Cincinnati Postgame Presser: Jim Harbaugh Comment Count

Adam Schnepp

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First Evans last week, now Isaac today. How big is it for you guys to gain more depth at the running back position with all the guys you lost from last season?

“I thought Ty had a heck of a game. Career high for him and he keeps ascending, so feel good. Fullbacks are doing a nice job. I think most of our veteran players are playing good and kind of the theme is we’ve got to get experience. We’ve got to get experience playing. It’s guys’ first time playing here in the Big House, first time going through a week of school, and got to be patient. We’re going to coach ‘em up and long road ahead but can’t get experience without playing, so that’s kind of the theme.”

If you could talk about two plays: the first one the 36-yard reception by Zach Gentry that kind of got things going for the offense and then the decision to go for it on fourth-and-eight.

“Yeah, that was a nice job by Zach. Wilt threw a good ball on the crossing route. Yeah, we needed that to flip some field position where we had a couple previous punts, so that was good.

“The decision to go for it on fourth-and-eight, we were around the 33-yard line, would have been a 50-yard, 51-yard field goal. Punting it could have gained you only eight yards, so decided to take the chance there. I think, I believe—who made that catch? Was it Grant? Kekoa.

“There was a lot of good. There was a lot of good and a lot of times where the screen’s going a little fuzzy and we’re not doing our assignments. Then the fumbles, those hurt. And the ball handling. We’ll just keep going. Wins are tough to come by and we’re glad to have this one.”

Started strong in terms of the score and the final score was lopsided but what happened in between to maybe make it closer than expected?

“You saw the game.”

[After THE JUMP: “I’m dead in here. It’s like burnt wood in terms of nervousness and butterflies and emotions that way.”]

I’m not the coach.

“I’ll just let you write whatever you want, Larry.”

[laughs]

“Did you not watch the game?”

Yeah, I did.

“Okay, well, you’re a paid writer.”

Right side of the offensive line: I know last week you mentioned Nolan [Ulizio] was improving. How would you grade out Nolan, the good and the bad. Same with Mike Onwenu. The right side as a whole, how would you assess those guys?

“It was a game where mistakes were made and weren’t multiple in terms of like three or four by one person, but it was one by each. One by Mike; you know, he pulls, when the play’s coming toward him he pulls and we get hit in the backfield on third-and-two. Made it fourth-and-four down on the goal line. Stuff like that. A guy gets a holding penalty not using the technique and blocking the guy he should. There’s the personal foul by Nolan. Quarterback on the ball handling, ball slips out of his hand, et cetera et cetera.

“I could document it and go through it play by play like Larry wants me to do but that’s kind of the cause of it. There’s guys that are taking turns and we’ve got to get into a rhythm. All 11 got to execute and that’s on us as coaches and the players to evaluate what’s causing it and how to get our offense into the rhythm, because we can move the ball. We can move the ball, and we had the feeling coming out of this game that we stopped ourselves on occasion. That’s the challenge for our team.”

Is there any level of frustration or anticipation? In your mind how long does this stuff need to take to be ironed out? Week two, still early in the season, but are you thinking about that, like, ‘Okay, this stuff need to be ironed out now’?

“Well, as I said in the very beginning, very patient. You can’t gain experience playing in games—you can only do it by playing football, so there’s definitely a certain level of patience there. And stubbornness. Call it either way. Some people like to say stubbornness, I like to say patience. We’ll continue on that path striving for perfect, striving for perfection. That’s the goal, execution, and we’ll keep going.”

Going through the roster there’s about a dozen kids from the state of Florida and all those starters from the state of Florida. With Hurricane Irma, was anything addressed with the team or players?

“We all—I have relatives in Florida. We all do. We talked. All you can do is pray about it. And you check and make sure your families are okay and yeah, it’s a challenge. Guys were talking about it and making calls, et cetera, but that’s… you pray for the state of Florida but certain things aren’t in your control.”

Nothing was addressed to those guys prior to the game?

“We had conversations.”

Thank you.

“You’re welcome.”

You made a change at punt returner. It looked like on the sidelines you had a talk with Donovan [Peoples-Jones] at one point about being able to come up and catch the ball and be in control. Was that what that conversation was about, and when you switched to Grant [Perry], why did you switch to Grant?

“Just felt like the decision to not catch the ball was coming too late and was allowing too many of our guys to be around the ball. Going to have to keep coaching that up. Guy’s doing it for the first time. There’s a point where you have to come off blocking your man as you get closer to the returner. That 10 yards distance away and got to be able to find the returner and it’s not easy to do. Trying to block a man, got to find the returner, got to have that awareness and St. Juste at one point was getting blocked into the catch spot and saw that that was one that Donovan needed to—he needed to… he wasn’t going to be able to make a play. He was going to run into his own man, so there’s experience that needs to take place there and felt like we wanted to go with the guy that had a little bit more time on task, a little more experience. It was just that simple. Donovan will be really good but need more experience, and you get a couple thing that go bad and you’re not confident, so that was the decision to change at that point.”

Between games one and two, overall did you see the growth that you wanted to see between week one and week two?

“Well, we grew in experience. Again, there will be a lot of things for each individual player to think about. Just… In a number of ways of playing a football game, there’s things that you can’t experience until you experience ‘em. There’s handling your emotions, handling a week at school for the first time, even that environment, that atmosphere. There’s nerves, there’s butterflies and you get experience on how to handle them. At some point. I mean, it’s like, me, I’m 53, it’s gone dead. I’m dead in here. It’s like burnt wood in terms of nervousness and butterflies and emotions that way. Guys that are doing it for the first time or second time even? It takes some time on task. It takes some experience. We got some more of that today, and that’s a good thing.”

Maybe this falls in that category but Wilton was in here talking about his mechanics and the passes that sailed on him. There were a number of them today [and] there were some last week. To the casual fan it may look like open guys, shouldn’t he make those but enlighten us: when that happens, is there more to it than that?

“I mean, guys—there’s different ways people throw. They’re gonna—you go with the usual buzzwords. I can think of one that sailed: I think it was Donovan coming on the deep crossing route. He had a nice throwing lane. See the lane, see the throw, and make the throw. You’re not going to be perfect. Went 17-of-28, 58% with a couple throwaways. Not bad. Could be better, and we’ll keep striving for that perfection. I don’t know exactly what his mechanics were on that but people throw how they throw. He’s done it enough where he’s going to hit most of them in my mind.”

You mentioned you were, what did you say, charred wood, dead wood inside—

“Yeah, to those emotions of nervousness.”

Have you had to stop and think when you’re reacting to some of these guys about how young they are? In a game, in camp or anything, have you changed the way you coach at all the past couple weeks?

“Yeah, I think about it a lot, Nick. And what you’re asking somebody to do and putting them in a position where they’re confident they really understand it. That’s the ideal position. There’s a lot of it right now. There’s a lot of who’s really got this and you don’t know for sure, but happened some—first, punter, snapper, kicker I think did a nice job today. You don’t know but you remember. You remember. It’s hard to execute. It’s hard to play with a lot of emotions. You’re better off being dead to ‘em.

“But to answer your question, yeah. Think about it, try to anticipate, try to resolve when you can but the other thing in my mind is you can’t dumb it down Barney-style either and just line up in a two tight ends and a balanced line and think that you’re just gonna run off tackle play after play after play when they have five defensive linemen in the game and they’re doing a nice job as the case was today.

“I don’t know. Probably talking too much here but yes, I do think about it. Try to anticipate, try to resolve, and the experience has taught me that they’ve gotta go do it. They’ve gotta go do it and keep moving forward and gaining the experience. I know what these guys are made of and they’re going to get it. I feel very, very confident about that. Did that make any sense?”

It did.

“Thanks for interpreting.” [laughs]

Did you get an explanation from Wilton on the couple fumbles that he had? Was it a miscommunication?

“Uh…no. No miscommunication. He’s taking the other hand off the ball and trying to do it one-handed. I’ve been telling him it’s a matter of time until it slips out of your hand. Today was the day. Today was the day it just slipped right out of his hand. It’s a bad habit. Keep working hard to break him of that but got us today on that.

“The fly sweep, I’ve got to see that one, whether the depth—the snap off-point I thought was too late. Kekoa might have been a little too tight and I’m not so sure that that ball didn’t slip out of Wilton’s hands. I think it was a culmination of three things that went wrong with that play and we’ll get more time on task on it. That was my feelings on both of the plays. Quarterback’s gotta—you’ve got to handle the ball handling. Belt to belt, seat it in there with your eyes.”

Comments

Fezzik

September 10th, 2017 at 3:37 PM ^

If you are correct I feel like these issues should have been resolved by now if fixable.  Speight has 3 years of Harbaugh and is in his 4th year at Michigan.  He also reclassified in high school which makes him an old RS Junior.  My point being is it's getting late early for adjustments in mechanics and techniques.  Think about Tebow's throwing mechanics for example...absolutely butt ugly.  Despite a full college career and I believe 5 NFL seasons under his belt his mechanics were still terrible and arguably never improved. JT Barrett, another guy who's passing ability is just as good now as it was his freshmen year...not good.  Some guys are what they are at certain things.  My personal belief and fear about Speight is exactly that. He is who he is at this point.  A guy who will light up a bad defense from time to time but will always be inconsistent, especially against good defenses.

Sten Carlson

September 10th, 2017 at 3:53 PM ^

Tebow had Jesus on his side who obviously told him having a butt ugly throwing motion was not going to keep him from ascending into the Kingdom of Heaven. But, there's no timetable for being comfortable in ones own skin, is there? Case in point, there are still people out there whose only contribution to an otherwise rational and cogent discussion is to display their DEEP SEATED insecurity by flashing a grammar police badge. You all know to whom I am ALLUDING. It takes all kinds, I suppose. I jest. Wilt looks like a QB thinking his way through a his throws. The silver lining, I suppose, is that he doesn't have to think about all the other -- perhaps more difficult -- aspects of playing QB. It's this fact that gives me hope for Wilt to exhale, let it all go, and just play ball.

Sten Carlson

September 10th, 2017 at 6:00 PM ^

I guess, but we don't know the place from whence Wilt started. Perspective is key here. There are many in here who, probably rightfully, have been questioning why Wilt is even on the roster, let alone starting -- seems like we've got Hoke & Co. to thank for that (relatively) bare cupboard. Maybe they're right, and if we were to be given a candid view of the behind the scenes situation we'd all be shocked at how far Harbaugh has brought Wilt along. That's the "ceiling" that everyone talks about. I don't know. But, one thing I do know for certain is that Harbaugh & Co. are going to strive for perfection, and are going to keep pushing Wilt (and all the QB's) toward that goal. Overcoming performance hurdles is a challenge, especially if (again, my speculation) there is some self-doubt fueling "trying to hard." Similarly, comfort zones need to be identified and worked through. Personally, I find the whole situation fascinating, and fun to watch. I won't say I'm not frustrated at times, but I'm really pulling for Wilt and believe that it's going to "click" for him here soon.

EGD

September 10th, 2017 at 6:22 PM ^

Hey Sten, good to see you back on the board. I've kind of given up on trying to determine whether these early season sludgefart games really mean anything. It's clear in retrospect that Michigan's crappy performances against teams like NTMiami (2014), Akron (2013), UMass (2010) and Northern Illinois (2005) were harbingers of eventual doom, but other times it wound up meaning nothing--like SDSU (2004), Utah (2002), or even the Vanderbilt and (late season) Ball State games in 2006. And even when M has blown the doors off inferior teams, that hasn't necessarily meant all was well either: Bowling Green (2010), EMU (2009), and CMU (2013) were all blowout M victories for ultimately disappointing teams.

Sten Carlson

September 10th, 2017 at 6:35 PM ^

Thanks Dunn! It is tough to determine. Coach also said something telling when he spoke about being the first week of classes. From the outside looking in it might not seem like much, but it's different and change can cause some odd things at times. Yeah, I know lots of the guys took summer classes, and early enrollees have as well, but not when they're "known" with everyone on campus, and after the first game. Nothing overly dramatic, but enough to cause some lack of focus against a lesser opponent. It goes back to my original post -- rhythm. I think the team might have scored on offense, then defense, and then lost focus thinking they'd just roll, and rhythm killing mistakes ensued. Understandable, I suppose, especially after they were foaming at the mouth out of camp when they got to Dallas. I don't sense impending doom at all, I sense a "reality check" moment -- across the team -- where the coaches can point out how a few seemingly minor mistakes can give a hapless team hope and a grip on momentum. How are things?

Glennsta

September 11th, 2017 at 6:20 AM ^

3 fumbles in the first half, with 2 of them lost, and 7 penalties overall is going to make it tough to win against anyone.  There always seems to be at least one game a year where even a very good team (not just ours) is out of synch and gets in trouble because of it.  Good thing it happened against an opponent that couldn't capitalize.

I couldn't see much of the 2nd half (had to follow by radio). Were the freshment receivers getting open?  Dierdorf pointed out before the game that, in the opener, the freshmen weren't often were not running routes and getting into positions correctly.

markusr2007

September 10th, 2017 at 1:54 PM ^

It's the truth. I say this not just because Harbaugh's competence constrasts so starkly against almost 8 consecutive years of incompetent coaching and poor UM team preparation under Carr, RichRod and Hoke.

The man knows when to be calm and patient. This is not his first rodeo.  He has coached far less talented players and found ways to spackle and repair the broken pieces.

A week ago we had Grant Perry hotdogging and spinning balls to the turf and taking penalties.  This week he made the catch, jumped up and ran to the nearest ref and handed him the ball, and then scoring big play touchdowns.  See how that works? Error-Coaching-Correction-Result.

The RT issue will be fixed, swapped out, spackled or Michigan staff will compensate for it by calling plays to minimize it's negative impact.  It happens seldomly, but sometimes lineman do improve over the course of a season and with starts.

Oklahoma beat an Urban Meyer Ohio State team already packed ot the gills with experience and 5 star talent at home in Columbus, and with arguably one of the top two or three DLs in the nation.  OU did it with a talented veteran QB and an average veteran OL (all 5 starters from 2016 returned).

Michigan can beat Ohio State in Ann Arbor this fall. But it will probably not be a decisive win because of the extisting governors and limts at the QB and OL positions.  2018 will likely be a very, very different story for Michigan, however.

 

Sten Carlson

September 10th, 2017 at 2:15 PM ^

Very few teams -- maybe only one in Bama -- can line up and run into a stacked box. Play calling is like chess -- you HAVE to "know the lines" as the term goes. Undoubtedly, Harbaugh & Co. know the lines and set opposing defense up like Grandmaster chess players. But, unlike a chess player, the coach has to hand he plan to the players and they're the ones who have to go out and execute the plan. We all dogged on RR and Hoke for their "the players didn't execute" comments. But, in this case, it's pretty clear that all the QB has to do is make the read, and throw to the open man -- and there's almost always an open man -- or just throw it away. People are up in arms about the OL, but I thought they looked good when Cinci wasn't selling out on the run. LF is no dummy, he knew he couldn't stop the Michigan running attack without selling out, so like most DC's we've faced, he was daring Wilt to beat him with his arm. As I said, if Wilt was at his best the entirety of both games, neither game is even close. Michigan is Michigan's own worst opponent right now -- not surprising. What is a surprise, unfortunately, is that the QB (one of the few returning starters) seems to be the main culprit having accounted for 3 of the teams 4 turnovers. The good news, IMO, is that they're still finding ways to win and have a defense that has already scored three times and forced 4 turnovers.

Fezzik

September 10th, 2017 at 2:52 PM ^

Mostly agree with you. But our pawns are bigger and Stronger than Cincinnati's pawns. And our lone bright spot on offense was Isaac. When this is the case you need to turn chess into checkers, Keep It Simple Stupid, if you will. Just like when Wisconsin beat us by running the ball nearly every single 2nd half snap against us a few years back.

Sten Carlson

September 10th, 2017 at 3:31 PM ^

Stop that rhyming, I mean it! Seriously though, I agree with you for the most part. My main point is that knowing the lines is one thing, but EXECUTING the lines is another. Run until they stack the box, then play-action pass -- worked in the first series like a charm. Then, the biffs started and the rhythm was broken. Then, the opposition says, "well, our only hope is to make their iffy QB beat us ..." and they basically sell out against the run for the rest of the game. If the shaky QB settles down and start to shred them, it's a rout. If not, the inferior side hangs around making it seem like they have a chance. Cinci never really had a chance -- it was only going to be close if Michigan shot itself in the foot ... which it did. If you hang a piece or two to an inferior opponent in the opening of the game it's going to look like they've got a shot to win. But then the mid game kicks in and you assert your dominance, and then by the end game it's clear. In football, by contast, there are a lot more moving part and players who might mess up.

Fezzik

September 10th, 2017 at 3:58 PM ^

I'd give you a +10 if I could on your first line alone.

I think we should all expect every single defense we face to stack the box and dare Speight to beat them.  We will be running the ball into numbers disadvantages all year, and with an Oline that is above average at best right now.  Our Achilles heel is obvious but so is the solution. Find success over the top of the defense.  Penn State was phenomenal with 1 on 1 jump balls last year and not because Mcsorely was dropping dimes.  Speight seems afraid of interceptions so much his deep balls often sail out of bounds and uncatchable.  I say it's time to throw 50/50 jump balls to DPJ and Black in 1 on 1 match ups when the offense goes stale.  The biggest thing is give your WR a chance.  It worked well with Denard and Junior Hemmingway.

Sten Carlson

September 10th, 2017 at 6:15 PM ^

Your point is opening a window (perhaps) into Wilt's mind -- and exemplifies what I'm talking about. Wilt is not a "gunslinger" QB -- characterized by taking lots of chances and slinging it all over the lot. As I said, (maybe) he doubts himself and is trying very (excessively) hard to not make throwing mistakes and to compensate for what his perceived weakness(es) and that's causing the bad footwork/sailing passes. Denard seems unphased by interceptions, and maybe was on the other side of the spectrum -- he was too confident in his arm and thus didn't take enough care of the ball. Everyone is different, and Denard also had the benefit of knowing he could contribute as a ball carrier.

maize-blue

September 10th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^

Well, they proved they could sleepwalk through a game with a lesser opponent and still win. That's about all I took from this game.