Belated Hello: Casey Hughes
This one slipped through the cracks as Ace and I discussed the greatest arthropods in the history of baking: Michigan's picked up a frankly bizarre grad transfer, Casey Hughes. Hughes isn't bizarre. Hughes is probably a nice young man. But the circumstances that would take a starting cornerback for Utah and deposit him on a Michigan roster that returns three starter-quality CBs and Ambry Thomas are hard to fathom.
And it does appear that Hughes was one of Utah's preferred starting CBs when healthy. Opponent blogs usually have a clear—and sometimes jaundiced—eye towards guys who have just left the roster, and this was Block U's take on Hughes's spot:
After playing mostly on special teams to start his career, Hughes, one of the fastest players on the team, earned a starting cornerback role in 2017 following the departures of four starters in the secondary. Hughes, a North Las Vegas, Nev. native, recorded 35 tackles and one pass breakup and had two forced fumbles against the Arizona Wildcats that helped Utah secure that win in Tucson, Ariz.
Injuries limited Hughes to end the 2017 season. He missed the game against the Washington Huskies and had to leave the game against the Colorado Buffaloes due to injury, which also kept him out of the Heart of Dallas Bowl win over the West Virginia Mountaineers. Hughes also would have likely been facing stiff competition for playing time as a senior from Jaylon Johnson and Julian Blackmon, a second-team All-Pac-12 selection and Heart of Dallas Bowl MVP.
Hughes was part of an excellent secondary; Utah finished 14th in pass defense to S&P+ despite a pass rush that ranked 94th nationally. His stats are pretty nondescript, but that's often a good thing with cornerbacks. A lack of PBUs is maybe a concern. Michigan's CBs had some pretty absurd tackle/PBU ratios this year:
- Lavert Hill: 20 tackles, 7 PBUs
- David Long: 17.5 tackles, 6 PBUs
- Brandon Watson: 15.5 tackles, 5 PBUs
- Hughes: 30 tackles, 1 PBU.
Also it does not appear that Pro Football Focus or NFL draftniks had Hughes high on their radar. It's safe to assume that Long and Hill are, or will be, so it's hard to see much playing time open up at the spot Hughes started at last year.
Safety? I'm dubious. Michigan's safety play was okay to good last year and returns both starters and a couple of freshmen who got playing time. For Hughes to get playing time there he'd have to beat those guys out. His best bet might be if Michigan is looking for a slot fade specialist. If he is one, great. Maybe you can see one in here:
But the name that comes most readily to mind is Wayne Lyons.
January 24th, 2018 at 12:41 PM ^
Slot guy Dominator.
January 24th, 2018 at 1:44 PM ^
compete in a nickel back position. What caught my eye in the article, is he was the fastest guy on the team. Nice to add speed and possibly have him returning kicks next year.
January 24th, 2018 at 6:41 PM ^
I saw that too. My one fear with our secondary was that they got beat (only once or twice) on all out sprints, so maybe Don wants speed in case he needs it.
Possible returner isn't something I thought of, but it could make sense also. Better field position and possibly a TD is a good way to jumpstart a slower offense.
January 25th, 2018 at 7:02 AM ^
Free safety is what I see here...getting from point A to point B faster is a good thing.
January 24th, 2018 at 12:42 PM ^
I think that he could replace Josh Metellus. That guy made a ton of mistakes last year and he was hard to watch by the bowl game. But who really knows? Maybe he's Wayne Lyons.
January 24th, 2018 at 12:57 PM ^
I think Metellus was actually good last year. He was only "bad" compared to the rest of an elite defense, and even then wasn't really that far off from the rest of the D. If Hughes does beat out Metellus at Safety, I pray for those poor quarterbacks next year who will either be getting sacked or throwing interceptions every other play.
January 24th, 2018 at 12:59 PM ^
You realize this makes no sense right.
January 24th, 2018 at 1:21 PM ^
What I was trying to say is that if the Secondary is even better than it was this year, opposing quarterbacks are in trouble.
January 24th, 2018 at 1:36 PM ^
Opposing QB's routinely picked on our safeties and Brandon Watson all year while avoiding LaVert Hill and David Long like the plague. There was a reason for that.
The problem with some of the commentary here, and this is not specific to you, is that it has been so long since Michigan last won a championship that people have forgotten what championship talent looks like. I don't even know if Metellus or Kinnel are NFL free agents let alone draft picks.
January 24th, 2018 at 1:52 PM ^
So you're contending that championship teams require NFL talent at every single position? Maybe I'm wrong (I'm not going to take the time to look it up), but I would be shocked if any (non-Alabama) teams had NFL players at every position on even one side of the ball.
January 24th, 2018 at 1:58 PM ^
Yes. List of national championship teams since 2000. Tell me where I'm wrong.
Miami, OSU, LSU, USC, Texas, Florida, LSU, Florida, Bama, Auburn, Bama, Bama, FSU, OSU, Bama, Clemson, Bama.
For reference, the 1997 Michigan national title team had 34 NFL players on it.
January 24th, 2018 at 2:16 PM ^
What is your favorite movie?
January 24th, 2018 at 2:31 PM ^
Everybody dies
January 24th, 2018 at 3:05 PM ^
Woah dude, spoiler alert! sheeeeeeeeeesh
January 26th, 2018 at 12:11 PM ^
January 24th, 2018 at 2:41 PM ^
The Cam Newton Auburn team certainly did not have NFLers at every position. I think maybe 3-4 on defense (and a few of them were undrafted free agent types). On offense it was Newton, and maybe 1 or 2 OL who were drafted late.
January 24th, 2018 at 3:28 PM ^
So 1 team out of 17 that also had one of the greatest college QB's of all time. Seems like great odds.
January 24th, 2018 at 3:39 PM ^
January 24th, 2018 at 4:43 PM ^
1 or 2 players! Gasp!
Not sure how this argument will recover from such small semantics. While we're at it did you know recruiting rankings don't matter, just look at Mike Hart!
January 24th, 2018 at 4:11 PM ^
As blue in dc said, you are basically using the "I'm right unless someone shows me otherwise" approach. You asked to be proven wrong, I did. I took the team that I felt the most confident that they did not have all time NFL talent, looked it up to confirm my thoughts, and answered your question.
I have not looked at other rosters, but I would bet that Auburn is not the only one on this list that didn't have every starter play in the NFL.
January 24th, 2018 at 3:05 PM ^
Winovich - NFL Lock
Mone - non-drafted FA possible
Hurst - NFL Lock
Gary - NFL Lock
Furbush - nope
McCray - Mocking Late Round Draft Pick
Bush Jr. - NFL Lock
Hudson - imo NFL Lock
Hill - NFL Lock
Long - NFL Lock
Mettellus - Definite chance with 2 years left to prove himself into top 3 round draft pick
Kinnel - Definite chance with 1 year left to be drafted
Solomon, Thomas, Luigi Villian, Singleton, Anthony all of the recruiting backgrounds to be top NFL draft picks as well.
January 24th, 2018 at 3:32 PM ^
If Dymonte Thomas isn't a NFL draft pick Kinnel and Metellus sure as heck aren't either. I honestly don't know what this post is trying to prove other than it's confirming what I already said, that to be an elite team you need NFL talent everyhwere. When you have NFL talent like UM did at DL and LB and CB, you have dominant units. When you don't like they did at safety and nickel, you get exposed when you play top level teams. Seems pretty straightforward.
January 24th, 2018 at 4:01 PM ^
There is NFL talent everywhere.
Thomas wasn't a draft pick, but is hanging around the NFL. I'd say that he does have NFL talent. Not bad for a guy who only was the starting safety his Senior year and had spotty playing time the rest of the way. Kinnel accomplished that in his Junior year, Metellus as a Sophomore. I would say both have higher upsides than Thomas.
Woods/JKP were both true freshman, but they could just as easily turn into NFLers as well.
January 24th, 2018 at 10:18 PM ^
Thomas had one year of safety play on tape when he headed to the draft, compared to the 2-3 years Kinnel and Metellus would have by the time the leave. Not entirely apples and apples here.
January 24th, 2018 at 3:36 PM ^
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January 24th, 2018 at 2:03 PM ^
Also, it was both guys 1st year starting. Usually guys improve.
January 24th, 2018 at 2:10 PM ^
January 24th, 2018 at 2:01 PM ^
Ranks
Total Defense FEI #9
Total Defense S&P #10
Passing Defense S&P #3
Passing Yds per game #1
3rd Down Conversion % #1
This group returns every single player in the back 7 except the guy that was probably the #1 liability in pass defense Mccray.
Hmmmm.........
January 24th, 2018 at 2:14 PM ^
January 24th, 2018 at 2:31 PM ^
Most of those stats are opponent adjusted.
South Carolina did not torch them.
Yes they can and will improve. Usually when you return every single player and most of them our underclassmen they improve.
January 24th, 2018 at 2:05 PM ^
I mean that's what he was saying. Basically the main weak link in an otherwise elite defense was the safety coverage, but was still decent. So if that improves, opposing QBs will have nowhere to go with the ball.
January 24th, 2018 at 10:17 PM ^
Was the reason also perhaps that Long and Hill were pretty good and therefore it makes sense to avoid them and attack safeties, who usually in every defense are worse at coverage?
Not saying I think the Safeties are studs, but there can be a reason they get picked on that doesnt just automatically make them suck.
January 25th, 2018 at 9:46 AM ^
January 24th, 2018 at 1:35 PM ^
huh? it's pretty clear what he is trying to say
January 24th, 2018 at 2:24 PM ^
You want to grab a beer sometime? Maybe coffee if you're not a drinker?
January 24th, 2018 at 10:03 PM ^
January 24th, 2018 at 1:29 PM ^
Honestly, Kinnel seemed more up-and-down throughout the year, but both were perfectly serviceable safeties. If Hughes somehow beats out one of them, that would either mean said player noticeably regressed...somehow...or Hughes was demonstrably better. I doubt that, but it would be a positive sign for the defense if that happened.
January 24th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^
Metellus managed to lose his starting spot by the time bowl season rolled around. He did not have a very good year.
January 24th, 2018 at 2:06 PM ^
You do realize he was hurt at the end of the year playing with a significant shoulder injury at a position where you kinda need your shoulders.
Here a kid is sacrificing everything for the team playing at less than 100% and he still gets shit on.
January 24th, 2018 at 2:20 PM ^
How exactly did I shit on him in my post about roster management? I tried to avoid any discussion of his talent or that of the team so I didn't get sucked into a debate about whether our DBs were amazing or terrible.
My point was that bringing in 6 new DBs next year when you return 5 starters and 6 back-ups seems like odd roster management for a team that is looking to rebound. Maybe Hughes is amazing as a person or player and will be a great addition. My point was that all roster spots are precious and there are probably a ton of guys who want them. It is up to the coaches to determine how to use those spots.
I'm optimistic that the defensive coaches have a great eye for talent and I'm happy to have him aboard....I just found it odd that Harbaugh would use so many roster spots on DBs this off-season instead of targeting other positions.
January 24th, 2018 at 7:39 PM ^
January 25th, 2018 at 7:54 AM ^
Nobody is impugning his character, but unfortunately he could not get it done at a high enough level. That's just reality sometimes, and for some reason this board can only apply that to quarterback play.
January 24th, 2018 at 12:59 PM ^
Metellus was no all-conference performer, but in a hyper-aggressive defense that frequently puts it's safeties on island in coverage, he was solid in most games. What true sophomore (and first year starter) doesn't make a handful of contain-related mental mistakes? His upside far exceeds that of a good-not-great Pac-12 corner moving over to safety would be.
Remember the last time we brought in a grad transfer DB from the Pac-12? Wayne Lyons came in (with more fanfare) and expectations to win a starting job or at least be a key reserve but ended up a fringe contributor at best. For depth reasons, we can take all the competent guys we can get, and you can't teach experience so why hate this as a take if you don't know exactly where the roster numbers sit like the coaches do.
January 24th, 2018 at 1:42 PM ^
I think every guy Lyons tried to beat out is currently in the NFL. I want to say he only started half the season for Stanford before he came over, but yes he had a lot of buzz.
Hughes is a great replace for Watson and a guy I think has a real shot to start at safety.
January 24th, 2018 at 12:45 PM ^
Impressive stat line agaist Arizona
January 24th, 2018 at 12:48 PM ^
Guy looks like he can play. Good tackler in space, hits hard, makes plays. Great for solid depth alone.
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