeps the basketball moving in the right direction that will help the revenue stream coming in from bball. 

Michigan doesn't have much leverage via which to increase revenues in other sports. When you're trying to fill Crisler by selling five-dollar seats to nonconference games there's not much you can do to milk the season ticket holders without risking rebellion. And those home nonconference games aren't raking it in like a football game would. Hockey's about break-even now and stuck there; everything else, well… revenue is sparse.

As far as reducing costs in other sports: Michigan fancies itself to be Stanford of the East when it comes to its athletic department and wants each and every one of its programs to be competitive, many of them nationally. Mike Bottom, the swim coach, is probably making bank relative to his peers. Same with the women's soccer coach, who is late of the national team. For most Michigan fans the only benefit this produces is a ceremony wherein a bunch of teams you've never seen walk across the Michigan Stadium turf after winning the conference.

But they're not really the problem. This is a situation analogous to pro sports, where people complain about how much money the players are making as if it has an impact on ticket prices when in reality the relationship is reversed. Michigan has been very good at extracting revenue and that money goes somewhere. In 2003, Michigan paid athletic department employees a total of 19 million dollars. They budgeted 27 million for 2008. That's twice the revenue of one home game.

Would life be vastly different at major college athletic programs without the 12th game? No. Coaches would have slightly less spectacular salaries. The end.

2.  The thing that gets me with the scheduling is why does he feel the need to schedule 1-AA schools?  If he'd do the schedule a few years in advance, he probably wouldn't have to.  With the ND contract, ND will be on the schedule for a while as well as a couple MAC schools.  Why not look to the some of the other lower level D1 conferences for games?  The lower level Conference USA schools, some lower level WAC schools and maybe some Sunbelt schools.  I'm guessing a good amount of those schools wouldn't mind having a visit to Ann Arbor on their schedule to use it as a recruiting tool.
 
I understand the reasoning for wanting as many home games as possible, but waiting until there's less then a year away from the start of the season to finalize your schedule really leaves you with limited options.  It's poor planning on Martin's part imo.
 
Scott

To the average fan there isn't much difference between UMass and Middle Tennessee or Memphis or San Jose State, and, honestly there isn't much of one to me. They're just teams Michigan should crush no matter what. They'll have a tepid crowd with plenty of no-shows, be televised on the BTN, and be immediately forgotten unless something terrible happens.

In that context, I understand reaching for I-AA teams. They're cheaper and the chance you get upset is lower. The issue here isn't really which overmatched team you bring in, it's the entire concept. People would be rolling their eyes just as fervently if it was Louisiana-Monroe or Idaho being kicked around as a potential opponent.

I can't speak to the poor planning, as I don't know the specifics of what's going on.

p.s. - If RR continues to be successful in promoting the spring game, could that help with freeing up money for home and homes?  Even if you're only charging $10, if you get 60-70,000 people through the gate by the time you add on concessions, parking, etc. that's probably over a million dollars in revenue. 

Probably not. Michigan got 50k this year for free… how many would they get if they ticked people off by charging?

I thought the big fix to the nonconference problem would come from television revenues, but Bruce Madej says that all revenues, including nonconference ones, are split evenly with conference members. So Indiana is making just as much from Texas-OSU as Ohio State. This is obviously a huge disincentive to schedule a real opponent.

This question is another question and not an insane leap from Scott above:

First, what differentiates an OL recruit/player from tackle/guard/center?  Right or left side?  Certainly some players can handle multiple positions, but how is their ideal position determined?

Second, why are slot receivers typically short?  Isn't the key attribute being fast?  Would an equally fast but tall player work just as well or better?

One: Mostly height. Ideal tackle height is from 6'6" to 6'9". Interior linemen can be much shorter: David Molk is listed at 6'2" and may be even smaller.

Why should tackles be so tall? Height usually brings long arms with it, and long arms help contain outside pass rushers and generally do wonders in pass protection. Michael Lewis tackles (ha!) the subject in The Blind Side:

The ideal left tackle was big, but a lot of people were big. What set him apart was his more subtle specifications. He was wide in the ass and massive in the thighs: the girth of his lower body lessened the likelihood that Lawrence Taylor, or his successors, would run right over him. He had long arms: pass rushers tried to get in tight to the blocker's body, then spin off of it, and long arms helped to keep them at bay. He had giant hands, so that when he grabbed ahold of you, it meant something.

But size along couldn't cope with the threat to the quarterback's blind side, because that threat was also fast. The ideal left tackle also had great feet. Incredibly nimble and quick feet. Quick enough feet, ideally, that the the idea of racing him in a five-yard dash made the team's running backs uneasy. He had the body control of a ballerina and the agility of a basketball player. The combination was incredibly rare. And so, ultimately, very expensive.

I've seen Jake Long, perhaps the ideal left tackle, in action and at no point did he remind me of a ballerina but set aside that bit of fluffery and there you go.

On the other hand, in the interior space is restricted. Unless something strange happens no one is going to run right by you, and therefore you can put guys who are just about as nimble but squatter and more powerful there. In a traditional running game* guards and centers would like very much to take a defensive lineman and blow him off the ball. That requires leverage: the #1 line cliché of all time is "low man wins". Being (sort of) short is a head start on being low. Think of Pat Massey, and then think of Terrance Taylor.

As far as right or left side: at tackle the guy on the left is the star because he's protecting the quarterback's blindside (unless that QB is left handed). So the best pass protection guys go there, the guys with the most experience and most ideal tackle physique. The guy on the right has a lot of responsibility there too but usually ends up being less slanted towards pass protection just because most teams don't have two Jake Longs.

*(What about Michigan? Michigan's more about cutting linemen off and getting guys in space against one guy who's not quick enough to cut up with you. Rather than driving the defender backwards your main priority is to either 1) get on the right side of him and prevent yourself from getting plowed into the tailback or 2) take your man's existing motion to the ball and shove him right past the action. Guards are still shorter because it's a lot easier to find a 6'3" guy with the requisite agility than a 6'6" guy.)

Two: The key attribute in a slot receiver is not raw speed but quickness. While a slot receiver is rarely going to get his tiny little legs moving at full cartoon speed, he is going to have 210-pound linebackers attempting to put their helmets through his ribcage plenty. Once you catch that swing pass or bubble screen, the ability to juke the first guy out of his jock is way more important than what your velocity is after ten yards in a straight line.

I'm sure Rodriguez wouldn't mind a 6-foot slot a la Peter Warrick, but those guys are rare. 5'8" guys with dreads who can teleport short distances are in better supply and less demand. So it's considerably easier to get the best or second-best 5'8" guy in the country, as Michigan did with Jeremy Gallon, than the best 6-foot one.

Comments

thekfay

May 4th, 2009 at 12:20 PM ^

Brian- What about interior linemen being shorter to provide the QB with a better field of vision? Not to mention decrease the chances that a low/sidearm pass ricochets off a (teammate's) helmet or flailing arm.

Magnus

May 4th, 2009 at 12:49 PM ^

This is a coincidence, not necessarily a requirement. The main purpose for shorter interior linemen is the ability to get leverage and drive DTs off the ball. If you have a tall guy who can get good enough knee bend to be an effective drive blocker, then he can play guard.

Other Andrew

May 4th, 2009 at 1:11 PM ^

Really, the epidemic of crappy scheduling has hardly anything to do with Bill Martin and everything to do with the sport at large. The prime candidate for scorn is the NCAA for allowing: --I-AA opponents to count for bowl eligibility every season --A 6-6 record to give you bowl eligibility. It's all about money, but these two changes altered the interests of a team like Vanderbilt or any other mid-to-low level BCS team. Never before has a bowl game been so possible for those kinds of teams. Now they can potentially have greater value in outslugging a cupcake than taking a paycheck from Michigan. So even if Martin wanted to schedule some decent teams, the vast majority of them are not up for it. A bowl game helps with money and recruiting a lot more than Michigan's paycheck. Martin sees what the other schools are doing and in order to "remain competitive" (whether that's for Rodriguez's salary, better facilities or, ahem, legal settlements), he needs as much money as possible. Nick Saban affects us all. As Brian says here, it's not that the tickets prices are raised to pay the salaries, it's that we're willing to pay to see Delaware State. It's simple economics, and the demand curve remains above its intersection with supply. There's a consumer surplus and we should all be happy. I'm not really joking... I interviewed SEC commish Mike Slive about a year ago and complained about this. He said he hates it, too and has tried various ideas to improve things, but the power's really not in his hands. Blame the NCAA because they are one of two groups of people who can affect this. The other is us if we decide we've had enough and stop going. I don't see that happening any time soon...

M-Dog

May 4th, 2009 at 8:44 PM ^

In a full year, you really only get about 7 chances to enjoy the Michigan Big House experience - tailgates, the game, the band, cheerleaders, the fall weather, the general buzz on campus, etc. (7 and a half if you count the newly rejuvenated Spring Game). That's not a lot. That is why we will put up with Del St. We have further to go to hit the tipping point where it is just not worthwhile. But man, we've got to be getting close. We are already there in Basketball for some home games, IMO.

Wolv54

May 4th, 2009 at 1:54 PM ^

I would not say it is a lot easier to find agile guys who are 6'3'' than it is guys are 6'6''. I'm 6'6'' and have the agility of a fucking jungle cat ninja. I think it is extremely rare to find guys with all of the measurables and who possess the intangibles that make a good OL. The reason OL is hard to project is because a lot of the scouting is done with the measurables in mind and guys who don't fit a certain mold are not as highly regarded ala David Molk. Also, some guys who have the measurables are not necessarily going to be good players insomuch as it takes more than size to be a competent D1 lineman. You've got to have a mean streak in you and you have to be able to move your big ass. One of the funniest things Jerry Hanlon used to say all the time to big guys who came to the camps but were sluggish was if you're 6'5" and can't move your ass, you're just in the way. I don't think UM playing a zone blocking scheme is a negative becuase a lot of the guys you see having success in the pros are usually more of the nimble guys today than they have been in the past. I am not sure if OSU's big road graders got picked up in the draft. As for slot guys, I'll take any 5'8'' guy with quickness, but the one thing they don't really talk about is that these guys also have tiny hands and tiny hands on a reciever is never a good thing. I think I was watching the Notre Dame game and saw Odoms swapping gloves and I was floored by how small his hands were. Right then and there I knew why he drops a lot of balls on the turf...small hands. They measure receivers hands at the draft for a reason. You give me a 5'8'' guy with huge hands and quickness, then I'm cool with them in the slot. Also, little guys can get lost easy especially in zone coverages where you're trying to keep the whole field in front of you; those little guys get lost sometimes.

Magnus

May 4th, 2009 at 2:00 PM ^

I agree with most of what you wrote, but there are plenty of small guys with good hands. I think you're jumping to conclusions when you say Odoms dropped balls because of small hands. He had good hands when it was warm and he dropped a bunch of balls when it got cold. It might be small hands. Or it might be that he's not used to playing in the cold/rain/snow.

Wolv54

May 4th, 2009 at 2:53 PM ^

are probably a bigger factor. Smaller hands make it tougher to catch the ball, but that does not mean a guy with small hands can't have good hands. It just means he probably has to make more of an effort than say someone like Braylon Edwards. If you took Edward's hands and put them in the typical position for catching a ball (thumbs and index fingers touching with the hands outstretched) and put Odoms next to him, who do you think would have an easier time hauling in a bullet pass? As for it being a knock on a guy, no way would I knock any of our guys from last year for having to catch those errant wounded ducks from Threet and Sheridan.

Route66

May 4th, 2009 at 2:06 PM ^

The mean streak is a big deal and not to be underrated. I think it is imperative too, that some of the successful lineman have grown into those positions. Maybe were tight-ends, or specifically d-lineman in high school. They have the quick feet already and then bulk up as the coach sees potential for them on the o-line.

Route66

May 4th, 2009 at 2:07 PM ^

The last part of Brian's post tugged at my heart strings. Being a former small college lineman, he speaks the truth. The part about lining up with the running backs for a 5 yard sprint is so true. The quickness and tough hands is the most crucial aspect of being a successful lineman if you ask me. Girth in the lower body helps, as does strength in the upper body, but if the lineman can put himself in better positions with his feet he will win. Quick(kind of relative)story...I know you guys don't care, but it is May and things are boring around here- We were just out of college and I was helping a buddy landscape as he owns a lawn care company. This was a large bark job so he enlisted many friends and old teamates to help one Saturday. Some of us ol' chums from the team got bored around lunch time and the stories started flying. Then the egos.(strong sense of self, not frozen waffles) By the time the arguments were over, I challenged a friend to a race. "From this pile of bark to that pile of bark." About 25 yds. He was an outside linebacker for our team and was about 235lbs at the time. I was 310lbs and a former guard. We had jeans and our steel toes on but decided it was go time! It was a dead heat. Tie. Now, we all know that LB's are not the fastest guys in the world but I kept up with him for that short distance. I am, of course, biased, but many of you would be amazed and downright frightened at how fast DI lineman are. It truly is scary. When that much mass is moving so quick it is a beautiful yet violent thing. Getting in a scrum with an o-lineman is pretty much like wrestling a Grizzly bear.

mgovictors23

May 5th, 2009 at 8:53 AM ^

Going back to Odoms i think it was a cold weather thing because he looked completey lost in the november games because he is from Pahokee Florida so that was probaly his first ever winter experience